I saw some discussion in the archives regarding the high pressure nailers. I couldn’t find anyone who has actually used them yet though.
Any input from a user yet?
As an interesting side note…
I’ve been using framing, roofing and finish nailers for a 15 years or so now. The only mishaps I’ve ever had were twice due to an employee carrying the damn nailer with the trigger depressed.
However… last week I nailed myself twice!!!! I just can’t explain it. The first one caught the meat right between the index and thumb, hit the bone and bounced out (I think). The next one shot through my index finger — like an arrow sticking out both sides of my finger. I actually had to grab that sucker and pull it out.
Later that day I noticed my middle finger was bothering me and I couldn’t figure out why. Well DUH! The nail had shot right through the index finger and punctured the middle finger as well. Sigh… must be too much stuff on my mind.
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Check out the latest issue of FH. Mike Guertin does a review on the Max rig.
Jon Blakemore
I haven't read the article yet but, my question is, in fifty words or less can anyone tell me exactly what these high pressure setups do that regular setups don't?
smaller guns i believe
therefore: weigh less etc.... but same power
50 words or less: The higher pressure allow a lot more air crammed into the compressor. The compressor isn't much bigger than a computer printer but holds as much air as those wheelbarrow compressors. The gun weighs about 5lbs and can hold a full 10d coil.
Basically it's just a really lightweight setup. I can tell you from experience, that production does go up.
Oh, I just read the article. He describes it as "almost perfect". Ican't justify that price though with what I do.
I hear youl. There are other manufacturers introducing hi pressure systems. I'm hoping price will come down. I can get along fine without the hi pressure system, but oh if you use it you will love it. It is a sweet system. I had no complaints abou the gun. That gun was pure heaven (for framers, heaven is relative :-)). It sure is spendy though.
Must break your heart when you gotta turn all that good loot in!
Ya, but it sure cleans out the garage and the van :-) I had to use my own nail guns today and 2 of them have blown seals !
think they would have noticed if you'd have sent back an old pancake and gun?
;)
I grabbed our oldest Hitachi and wrote with a Sharpie "Mack's Hi Pressure" I don't think they bought it :-)
The June issue of JLC will have about a 3 page review of the Max system. It'll be up on their website probably Tuesday. There are some other companys coming out with hi-pressure systems also.
If you have any other questions after that, just ask. I've been using it since November and would still be using it if someone (he knows who he is :-)) hadn't shot through 2 hoses!!
Edited 5/30/2004 10:45 pm ET by TIMUHLER
what do the higher pressure hoses run, can't be too much can it?
I forget off the top of my head. About a $100 I think.
The whole system (hoses gun and comp.) runs about 3 grand.
A tad steep for my blood!
Especially considering that a Good quality Standard pressure system is about 1/4 the cost and works fine.
Just like HDTV
I'l get one after they have been out a few years and all the "gotta have the latest technology" guys have found all the kinks.
But OTOH if any one wants to send me a setup to test, I'd be happy to use one!!Mr T
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3 grand, you didn't miss type that hunh?
no way in hell...
Would you be using it if you had to front the bill for it?
I have a feeling this technology will take a while to catch on.
Jon Blakemore
The prices that Max quoted me, were much less than the 3000. It was $1200 for the compressor, $400-500 for the gun and around $100 for the hose
So it's about $2000. After using it, and you'll see the commments in more detail in the article, I was seriously thinking about investing in the setup. You have to use it. The gun is the finest gun I have every used, and I have had the opportunity to use quite a few guns. It is a sweet machine. The compressor as you saw in FHB's article, can run quite a few guns.
After saying that, I will wait until competitors introduce their products and prices come down.
On a side note, I just bought a Hitachi NV 75AG (I think that is the number). It will shoot a 3" x .131" nail and with a belt hook from Dead On Tools, this is one sweet gun. It is a coil nailer with an adjustable depth of drive and best of all it's Hitachi.
Hope that helps. I'll wait for the article to come out before I go on in more detail.
I haven't used the high pressure set up but I just purchased my THIRD Max sidewall gun yesterday.
I don't care what anyone here says about Bostitch or Hitachi......Max guns so rock its not funny.
Lets also not leave out the eel hoses.
BE in love with Max guns!!
Be the future!!
andyThe secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
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Have you seen the Max roofing gun? Almost made me want to be a roofer :-) They have some sweet sweet tools. We have the CN90II coil nailer and it is a very nice gun. The stick nailer is sweet and so is the hi pressure nailer. So far of the Max tools I've seen and used, I am very impressed.
just bought my third side wall nailer which I'm using on shakes and roof perfections.
The Eel hose is also awesome!
Be in love
andy"My life is my practice"
Here's the article in JLC
http://www.jlconline.com/cgi-local/view.pdf/771008730f5b1bfcde9cb6c8b9012b0e/www.jlconline.com/cgi-bin/jlconline.storefront/40bd081d001c325627177f0000010518
Tim,
Thanks for the article.
How would you compare the Max hose to a flex-eel hose?
Jon Blakemore
I would say they are pretty close. It was/is a very light hose. It didn't snag on anything. This is just a great setup. Hopefully the price will come down a little.