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HANGING DRYWALL

| Posted in General Discussion on May 18, 2001 05:11am

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I’ve just finished FERGUSON’s book on dry wall techniques and I’ve read on page 52 that butted seams must be staggered.
So this morning at the coffee break I told my boss (just as stupid as a young worker can be) that’s the way things should be done. He looked at me just like I was speaking Chinese and he laughed.

He told me that this way of hanging and taping would be 30% more time consuming. The drywaller on job site told me the same thing.
So people out there tell me that Ferguson is not bummed, and that I’m not speaking Chinese.

THANKS GUYS!!

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  1. Allyson_Stiles | May 18, 2001 03:57am | #1

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    Butt joints should be staggered. It doesn't take alot of time either. You'll waste more time trying to make an 8' or longer butt joint when finishing than a 4' one. Doesn't sound like a very good drywall guy to me. I wouldn't accept it.

    Billy

    1. calvin_ | May 18, 2001 04:03am | #2

      *You're not wrong and what else is this guy teaching you? Might take more time, but sure as hell not 30%. No hangers I use nor me, stack the board. I learned on commercial but I assumed residential was the same. Don't think it's worth the risk of a butt crack. Ha.

      1. Phill_Giles | May 18, 2001 04:13am | #3

        *Geez, even HfH stagger their verticle joints, but not the horrizontals.

        1. Allyson_Stiles | May 18, 2001 04:16am | #4

          *What is HfH, Phill? And whoever it is , they are not hanging my jobs if they don't stagger hortizontal AND vertical.Billy

          1. Cal_Howard | May 18, 2001 04:23am | #5

            *Pea- How big are these rooms you guys do? A 32'x32' over 1000' only has 12 staggered butt joints using 16 footers. At 1 minute per joint extra time it sounds like your boss can tape the whole room wrong in 35 min.. Cal

          2. Rein_Taul | May 18, 2001 04:32am | #6

            *Of course the drywall manufacturers will also tell you it takes 30% longer (or 30% more expensive) to taper the ends of the boards the same way as the edges. Craftsmen shouldn't accept shortcuts, but consumers should?

          3. Phill_Giles | May 18, 2001 04:41am | #7

            *Habitat for Humanity - it's a NFP community service organization that builds houses with unskilled volunteer labour. But I'm fascinated by your assertion: with eight-foot ceilings, how do you stagger without adding additional joints ? With 9-10 high walls, you could stagger on both planes; but, I think it's more common to hang vertically.

          4. Phill_Giles | May 18, 2001 04:43am | #8

            *b ORmaybe they'd say that there's no practical way to taper the ends and still use rollers.

          5. Rein_Taul | May 18, 2001 04:47am | #9

            *I've hung around many manufacturing engineers. If the consumer wants a product, it can be produced. All it takes is the business will to let these engineers loose with the problem!

          6. Allyson_Stiles | May 18, 2001 04:47am | #10

            *Phill,If it's 10' ceilings and the framing allows, I hang the board vertically so there are no butt joints. 9' is horizontal with 54" board. If 8', then I hang horizontal. I try to break all butt joints that I can in the middle of a doorway or window. The whole object is to eliminate as many butt joints as possible and stagger them so they are not any longer than they have to be. Butt joints are the hardest part of a drywall job and proper planning can eliminate alot of them and make managing the necessary ones easier.Billy

          7. Phill_Giles | May 18, 2001 04:59am | #11

            *If you hang vertically, there's a vertical butt joint every 4'.

          8. Allyson_Stiles | May 18, 2001 05:11am | #12

            *There is NO butt joints Phill. You order drywall that is 10' long.Billy

  2. pbriand | May 18, 2001 05:11am | #13

    *
    I've just finished FERGUSON's book on dry wall techniques and I've read on page 52 that butted seams must be staggered.
    So this morning at the coffee break I told my boss (just as stupid as a young worker can be) that's the way things should be done. He looked at me just like I was speaking Chinese and he laughed.

    He told me that this way of hanging and taping would be 30% more time consuming. The drywaller on job site told me the same thing.
    So people out there tell me that Ferguson is not bummed, and that I'm not speaking Chinese.

    THANKS GUYS!!

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