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   Mark_Herrera | Oct 14, 2000 01:59am | #1

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   Paul,
   Just came across your message and about to begin siding with engineered siding. Can you be more specific as to the product. Stock number? Catalog description. What ever you know. I have heard of a class action brought against a manufacturer, however, I forget which one. I believe they where trying to direct the blame towards contractors whom did not follow installation procedures to the letter. I want to know more from who ever is out there.

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   Mad_Dog | Oct 16, 2000 07:44pm | #2

   *Yes, I have heard of the class action suits with several siding manufacturers, but I was told that the deadline for filing has passed, so it is too late to get in on it now. Anyone have specifics? I'd like to get in on the ABTCO siding lawsuit, so I can replace this garbage.MD

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   Bob_Walker | Oct 16, 2000 08:05pm | #3

   *Just do a web search on "siding class action" Google gave me hundreds of hits, at least 3 on the first page lead right to the class actions against various manufacturers.

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   Matt_G. | Oct 17, 2000 02:04am | #4

   *If I'm not mistaken, when Paul said "press board lap siding" I assume that he is referring to the material that is similar to masonite?If that is the case, this is old news - as in 5 years +. i Several manufacturers and involved. I'm not trying to minimize the news, just saying that it does not involve any of the newer products. The thing that many people just don't understand about the masonite type sidings is that it is i essentialthat a good coat of paint be kept on the siding to prevent water intrusion. If it's exposed to excessive moisture, it fails - and more quickly than traditional wood siding.

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   Bob_Walker | Oct 17, 2000 09:20am | #5

   *In addition to Matt's comments:LP now requires the nailing to be under the lap, and they are advising/recommending repaiting 3 years after installation. They are now saying that the "deck of cards" splitting on the butt ends is "normal" on the new, third formulation of the stuff.Of course, the bozos didn't change their molds, so the new improved stuff looks just like the old crud after installation, "LP knot" and all!?!The other major problem with this stuff is overdriving the nails. I see overdriven nails most of the time (say 90-95% of the time, although I haven't run the numbers.) This causes water entry around the nails. I guess siders can't don't readBob

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   Frank_DuVal | Oct 18, 2000 01:08am | #6

   *I was just looking at a smart kitchen artical in the wife's new Better Homes & Gardens and saw an ad:" If you own or owned a home or structure with Wereyhaeuser hardboard siding, a proposed class action settlement may affect your rights."There was a web site listed: http://www.weyerclaims.comI do not have a clue who these people are, just a coincidence that I had the artical open when reading this thread. In our lawyer inspired society, people are always looking to blame others.Frank DuVal

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   Mad_Dog | Oct 18, 2000 11:33am | #7

   *You're right Frank, but in this case, lawyers may do some good. A lot of people got ripped off with an extremely bad product. No way should this siding look as bad as it does after this short of time on the house.

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   Bob_Walker | Oct 18, 2000 03:07pm | #8

   *MDI find it tough to say how much is the product and how much the installation and maintenace.Almost all of the pressboard siding has been improperly installed and often shows signs of neglected maintenance/painting.In either case, the end result is the same: a lot of "injured" homeowners.Bob

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   Mad_Dog | Oct 18, 2000 04:35pm | #9

   *Bob,In the case of the junk on my house (made by Abtco), it is all bad in areas on the north side. South side is bad only on the bottoms, where it was installed within a foot of grade level.So, if this stuff doesn't dry off, it rots. I don't think the average homeowner who bought this stuff would like to think he/she has to wipe the house dry every morning and after every rain, right?

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   Dennis_Loeffler | Oct 18, 2000 06:26pm | #10

   *My La Crosse house had masonite siding on it for 35 years with absolutely no problems. I know as I took it off to replace it with genuine vinyl. It was all back primed, and nailed on the studs with galvanized, screw shanked nails driven flush and not not blind nailed. I only replaced it because of a total window replacement and my desire not to have to paint. Dennis

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   George_Lentulo | Oct 19, 2000 02:35am | #11

   *Dennis,Hey, there ya go ...>>It was all back primed<<Whenever it possibly makes (financial) sense, that's the ticket.George Lentulo

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   Bob_Walker | Oct 19, 2000 10:38am | #12

   *FWIW, the first LP "re-engineering" of their siding involved factory back-priming, but that solution got changed 2 years later. I don't know why, but ....I do suspect, though, that backpriming could help. I've seen idnetial, side-by-side houses with pressboard, one of which has major problems the other being ok. I don't know if it's maintenance or perhaps differences in water vapor penetration through the envelope.MD: > Right - how many of 'em use their shower squeegees?Bob

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   Paul_Crw_construction | Oct 19, 2000 10:38am | #13

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   I have a customer who has Georgia pacific press board lap siding on their house that is going bad in a major way. I have herd that there is a class action law suit against I I has anyone herd of it? How do they get into it?