I’m getting ready to power up my shop so I’m taking one of the existing house appliances off the grid. We have what looks like a bootleg kitchen in the impoved basement with a stove/cooktop. This is second kitchen. Anyway, I have the cover off of the 220V receptical and the wiring is newer plastic coated romex style. I go back to the panel and start turning off ciruits to find it and the two breakers that turn it off have old clothe wrapped wire in them. So, somewhere in the walls there is a burried cunction box. I want to eliminate the circuit. What is best way to remove this wiring. I need to remove it form the wall and in the panel. The panel is a mess so I would like to just remove it completely.
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The panel is a mess so I would like to just remove it completely.
Not sure I fully understand what you are asking. Is there a reason you can't just disconnect the wires at both ends, verify they have no voltage, and then just run a new cable point to point?
" I'm taking one of the
" I'm taking one of the existing house appliances off the grid."
I'm eliminating this stove from the electrical service completely.
Won't need a new cable. My electrical panel is a mess. I want to clean it up.
Won't need a new cable. My
Won't need a new cable. My electrical panel is a mess. I want to clean it up.
So you are asking how to remove the wire from the wall? Why remove it at all - more commonly, they are just abandoned in place.
>>I need to remove it form the wall and in the panel.
Why?
diagonal cutters to cut wire, push stub back thru hole with screwdriver, remove wire clamp and install knockout plug.
Huh
got it! I insulated the wires in the wall and buried them.
The main panel is another can of worms.
The wires go up into the cieling. I'm going to pull the ceiling down and see what is up there.
It's just a fire taped utility room.
In the panel, cut the wires off flush with the end of the cable, loosen the clamp, and push the wires out of the box. Should be no need to deal with the other end, or the mysterious junction in the middle. (Of course, before cutting off the wires BE SURE that they aren't feeding something else as well.)
I'm going to make sure
I'm going to make sure tomorrow. I checked all the 220V stuff but i didn't check the 110V.
I think a few pictures are in order.
The second pic is of the rigid conduit going up into the ceiling. that is where my wires go. Chances are that the conduit ends in the ceiling so i could get the wires out of the conduit.
The third pic shows a lot of wires exiting the panel through a secong rigid conduit on the left. Many of these are cloth wroapped.
The fourth pic shows the red and balck cloth wrapped wires exiting up into the conduit. These are the two I would like to get out of the panel and the conduit.
The fifth pic is in the crawlspace to the left of the panel where the wires dump into the crawlspace.
They just used the conduits to get the wires into the walls or crawlspace. Maybe they thought they would frame and drywall that wall eventually.
Be aware that some wiring of intermediate age has a cloth covering over plastic/rubber insulation. If the cloth has been stripped away it may look like regular plastic-insulated wire.
Thanks! I'll check some out.
Thanks! I'll check some out. It might be. The house was built in the late fifties or early sixties.
Also be aware - that [most] cloth covered wire had rubber insulation which affected the copper wire; the copper wire was thus tinned to a silver color which can mistaken for aluminum wiring (for example, by a then inexperienced home inspector (I "hear"))
Thanks! I've work with cloth
Thanks! I've work with cloth wrapped wire in old homes. I think I remember there being a layer of plastic or rubber that disintagrated when I touched it. more like old dried up rubber.
I remember the common wire being hot when I had the breaker off!