Exterior W/P boxes on stucco – ways
W/P boxes on stucco
I need to mount a number of WP boxes on the exterior stucco walls of this remodel. I really hate to chop holes in the stucco. Can create problems later. Our firm does a nice business dealing with these problems. Seen them.
I would like to surface mount a deep exterior WP box, then go into the stud bay with a nipple (bushing at both ends, of course) and feed the Romex through that. Easier to waterproof a pipe penetration vs a whole box.
Is this NEC-Naughty?
Wiring past the attic access hatch…
Anyone have the NEC chaper and verse on wiring past the attic hatch?
It’s not an attic, more like a large soffit with a hatch for a midget.
HVAC will be in there and I need to run circuits through there. Past the hatch. Be happy to hang a piece of 3″d. P40, 80 by way of the hatch and run romex in that – or build a mini wiring chase covered in ply X’ left and right of the hatch. Or? What works?
The ToolBear
“Never met a man who couldn’t teach me something.” Anon.
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I know nothing about stucco, but look at the some of the items in these two enteries. They have a number of interesting products.
http://www.aifittings.com/arliprod5_b.htm
http://www.aifittings.com/arliprod6.htm
"334.23 In Accessible Attics
The installation of cable (NM) in accessible attics or roof spaces shall also comply with 320.23."
"320.23 In Accessible Attics
Type AC cables in accessible attics or roof spaces shall be installed as specified in
320.23(A) and (B).
(A) Where Run Across the Top of Floor Joists Where run across the top of floor joists,
or within 2.1 m (7 ft) of floor or floor joists across the face of rafters or studding, in attics
and roof spaces that are accessible, the cable shall be protected by substantial guard strips
that are at least as high as the cable. Where this space is not accessible by permanent
stairs or ladders, protection shall only be required within 1.8 m (6 ft) of the nearest edge
of the scuttle hole or attic entrance.
In accessible attics, Type AC cable installed across the top of floor joists or within 7 ft
of the floor or floor joists across the face of rafters or studs must be protected by guard
strips. Where the attic is not accessible by a permanent ladder or stairs, guard strips are
required only within 6 ft of the scuttle hole or opening.
(B) Cable Installed Parallel to Framing Members Where the cable is installed parallel
to the sides of rafters, studs, or floor joists, neither guard strips nor running boards shall
be required, and the installation shall also comply with 300.4(D)."
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
I'm doing a stucco addition now, any idea where to get those AI stucco-flange boxes?
Contract the local rep and see who handles them.http://www.aifittings.com/loc_1.htm.
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
These seem to be the same boxes under a different name. http://www.demandproducts.com/dribox.html
Interesting.Arlington also has a product called Dri-Box, but it type of cover.http://www.aifittings.com/whnew55.htmMy guess is that Demand is a "supplier" to the stucco, EFS, SIP, and ICF builders. As such I don't know how much they make, if any, and what they are distributors on.It might be that Demand came up with the need and idea for the box and then went to Arlington to make.Or they might just have added Arlington's to their catalog.Or they might have seen the other Arlington InBoxes and then worked with them to modify the design for use with stucco and foam..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Thanks for the data.
I had planned to mount Stacketts on 1x4 furring for the ceiling crossings - something of a cable freeway leading to my trans dining room soffit.
I can do something serious in guard strips 6' L, R of hatch. Wonder how a wood channel "raceway" would do. The ToolBear
"Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.
Why not ask your electrican?
As for the furnace issue, there are pretty specific hatch sizes and working room dimentions that we have to follow unless it's existing, but regardless, if it needs to pass an inspection because of an upgrade chances are all elements of the install will have to be brought up to code.
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