This guy made it pretty easy but I still hate putting a guy with a family out.
Guy started Mon. Was late Tues because “His truck was broken into” missed three hours next day so he could “get his truck fixed” and late yesterday because “his power went out”
Now, he offered to let me see the police report, but could never produce it, was never a record of it in the paper and a friendly police contact couldn’t find anything.
Then today I had another guy as me, why I did I tell this other guys wife to “Get the F out of the shop” last night when I never met the women.
So it seems he had a chronic lying problem. Because I never met his wife nor would tell anyone to “get the F out of the shop” with out a better reason then they are there.
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What else should you do.
Welcome to management Neil.
It's not all goodtimes and deadlines .
A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
......"but I still hate putting a guy with a family out."
You didn't. He put himself out.
Be thankful that he's gone so you can get on with the things that you do have some control over.
You can't "save" guys like that. They have to save themselves. It's the same for all of us each day. We're all responsible for ourselves and our own behavior.
You can provide an initial opportunity for work if you like, but if they won't take it and honor it.........it's simply not your problem.......nor can you afford to have them around. And keeping him around wouldn't be fair to the other guys/gals on the crew who do give their best.
Women have NO place in a shop.....you did the right thing in telling her to get the F*** out.
kidding....
Women have NO place in a shop
Just got back from a trip and scanned BT - are you ever going to hear some remarks on that comment!!!!!!
PS: My grand-daughter would comment if she looked at this site. <G>
Edited 8/11/2007 12:53 am ET by junkhound
this should get better...
or would that be worse...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Depends on how you look at it. Better for the readers sure to tune in. Worse for the poster of such a remark!
I'm gathering my thoughts now!
Hold on though, the ride's about to start I'm sure!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
ut-oh...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
YO ADRIAN! (she sez in her best stallone voice...) Get the flock outta my shop!
and take your pansy-azz CFMPs with ya.
harrumph!
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
Stir that pot a little why don't you?
I'm betting that several of us women could remove you from a shop!
This forum is for adults only by the way! So take your toys and go home!
Kidding!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
I woulnt want to be here when Splintie gets here. Between you Ladyfire and her It wont be a pretty site. (pun not misspelled)
And I will be too busy to pick up the pieces.
Edited 8/11/2007 1:34 am by bambam
Well with a name like "Adrian" - who knows if it's actually a dude or a gal with a lot of self-loathing (saying she don't belong in no shop...HUH!)
;-)
I mean - look at this:
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Kinda hard to tell much...
and BTW - what's with you and being tired all the time? You not taking your vitamins or you just ensuring you don't have to wash LF's truck this week either?
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
Naw, Ladyfire's just working me too hard.
This mules been pulling a middle buster plow in the clay all week.
Hope we get a good crop though.
Don't listen to him! Remember, he carries a wooden club and wears a dress!
We have both been busy this week. TGIF!!!!! and the weekend!
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
best wishes on the crop...
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
best wishes on the crop...
Thanks I think it will be.
Long as HO pays me LOL
Well with a name like "Adrian"
Who knows I just did an estimate for a girl named Johnny.
what's that song?
"my name is SUE...how do you do!?!?"
oh crap
now I got an ear worm...
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
now I got an ear worm...
That's easily fixed..........................
Don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy now!
That help?My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
oh THANKS
thanks to you...I just did a roto beer rooting of my nostrils!
be a dang shame to waste a good ale that way
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
Welcome. Anytime!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
I think a better solution would be for us to open a competing business next door, painted fire-engine red, with Ladyfire answering the phone in her southern drawl and luring people into our parlor, where Shredder's oatmeal cookies and organizational skills can clinch the sale and keep all the balls in the air. They hand me lists of things to make and i make them, using a bevy of coeds working on their master's degrees in Fine Arts for crew. There is a pool for a refreshing mid-day plunge, and a sauna for the wintertime, including rolling in the snow. Adrian ends up selling all his nice tools to us for pennies on the dollar when he goes out of business, but we have pangs of tender womanly remorse for what we've done to such a nice chap, so we'd take pity and hire him on to do cold calls. On commission.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!
I knew your comeback would be good, but this is far better than I expected!!!!!!!!!
Count me in as long as I don't have to wear a bikini under my turnout gear!!!!!!!!!!!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
SPLINTIE!
Welcome to the party!
(I like your biz plan...!)
LOL!
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
Thats too cold.
OK, not really I was LMAO. If yall do remind me to move to another town. (as long as I can come and see LF)
I used to have an all girl crew + me. It was one of the best crews I've ever had.
And we werent doing wallpaper either. We were doing whole house remodels.
Good attutde, bambam. You can be our pool boy.
Fine, but I will not wear a speedo.
He!! yeah! I love that idea. And a mighty fine one he would be!
UUUMMMM Thoughts and ideas!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
BTW, what benefits are yall offering?
Somehow, I can't see you handling fire, splinters and shredders simultaneously...
But don't feel bad.
I don't think there's a dude alive that could!
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
Not to knock my DH, but I agree with you! Too much women for any dude!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
fire, splinters and shredders simultaneously
Your probably right there.
With the week I've had just one would be taxing.
But what a way to go.
always leave 'em smilin'
;-)
G'nite George (and with your DW here tonite - mays well say "g'nite Gracie!" too while I'm at it!)
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
5-10, time off for good behavior.
oh yeah !
Pool boy in a thong?
Only dead fish swim with the stream. Author Unknown
UUUUUHHHHHHUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
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Caught that. Thanks.
what Hootowl said
Only dead fish swim with the stream.
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If he'll lie like that he'll also steal. Be a little more careful at locking things up for the next few weeks.
Already had that thought.
This thread just made me think about something, I was working union and got laid off on Christmas eve, I was pretty sore about it for years, Then i just remembered when i hired on that job i got real sick one day after i started, I was off for one week yet that same super kept me and my spot till i came back, He had no reason to he could have just called the hall and got someone else, Funny how i just remembered what i wanted to, This has nothing to do with you firing this guy by the way
If the guy's stories would have checked out, would have been no problem.
To be honest I didn't even think to ask for the police report, then he couldn't produce it, one lie after another and then he lied about me to other employees...
Really firing him was a no brainer, and pretty anti-climatic, I was expecting an argument from him.
Oh well his problems are not mine.
Ok....lighten up, lady carps. It was a joke. Poll the ladies under my gentle tutelage and I think you will find they are pretty darn okay with the room they have to grow in my shop. I know you're kidding too, but you're not gonna find too many guys (and I am a guy, BTW.....bull cabinetmaker) more supportive of women in my trade. I very actively recruit 'em.
To the original topic.....you get a guy like that, the only thing you can do is move him on, fast. Not in the business of fixing psychological messes.Cabinetmaker/college woodworking instructor. Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.
I personally found it ammusing ;)
and knew you were kidding.
I'm just glad he showed himself right up front, seems most people try to hid their crap for a while.
Adrian,
Do you like the new curtains in the Tavern?A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.
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one freaking joke and the chicks are all clucking like hens ...
since this is in the biz thread ... the serious side ...
how about "they" open that shop next door and compare products.
thinking a coupla diy's and almost been's won't compare.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
The only response I can come up with right now.
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"Everything is under control. I'M gonna go make some pies now." Dinosaur 07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPONTneuaF4
Still waiting for someone to die and leave you his sense of humor?
thinking a coupla diy's and almost been's won't compare.
Are you trying to be funny?My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
You havnt been on here all that long and Jeff's been working out of town so maybe your not familure with his posts but ....
Are you trying to be funny?
No, he's serious!
Doug
No, he's serious!
This thread was the first one I read this morning. I later went to another one he was in and realized my mistake then.
To steal (Bill Hartmans tag line, I think it's his, " there's an azzhole in every bunch), and in this case it's Jeff!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
and in this case it's Jeff!
Now there ya go, assuming stuff you dont know anything about!
Sorta like my guess about you getting up early to cook breakfest?
Doug
Now there ya go, assuming stuff you dont know anything about!
That was going on what YOU said and by other posts read!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
"Now there ya go, assuming stuff you dont know anything about!"Actually, I thought she showed some pretty good powers of observation.;o)~~~Ladyfire, I think Jeff was pushing buttons. His sense of humor on the subject is extremely 'dry' compared to most here.I was once convinced he had to be the most misogynistic person I had ever met. Now, I'm sure that is not at all true.He is easy to take the wrong way. But meet him just once in real life, and you'll like him. (Maybe he'll make it to FireFest, and you'll find out.)=0)I think of him this way... Yeah, he can be an arse. But he's OUR arse, and we love him.Oh, and he and I have butted heads many times. Sometimes pretty hard. But when the feet hit the ground, neither of us would hesitate to help the other.
Yeh... That'll work.
I will take what you say about Jeff to serious thought. It is so hard to tell sometimes when a person is serious online.
After he reads the posts he may come to firefest to put me in my place, so to speak! That's okay, I dished it out, so I can take it.
Seems I need to be a little more delicate regarding certain issues.
I will try better to behave.
Thanks for the heads up! My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Re: "Yeah, he can be an arse."...And aren't we all, at some time or another ?;o)
Yeh... That'll work.
I resemble that remark!
"Are you trying to be funny?"
No.
why do U ask?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Jeff,
I has a stupid brain fart this morning. Sorry. My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
thinking a coupla diy's and almost been's won't compare.
I'm sorry to here that Jeff.
On the serious side, maybe you need to take the OPs advice and let them guys go.
Glad to see these ladeez didn't help make your death wish come true!But it did look like you were headed for an involuntary sex change operation;)
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more supportive of women in my trade. I very actively recruit 'em.
Well...........since you apologized so nicely and gave a thumbs up for the women, I can find it in my heart to forgive you.
We were kidding too, but man, did we have a good time at your expense! Thanks for that! I was laughing so hard, I almost wet myself! The look on Bambam's face at some of the posts were priceless!
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Hey Adrian, glad to see your back after spending the night in the doghouse.
Okay MAYBE I egged it on just a little. But it was all in good fun.
Knew you were kidding too.
"Women have NO place in a shop"
Well, that's true, if they're just going to criticize what your doing, and then ask: "So, have you done anything all day?" ;)"Objects in mirror appear closer than they are."
Klakamp Construction, Findlay, Ohio - just south of the Glass City
Wait a minute.....
You posted like I quoted that. Are you trying to get ME in trouble.
How much is Adrian paying you.... come on out with it man. :)
luv throwing boy scout water on the fire
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or the boy scout...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Yeah me too.
BUT YA DID!!!!
yur the original OP...
you put adrian up to it to start with...
we all saw it....Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Shhhh...
okay...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
If women have no place in the shop, who's gonna sweep up the sawdust?Stay tuned for chapter two, Adrian;)
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If women have no place in the shop, who's gonna sweep up the sawdust?
Ashamed ashamed ashamed. That's what you should feel right now. See if I call you the master again!
Piffen: Kiss my grits.
As to who's gonna sweep up the sawdust, I'll send Bambam your way. Maybe you can offer him a warmer place to sleep than the dog house!
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Edited 8/12/2007 7:19 am ET by ladyfire
Edited 8/12/2007 2:49 pm ET by ladyfire
Ya might wanna rethink that post.Youse might not wanna be tellin' dose kinda secrits on dis here fambly kinda sight.SamT
Rethink which one?My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Rez knows which one.
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Going to yahoo IM you and talk a minute. Ok or not?My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
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sounds like it is pretty hot right near you this morning. Why you up so early on a sunday? get up to plug in his vacumn for him?;)
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Why you up so early on a sunday?
Up making breakfest like any good house wife, thats why!
I say this after having made toquitoes for my family!
Doug
Nope. Wrong guess.
I say this after having made toquitoes for my family!
Sounds good, where's mine? I'm hungry. Need to wake Bambam so he can get up and cook my breakfast! LOLMy brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Got up at 5:45 this morning. Been working out early in the a.m.
Be....Lyna gets her groove back!
Bambam's not in trouble,,,,,,,,,,,,just like to tease him.My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
"So, have you done anything all day?"
A good woman says," How muxh can we get done today? I like working in the shop. I just wish it wasn't so hot!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
a good women says things like:
Can I fill up your coffee dear.
Can I bring you another glass of lemonade or maybe a beer.
Dinner will be waiting when you get home tonight.
What would you like for dinner.
I'll go clean the house while your buddies are over watching the game with you.
Sure you can go out with your friends on firday, I'll stay home with the kids.
etc...
GDR
Its nice when a woman knows her place aint it!
Doug
sure is... you want to tell my wife hers...?
you want to tell my wife hers...?
As long as I can tell her from here!
Doug
Dang its getting hot in here.. Think I'll go outside and cool off, its only 104 out there.
So do you and Ladyfire each have your own computer or do you take turns?
We each have our own.
As long as I can tell her from here!
Where's all that manly talk Doug? Did you turn into a chicken?
:)My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Where's all that manly talk Doug? Did you turn into a chicken?
Your funny, your taking this whole women thing a little to far dontcha think!
I dont know Neils wife so thats why the comment " I'll tell her from here"
If you have to keep reminding us men that you belong in the shop then maybe you dont!
Doug
Give me the DW's number and I'll call her and tell her what you said!
See if your place and her place are the same!
:)My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Give me the DW's number and I'll call her and tell her what you said!
I'd be more then happy to - good luck though.
I'm not one of the guys on here that thinks my wife is someone that I have to fear or obey. My wife takes a lot of BS from me but she knows where I stand and what I think of women, her in particular, so nothing you could say would have any effect on her(or her opinion of me) and I'm not afraid that you or anybody else would say something that could get me in the "dog house" - thats a term for puzzywhiped guys anyhow.
Doug
OKAY! Calm down!
I don't think most of the guys here fear or obey their wives, or vice versa. It's just a life long jibe between the two. If you can't be honest with your feelings of who you are or how you feel about vertain things, to your mate, you have no business being married in the first place, IMO. ( not you necessarily, but anyone.)
Dog house, again a jibe between husabnds and wives. We don't even have a dog house. I just throw Mike under the porch! LOL
Edit: I just read your next post to me,
Hey, I thought we were just kidding around man. Seriously, I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else. I apologize if that's how I came across.
But, I do belong in the shop, the house etc. because I stand beside my husband in all things, not behind or in front of him.
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Edited 8/12/2007 12:46 pm ET by ladyfire
"because I stand beside my husband in all things, not behind or in front of him."Are you sure you meant "in ALL things" ?;o)
Yeh... That'll work.
Well. not ALL things.My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
"Its nice when a woman knows her place aint it!"And it's even nicer when she lets you into it
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Can I fill up your coffee dear.
That's out, he don't drink it. I do refill his tea though.
I'll go clean the house while your buddies are over watching the game with you.
I clean my house everyday. I have encouraged him to go out, but he won't go without me. Maybe he thinks I have a boyfriend he don't know about!
I watch the games too, we bet on whose will win the most!
So, can I still work in the shop?My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
I'd say your shop worthy... ;)
I seriously have no problem with women in the shop... though mostly I've seen them on calanders ;)
The funny part was, I never ONCE saw this guys wife, no idea who she is or what she looks like....
If I saw some sketchy looking guy looking through stuff or something, yeah, I'd ask him who the fck he was, but someone just standing around, nah, I'd ask "Can I help you"
I know. Given the circumstances, I'd say you did the right thing!
I fired a guy one time because he walked out on me and said, I'm not listening to a woman.
Fired one beacuse he got smashed in a hotel when we were in Laredo working. Started fighting with another worker on the 2nd story balcony. Made him find his own way back to Nacogdoches too!
You made the right call. Can't coddle and raise everybody! My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
" Piffen screws my azz! :) "
I think we found your boyfriend =0
" Wow we didn't know JHOLE could run that fast" - ;)Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
Hah Hah Hah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Witty you are!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
ROFLMAO
I didnt even catch that one.
Whew!Nor did IThat my story and I'm sticking to it
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Problem solved. Referring to that post.
I didn't catch it and I'm the one that wrote it!
Must've been from getting up so early. Spent some good time trying to help a friend locate a 2008 ford superduty. Was tough with the specs he wants!
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Edited 8/12/2007 2:54 pm ET by ladyfire
Be careful with those Fords. I know a mason that has a 450 dualie and the front end and engine area a constant problem. He says the big prob w/ the engines are all the emission crap that are tacked onto the engine are choking it. He has a friend withe same truck and had the engine Replaced Twice withe less than 8K on it.
Yeah, my BIL has a 2005 and has the same problems.
I tried to tell him, but he's 66 years old and set in his ways.
He wants his truck black with a 5.4 V8 gas, automatic, xlt, 410 rear, and a trailer towing package. I can find them all over Texas in a diesel, but very few gas. Most of those are white.
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Edited 8/12/2007 3:45 pm ET by ladyfire
tell yur buddy to scrap the ford drive lines and put in a Cummins...
problems solved...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Ok.....but if she starts calling your name.....LOL
Piffen............
Piffen.............
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
I think he meant elsewhere...
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I know what he meant screw man!My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
I feel so much better now;)
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Good. Wouldn't want you feelign bad. Might bend your screws!
My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Now that's what I want to hear!!!!!"Objects in mirror appear closer than they are."
Klakamp Construction, Findlay, Ohio - just south of the Glass City
It's true. Some of the best times with Bambam have been out in the shop making coffee tables, beds, swings, hope chests, cabinets. It fascinates me to see a bunch of wood turn into a beautiful piece of work!
My next project is to make a holder for all the rakes and shovels that I saw here. I have the material, it's just been too hot! My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
You're too hot for BamBam? That's why they call you LadyFire?
So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable Creature, since it enables one to find or make a Reason for everything one has a mind to do. --Benjamin Franklin
NOOOOOOOO! Never been HOT, never will be. I got red hair, female firefighter.
That's where the name came from.My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
Looks like she's not too hot for Piffen.Apparently he's even allowed to kiss her grits !;o)
Yeh... That'll work.
Some people just don't seem to have it together. I had similar type problem last month. I tried a guy out for couple weeks. He wasn't happy with the rate I was starting him at, so I said OK if you feel you're worth more, I'm willing to give you the chance to prove it. ( didn't say in those words)
anyway, I set him up framing this deck structure with our apprentice carpenter, to not only give him the chance to demonstrate his skills but also to see his ablilty to supervise a guy under him. WOW my poor apprentice. said he would never work alone with the guy again. guy couldn't keep his cool. if a mistake was made he would loose it, start swearing. kept going off how he was in charge, and he would get in trouble by me for mistakes. next day I had to send my partner back to the job, to take over. the guy would butt heads with my partner, and challenge every little thing rather than realizing he is the new guy on the block and should maybe take notice to how things are done by others. he was very cocky, yet his skills didn't warrant his arrogance. around me he was cool, he lsitened to what I said and how I wanted things done, but he just couldn't seem to handle working with others.
I was also somewhat torn because I knew he had 3 young boys to take care of. and I actually I knew the two older boys ( youngest is about 6 months) and they are both good kids, so it's hard not to think about the kids. But in the end having the guy on site would have just caused havoc.
I decided to called a buddy of mine that runs a concrete business, his sites are a lot rougher than mine, and I thought perhaps this guy may be a better fit doing form work with a slightly rowdier bunch. I gave my buddy fair warning and said it was up to him, he could try him out if he wanted ( he'd been phoning me a lot lately desperalty looking for some help on a big form job. ) anyway, I called the guy up, and simply told him I didn't think I could pay him enough to keep him happy, and told him about my buddy. he was cool about it and said all was good, and that he had some other stuff lined up.
so all's well that ends well...but what an ordeal.
I think you really had no choice. Delaying the action would only have made things worse for both of you.
FWIW, I have encountered a 'class' of person who seems earnest, respectable .... and tells the most amazing, completely plausible tales of non-stop tragedy: the "Meth head." Your guy sounds like a possible "crank" user.
Suffice it to say that such folks seem to delight in dropping farther than anyone thought possible ... and taking others with them. These folks are already dead - they just forgot to stop breathing.
Unlike most drug users, the 'meth head' does an extremely fine impersonation of the hard-charging, on-the-ball, "together" individual. During this period, it is simply astounding the amount of damage that they will do. A couple of indicators are:
a) An excessive sense of their cleverness and abilities;
b) Working hard all day- and accomplishing little;
c) Extremely engaging, great social skills. This will soon break down into incomprehensible babble;
d) An excessive tendency to 'fix' things; and,
e) (Big surprise here) Stuff starts disappearing, tales of woe (and accomplishment) get more outlandish, and other integrity issues arise.
Let me give you an example ..... Once there was an incident, an attack on a person using an ATM machine. The ATM, at that time, had a line of about 20 people waiting to use it. Afterwards, I had the opportunity to interview everyone- and I mean everyone. 19 told one story. #20 - a person not involved in the incident at all- told an entirely different tale, one that had the situation completely turned around. What was amazing was that #20 had every detail correct; he just managed to create a fantasy that have things 'inside out.' By appearances, #20 looked to be a perfectly respectable, well spoken professional.
At the time, I thought #20 was simply psycho; now, I speculate he just may have been a meth user "before the crash."
Not sure if this guy was a user or not. He seemed together but who knows. We do not perform pre-employment drug test, something to think about I suppose.
The weird part is I called his 3 past employers, two had nothing but good things to say about him, one was a little iffy but not bad enough to cause a problem. His background check came back clean. Had a family and a professional wife. All the signs of a stable individual in my book.
Hope he's not dumb enough to put us down as a reference
We do not perform pre-employment drug test, something to think about I suppose.
We do drug tests upon hiring as well as randomly. That is one sure way to weed through the ones that are using. They will refuse to take the test if they do.My brain + his brawn = a perfect team
This guy made it pretty easy but I still hate putting a guy with a family out.
Hey Neil... sorry I don't have time to read through all the 100+ posts in this thread, but I wanted to add my two cents. Here they are:
Fu$k Him.
Life's too short to try to help someone who isn't interested in helping themselves. Can him, go home, be nice to the old lady, and sleep well tonight. I've got to fire someone this week and it's going to be tough one cuz he's a nice kid, wants to be there, but moves around like old people having sex. He's just too freaking slow and we've already talked about it once.
You know the drill.... some dudes are tough to let go. But that fish you got on the line there....... that's an easy one to throw back into the lake.
I was apperantly more in touch with my femine side when I posted it orginaly.
Believe me, I'm over it.