okay, so I know why the toilet is held down with a t-bolt, but why do they come with t-washers? the washer doesn’t have to fit into the flange?
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It's used to hold the bolts in place when you set the toilet.
sorry, I still don't get it, the t washer goes in the flange? that's what the head of the t bolt is for, if the washer goes on top of the flange and were tight fitting .. but even then a round one would do the same ..
They're cheaper. Think of all the metal they save when they make 10 million washers.
What's a t-washer?
If you mean this:
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then, there's no good reason I can think of other than maybe it somehow simplifies the manufacturing process or saves metal.
I've noticed that sometimes the hole in the toilet is right next to the curve where the body starts. A full round washer will sit on the curved surface, whereas the clipped washer will sit flat.
I vote for that!!
I'll vote with you.
Saves some metal...... big $$ in the long run.
JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
The clipped washers are intended to go just under the nut, on top of the ceramic. Often there's a depression in the ceramic (so the bolt & nut can be hidden from view) and this depression is often not round but oblong. A round washer would not fit in some cases.
A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It's a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity. --Jimmy Carter
ah hah! so that's it, thanks
whats a T- washer? no such thing comes with toilet bolts around here.
whats a T- washer?
looks like the shouldered half of a grommet...
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Whatsa dog washer look like?
All wet and exhausted. And the dog is still dry.
A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It's a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity. --Jimmy Carter
before or after the deed???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
After of course. I'm usually wetter than the dogs.
yup...
not to mention the room(s)...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
check this out...
dog washers....
or would that be derg wershers... or dog warshers????
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
I could use one of those.
I think the one for cats is easier to use...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Why would you wash a cat?
entertainment...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Wet cats are funny, but dangerous.
part of the thrill...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Make me a video next time you wash one. Please?
okay...
I'll wash....
you hold the camera...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Plan A....
Cat Bathing As A Martial Art
A. Know that although the cat has the advantage of quickness and lack of concern for human life, you have the advantage of strength.
Capitalize on that advantage by selecting the battlefield. Don't try to bathe him in an open area where he can force you to chase him. Pick a very small bathroom.
If your bathroom is more than four feet square, I recommend that you get in the tub with the cat and close the sliding -glass doors as if you were about to take a shower. (A simple shower curtain will not do. A berserk cat can shred a three-ply rubber shower curtain quicker than a politician can shift positions.)
B. Know that a cat has claws and will not hesitate to remove all the skin from your body. Your advantage here is that you are smart and know how to dress to protect yourself.
I recommend canvas overalls tucked into high-top construction boots, a pair of steel-mesh gloves, an army helmet, a hockey face-mask, and a long-sleeved flak jacket.
C. Use the element of surprise. Pick up your cat nonchalantly, as if to simply carry him to his supper dish. (Cats will not usually notice your strange attire. They have little or no interest in fashion as a rule.)
D. Once you are inside the bathroom, speed is essential to survival. In a single liquid motion, shut the bathroom door, step into the tub enclosure, slide the glass door shut, dip the cat in the water and squirt him with shampoo.
You have begun one of the wildest 45 seconds of your life.
E. Cats have no handles. Add the fact that he now has soapy fur, and the problem is radically compounded.
Do not expect to hold on to him for more than two or three seconds at a time. When you have him, however, you must remember to give him another squirt of shampoo and rub like crazy.
He'll then spring free and fall back into the water, thereby rinsing himself off. (The national record for cats is three latherings, so don't expect too much.)
F. Next, the cat must be dried. Novice cat bathers always assume this part will be the most difficult, for humans generally are worn out at this point and the cat is just getting really determined.
In fact, the drying is simple compared with what you have just been through.
That's because by now the cat is semi-permanently affixed to your right leg.
You simply pop the drain plug with your foot, reach for your towel and wait. (Occasionally, however, the cat will end up clinging to the top of your army helmet. If this happens, the best thing you can do is to shake him loose and to encourage him toward your leg.) After all the water is drained from the tub, it is a simple matter to just reach down and dry the cat.
In a few days the cat will relax enough to be removed from your leg. He will usually have nothing to say for about three weeks and will spend a lot of time sitting with his back to you.
He might even become psychoceramic and develop the fixed stare of a plaster figurine.
You will be tempted to assume he is angry.
This isn't usually the case.
As a rule he is simply plotting ways to get through your defenses and injure you for life the next time you decide to give him a bath.
But at least now he smells a lot better.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
I'd have chain maille over leather, kevlar gloves, and full head armor on before manually washing a cat.
use the toilet system then...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Now I know how you guys rack up so many posts
climb on...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Did you ever get a headache? <G>
never one that couldn't be cured...
or fixed...
or delt with...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Edited 10/28/2009 10:57 pm by IMERC
Pretty good description of the process!
JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
cat washing....
One summer, before Frontline was invented, our two cats got infested with fleas...you would walk past them and feel fleas jumping onto your legs.
Tried collars .... no change.
Called vet, vet said that fleas were really bad this summer and he would have to "dip" them.
Took both cats to vet one Saturday morning, he dipped them while we did some errands.
Took cats home - they were both mad at us and grooming non-stop........"How disgusting, I am covered in something. What IS this chit all over me?"
After about an hour, one cat starts foaming at the mouth.
Call vet, "She's having a reaction to the flea dip, you will have to wash it off."
Us, "Like with water?" Vet, "Yes."
This cat hated water so much, when she walked in grass which was wet with dew, she would lift and shake each paw individually after each step.
We ended up giving her a bath with warm water only, in a large cooler on the back deck. The lid was handy to keep her captive.......it was not pretty.
She quit foaming at the mouth but ignored us for days afterward.
My opinion--Frontline good, cat washing bad.
Jim
Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
Yeah, they're especially amusing in a front loader with a glass window.
A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It's a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity. --Jimmy Carter
I like thje tiolet method a lot better...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
I don't know what you are calling a T-washer, but if you are talking about the rounded off one that comes with the toilet they are used to support the clips for the toilet caps.
They are made that way so that when you drop one it won't roll down the drain, they just slide a little. :)