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PL Premium or Liquid Nails for Construction is what i have used.
Forrest
And a bottle of gravity.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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ROFLMAO!!
"It is what it is."
PL premium or PL400 as a second choice...
after those two there just isn't anything else...
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PL premium will weld it down to the point that either the crete or the wood will fail before the glue joint does.
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Just think of all the miracles we could have performed if we had PL Premium in the old days!
Some of the buildings I built might actually still be together.
Now if I can just get the darn stuff out of my beard...Grunt, ugh!
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I'm going to guess that PL Prem is also the best choice for securing 3/4 AdvanTech ply to the pt.
Skippy
Absolutely!IMO, PL Premium has three major advantages over other construction adhesives.One is that it has a stronger bond.two is that it is a moist-cure polyurethene, so moisture in the lumber or concrete helps it cure instead of interfering with the bond.Three is that it expands slightly to fill voids. This in combination with the first means that I use about 60% as much as I do of PL 400 for some jobs like subfloor to joists or sleepers
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got pl premium off my truck seat using " goof off" and a fine wire brush
it had been on for a couple of years and the truck was a lease thus the need to get it off
Thanks-I'm going with the PL Prem for all my applications from now on!One other question- PL markets a product for use with rigid foam insulation- PL200 or 300 can't remember. Should I stay away from using the PL Prem for attaching foam board to AdvanTech? Thanks
Skippy
the PL400 and premium will disolve the foam board...
use the labled PL for the foam board...
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You already have your answer about the PL premium and I also really like it. I am just going to add this tip since others have alluded to the expanding capabilities of this adhesive.
Mechanically fasten, or use considerable weight to hold down whatever you are attaching with PL prem. Otherwise, the adhesive will expand and move the part you meant to secure.
I had glued down some rail caps on a project and didn't want to have any fasteners exposed, so I glued it. When I came back the next day I had a nice gap the two parts. It does take a while to fully cure, so I was able to remove and correct the problem, but it was a PITA.
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See? That's why I said he also needed a bottle of gravity. (G)Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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i think they sell that next to the board stretchers, skyhooks, and the updoc. ;)You cannot convey tone in an email.
PL 300 is for foam. The solvents in all the others will disolve the foam. If you are doing more than a sheet or two, you are better off getting a gun and using spray foam for glue, cost wise.
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Like everyone else, my vote is for PL Premium.
But you are gonna Tapcon them down so they'll stay on layout while the glue dries.
Right...?
PS ya don't need PT but I ain't gonna fight that flame war again. Just sayin'....
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I don't bother with fasteners if I have overnight time span. Just weight a plate down in the glue with bags of stuff, toolboxes, or whatever
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Yeah, but I've seen plates slide on wet PL even when weighted, usually when somebody forgets to put the lid back on the can of gravity. Can be embarrassing in the morning.
I prefer to have 'em pinned in place somehow. For plates, a couple of Ramsets every few feet will do it right quick.
But this guy is laying sleepers for a whole floor. Dunno if they're on the flat or on the edge, but I'd definitely want to screw them down. If those sleepers drift off layout, or if they rise on the glue as it expands and hardens, he's not gonna be a happy camper.
Dinosaur
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Thanks for all the advice. I planned on a ramset shot every 4' or so to secure the sleeper while the PL prem cures.
Skippy
You might be better off with Remington pins instead of Ramsets. IIRC, the Ramsets have a pin-type head over a thrust washer, and often wind up sitting proud of the surface (which could be a PITA when you go to lay the subfloor over them).
Remingtons are headed like a standard framing nail and sink in like a nailgun shot if you use the right length pin.
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Whatever you use ... clean the concrete REALLY well first. personal opinion ... little experience, but seems to me not the best glue in the world will stick to the classic dusty concrete you might find in your basement. I had to do a few in my new house so I took a narrow, handled wire brush and leaned on it w/ the palm of one hand while stroking w/ the other to clean any concrete areas I needed a glue down on. Then I used liquid nails generously. Don't know if it is/was right. So far so good.