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   john7g | Mar 16, 2009 05:28pm | #1

   The IRC and the IBC 2006 allow gun nails.  Your local adoptions of the codes or amendments may ban them.  None that I've seen calls for extra gun nails but I've not seen it all. 

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   habilis | Mar 17, 2009 03:46am | #6

   There is a code specifying a round head and not clipped, I believe.

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   john7g | Mar 17, 2009 04:07am | #7

   I've heard that but not seen it any code that I've seen so far, not that I've seen it all. 

   Kind of odd that the IRC 2006 (unedited, unaltered for local situations) will tolerate staples and ban clipped heads.  I do believe there are regions that ban them but not as it written in the IRC as I've seen.  Somebody care to point code ref to show the error in my ways?

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   theslateman | Mar 16, 2009 06:38pm | #2

   I like to leave mine in a 5 gallon pail to rust up some so they have a better resistance to pull out.

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   gfretwell | Mar 16, 2009 07:05pm | #3

   It may just be anecdotal but I think gun nails are harder to pull out than hammer driven nails. My suspicion is you get less wood fiber damage with a nail that goes in with one quick shot instead of several hits with a hammer, that may not be exactly straight.

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   theslateman | Mar 16, 2009 07:19pm | #4

   My comment pertained to greasing up hand nails from the post I responded to.

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   jagwah | Mar 17, 2009 02:39am | #5

   Ya Dad didn't care about pull out. He just wanted them to go in fast since they were paid by the foot for the homes they framed.

   I bet I could pull any one of those nails out with a fork. This way if a tornado comes by they'll be no debri in the yard. 

    

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   stevent1 | Mar 17, 2009 04:24am | #8

   ? A fork?  View Image

   I'll take a hand drive job over a gun job any day. Most higher end jobs here (GA) are all hand driven. Production tract, limeted life, disposable homes are gunned.

   Ask Larry Haun about coating nails. He also coated his own.

   http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/how-to/articles/reflecting-on-one-carpenters-life.aspx?

   Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood

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   jagwah | Mar 17, 2009 06:46am | #10

   I had to explain to them that most nails

   in a framed wall hold in shear and not in tension. Larry

   My point,  tension was not there better strength.  

    

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   frammer52 | Mar 17, 2009 06:11pm | #11

   <<<I'll take a hand drive job over a gun job any day. Most higher end jobs here (GA) are all hand driven>>>

    

   You have been brainwashed.  We have framed all houses for years with gun nails.  In fact we use more nails when we shoot with guns than whan we hand nailed.

   I suggest you have been lead down this path by a contractor, that is trying to make himself different. 

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   stevent1 | Mar 17, 2009 08:15pm | #13

   I aggree with nailguns. Have been using air for over 25 years. I was saying that some high end builders here want the framing and sheathing hand driven. Most sheathing is overdriven using guns. They have no problem with nail guns for the cornice.I use a 15g and 16g for trim. Also my pinner.Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood

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   frammer52 | Mar 17, 2009 09:02pm | #14

   Most sheathing is overdriven using guns. >>>

    

   The problem isn't the guns, it is the fools that overdrive them.  Why not staple the sheet goods?

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   JTC1 | Mar 17, 2009 07:09pm | #12

   >> I think gun nails are harder to pull out than hammer driven nails. My suspicion is you get less wood fiber damage with a nail that goes in with one quick shot....<<

   I think you are right but that the reason is the heat actuated cement on the gun nails.

   Jim Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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   john7g | Mar 17, 2009 04:26am | #9

   so why'd you delete your original question? 

   that's not exactly cool to do. if you're going to post a question, share it with everyone and leave it stand or don't ask/post the question.