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Durorock installation

runnerguy | Posted in General Discussion on October 4, 2007 07:58am

Please enlighten me.

In a shower, does the drywall guy install the durorock or does the tile guy install it?

Thanks.

Runnerguy

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  1. JTC1 | Oct 04, 2007 08:19pm | #1

    Around here it is usually the tile guy -- he is the one with the vested interest in having it be properly fastened and in the desired location.

    "If ya' want it done right - do it yourself." Seems to be the philosophy of the better tile installers.

    Jim

    Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

  2. Shep | Oct 04, 2007 09:40pm | #2

    I've seen both.

    I've even seen the rocker install it, and the tile guy tape and mud the joints.

    1. Piffin | Oct 04, 2007 10:04pm | #3

      and for another POV, I install the boards, just before the SR guys show up to hang, then let them do the mud and tape 

       

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        gdcarpenter | Oct 04, 2007 11:57pm | #4

        I'm all over installing the durock BEFORE the sheet rock folks come a truckin in. In my companies case we were using 'Denshield' and had the sheet rock installers install it, figured it was a no brainer because the entire bathroom was to be tiled so the entire bathroom was to be 'denshielded'Come back and throughout the bathroom, on the 'denshield' were the factory stamped letters glaring at you, "TILE OTHER SIDE"Let's not confuse the issue with facts!

        1. ruffmike | Oct 05, 2007 04:45am | #7

          I work for a large commercial drywall co.

          Today we were doing some "prerocking" about 25 sheets in an electrical room that is not dried in. The owner is paying extra to use dens-armor (tapable denseglass), I lined out the rockers and came back after ten minutes. They had 4 sheets up..... backwards.                            Mike

              Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.

          1. seeyou | Oct 05, 2007 06:04am | #9

            They had 4 sheets up..... backwards.

            Off topic a little, but last summer I got called to a job to replace some copper gutters and the carpenters (who were doing their 1st fiber cement job) were liking it, but complaining about having to remove the UPC stickers from each piece. I walked around the corner to see what they were talking about and they'd finished 3 sides of an 8000 sq ft house and had all the F/C up backwards. http://grantlogan.net/

             

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      2. Shep | Oct 05, 2007 12:41am | #5

        Think we've answered to OPs question yet?

        Well, this is another example of more than one way to do something<G>

        This one tile guy, who wanted to mud and tape himself, told my that he'd been on several jobs where the rockers used regular SR mud and tape for the CMUs, and would rather do it himself right the first time.

        Can't say I blame him.

        1. Piffin | Oct 06, 2007 03:09am | #12

          I can understand that problem. My rockers use Durock firstfill and tape anyways 

           

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          1. hvtrimguy | Oct 06, 2007 04:51am | #13

            what's durock firstfill?"it aint the work I mind,
            It's the feeling of falling further behind."Bozini Latinihttp://www.ingrainedwoodworking.com

          2. Piffin | Oct 06, 2007 08:42pm | #14

            that would be "For the first fill" which is the fill coat that they bed tape into and coat over which is what the cement sheets need.Then whether they use bucket mud or keep going with setting compound depends a lot on the size of the job and the humidity. A small job where they want to get it done and gone means higher chance they use setting type because it kicks quicker. Bucket mud in high humidity can take three days to be ready for coat over. 

             

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          3. hvtrimguy | Oct 07, 2007 04:47am | #15

            I guess what confused me was that I thought you were referring to a product as opposed to a step in a process. I usually tape my floor seams of durock with mesh tape and thinset. I've never used joint compound on the seams in a shower area, only thinset and mesh tape. maybe i'm off base on this.thanks for the info"it aint the work I mind,
            It's the feeling of falling further behind."Bozini Latinihttp://www.ingrainedwoodworking.com

          4. Piffin | Oct 07, 2007 03:44pm | #16

            Your's is probably the better, but I tend to get the thinset too thick that way. The durok is easier to maintain a flat surface 

             

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    ottcarpentry | Oct 05, 2007 04:43am | #6

    When I install tile, I install the tile backer.

    Of course, I usually do the sheetrocking myself as well.

    Ott

  4. CAGIV | Oct 05, 2007 04:59am | #8

    usually our tile guys prefer to hang it.

    I prefer to have it hung by the S/R so it can be taped in while they're there, something the tile guys don't want to do. 

    Or if it's like the last job, I tell the S/R not to put it up but leave me this amount of space, he puts drywall up anyway, then I get a phone call from the tile company asking if I'd like them to remove or will I send someone by?  

    Team Logo



    Edited 10/4/2007 10:01 pm ET by CAGIV

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    JeffBuck | Oct 05, 2007 06:18am | #10

    as a sometimes tile sub ...

     

    I'm usually brought in to "set tile".

    so usually ... the backer has already been hung.

     

    on my own remodels ... and remodels where I'm bidding more as a "remodeler / kitchen and or bath guy" ... I end up squaring the framing and working from there.

    so even in my own work life ... it's 50-50.

     

    seeing as hos most GC's don't wanna pay ...  and their "tile budget" is about half what it should be ....I like coming in and just getting to work setting tile.

    Jeff

        Buck Construction

     Artistry In Carpentry

         Pittsburgh Pa

  6. runnerguy | Oct 05, 2007 12:38pm | #11

    Thanks guys for all the help as well as the funny stories (at least funny now after the fact).

    I'll probably get the tile guy to do it so everything is under his work if there's a problem later.

    Runnerguy

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