I’ve been to a few Breaktime Fests now. Wear my t-shirts all the time and the hat Mike Smith gave me (along with everyone else) at TexFest is my favorite hat.
So anyways, today I was thinking it might be fun to exchange carpenter’s pencils with as many people as possible here at Breaktime. The pencil I’d send you has my local yard name and address on it – that’s what I’d like to get back, a pencil from your favorite yard with the name and address of the yard on it.
Hokey? What can I say, I sentimental. So how about it, any other saps out there who’d like to have pencils from all over the world to remember other folks by? Anyone else game?
I was even thinking it might be more meaningful if it’s a used pencil, or at least sharpened, but I would settle for new if that’s what you folks think.
What do you say?
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Jim,
I'm in al the way.
Have about 100 different carpenter's pencils now and it would be great to add to my collection.
Bright yellow Meeks pencil with Buffalo, MO addy and phone #.
Hi Bee,
I have sent pencils to you and two other builders in the USA. Today I received a pencil from Indiana, Thank you Rich Beckmann (whom I could not send an e-mail) "return-path" and so forth.
It is amazing to see the difference in price you pay for a trans-atlantic envelope with an enclosure. ( You guys pay between $ 1,50- $ 1,60). The German mail milks me for 8 Euros. Now that´s roughly 8 dollars... I like the great idea of pencil solidarity in this world, and its great to open the mailbox to find something else than bills and trash... but this is liable to ruin me. I will try to be a sport for a while now, so first come first served is the motto.
I have found the lighter - it is not a Zippo, but a Japanese Generic make named Baldwin. It has an engraving, laid out in red - so and so electric company. Phone number. American give-away, my father gave it to me. I would think it´s from Kentucky. No area code. If it would be an addition to your collection that you desperately want...I´ll send it. If not, it´s the shop back up lighter. Greetings, Mathias Raulf http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Hey Matt, would you get offended if I asked some questions about working in Europe? Seriously, I don't mean to offend you, and I'm not a wordly guy, but I have an impression of most modern European economies as quite a bit farther to the left than ours here in the States. That is, far more government involvement in who can work, where, and how much they make etc. Is that accurate?
Have you noticed a big change in the workforce since reunification? Working conditions? Wages?
How is it to work in Germany?
If you ask my american Trim-carpenter Chris it is very different. Everything is slower, more expensive, more government involvement - but in the end we have to drive nails just like you.
We have a three-phase career trail, that is controlled and governed by the State:
# 1: apprenticeship at a master (you enter young, anywhere from 16 - 25 yrs.). Low pay,
1st yr. only #### (carry, load, clean-up and you may WATCH). Schooling half a week.
2nd yr. medium duty, already elevated to finer things, final exam as a Facharbeiter (worker)
3rd yr. Independant work, but supervised, final exam as a Geselle (journeyman).
If you want to start your own business, you´ll have to be a (#2) working Geselle for 3 yrs. and after that you can apply for (#3) Master-School (Master carpenter school/costly - 1 yr. no pay - about 10.000 $ in fees and what not)). Only then can you work and write bills.
What a Geselle makes is regulated by Union pay (minimum), and is exceeded if very good or lowered (against the law) in an economic slump (as now).You see it seems very regulated over here: But everybody cuts as many corners as possible. Only if you are caught - well, the State collects stiff fines for violation of any of 1 million regulations. VERBOTEN
The workforce is expensive - after opening of the iron-curtain we have east Germans, Poles, Rumanians... you name it, flooding in and breaking up the german system (working for a fraction of the cost, only cash). Everybody laments this of course, but I think it was about time to break with these medieval traditions - get some competition is good - but only if you are better and can justify a higher price. It´s Darwinistic - we become more american - you become more european is what I thought. We have Codes, OSHA and a couple of other perrennial visitors...
Chris always says: Been there - done that - got the T-shirt.
Maybe he can tell you more - an american angle. BTW: He´s my best man!
Mathias
Edited 10/25/2003 7:30:56 AM ET by Matt
Received pencils from JB Jump and John Walker today, thanks you guys. Australia! Yikes!
One international package, westbound, Monday morning.
"timbers" I'd forgotton that's what you guys call "lumber". Cool.
Still awaiting a pencil from New England. Man, those cats are frugal.
Matt,
$8.00 is too much to mail pencils, if it cost us that much, I'd say there wouldn't be too many in the mail.
Wish you had told me before you mailed them. I would have insisted that you not send them. Just too much. You hang onto the lighter. Especially if your dad gave it to you, and I only collect Zippos.
i found some yellow Bic lighters, but checked at the Post Office and legally I can't send them to you. Not even on a slow boat. So sorry about that. You just have to stick to the Spanish and French ones.
best regards from the U.S.
BrianView Image
Bee,
Sorry to confuse you with Jim Blodgett on the political info I´ll be sending. I will have to get used to your names - and I am very bad at names anyway.
Thank you for finding out about the BIC lighter.
Probably just for asking at the post-office you are now under steady supervision by the NSA, FBI and CIA. The thought that a combustible explosive could be sent through the mail...and via AIR MAIL could build a link to terror. But if they are that good - This e-mail will clarify everything.
Funny, before 9/11 I have sent tools and everything in a big metal crate to Vienna via airfreight (and it was not more expensive than my seat, weighed the same (200lbs). I went to the airfreight guys, checked it in and it got on the same plane I went with. When I had my luggage and rental car, I was able to receive the box, with a padlock on it.
Of course I knew the regulations, but I needed mineral-spirits, Spray-cans...at he job. I thought - well....It was never opened, and could have been full of atomic waste, bombs, cocaine, weapons - you name it.
Queer is it not, that a BIC lighter could be a liability for disaster - to some bureucrat.
Greetings, Mathias raulfcarpenters.com
Matt, work out a deal with blodgett or bee and mail them a bunch. You're paying for each package, not alot of weight. Send em a handfull and your list, I'm sure they'll take care of the rest.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Hi Calvin, that is a good idea...I will wait a while...make a list...and send them to....Bee. If that is alright with him. But I´ll write anyway an e-mail concerning his interest in german economic/political mechanisms.
Too bad I did not think of this - american practical thinking - thank you. Mathias http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Matt,
No problem at all. I'd be happy to send the pencils out for you.
great idea guys,
BrianView Image
Practical thinking hell, just looking for a beer.
I fished the Rhine and the Danube in the mid sixties. Didn't catch any. Did they clean up those rivers?
Got a mercedes crunched on the way from the factory in stuttgart, on the way to Italy. Baden Baden, circular town road (what do you call that when the roads enter or come upon a circle?) Truck ran over the front fender. Ended up taking the train I think, came back for the car.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
"what do you call that when the roads enter or come upon a circle?"
I call it a traffic circle. Don't know what anyone else calls it.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
alright Rich, so I'm not a genius.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Hey Rich! Package arrived yesterday, thanks.
Thank you Jim,
your two pencils arrived perfectly. You are #2 on the waiting list for a bulk mailing. I will include some very old hand-wrought nails we tore out of wide-plank Douglas Fir. That floor was room-length (22 feet long planks,8" to 14" wide and 1 1/2" thick). Shame to take it out, when those tongues are splintering and flying around your ears. It was wormy, but minimal. I´d said the worms were all but gone for 100 yrs...but the architect insisted on a redo.
Should I talk myself out-of a job?
The hard part was finding a substitute. In Denmark I was lucky. Look at http://www.dinesen-jels.dk
It is just a small mill...the quality of the crated shipped planks was sooo good. Have you seen 55 planks..all straight to a line, not one warped, all factory plugged and finish planed like glass? And they go together like a charm, no slack not too tight. I wondered: How do they do it? A friend visited the mill and found this out: Instead of sawing and then planing they reverse it. They plane to thickness, then tighten the plank with a vacuum table device (30 foot long thing) and send a twin circular-saw travelling on a rod system above down the wood. It malkes sense: we have this law in the first year of apprenticeship: If the wood is longer and heavier than the big machine get the small machine to the wood.
If you get to Austria - once over here .- maybe you could make it to Hamburg. It is really a beautiful city.
Edited 10/24/2003 11:43:56 AM ET by Matt
OUCH!!! Plese don't send to me... That amount is rediculous...
I hope yuo havn't sent already...
Enjoy the pencils you and think well of us over here...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Yeah, holy moly man, that's gonna get expensive quick. Calvin has a good idea there. I'd be glad to send a few around this continent for you.
I do think well of you guys anyway - as I have worked and lived in the US. It was amazing, how fast and on-time construction was in America (at least in new-house developments).
Greetings, Mathias http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
I was stationed in Wiesbaden, (till the unit was made to leave W. Germany per request of the German Government....ROAR!!- went to Vicenza. They even had the nerve to make Hoensfeld, Weilflicken and Graffenwier off limits to us. The nerve of them) Eschborn, Bad Tolz and Augsburg.
Spent enough time in Saxenhausen to say I was stationed there too... Another hardy ROAR!!! Tried to get it as a TDY station but no body would see it my way.
Total time for Germany was just shy of 8 years... '74/'81
Germany and it's people are squared away.. Toured every where every chance I got even it was day trips. After getting sent to Italy I still made trips back to Germany on a regular basis... Really like Germany...
Please pardon the spelling. I don't think I got too many of the names spelt right and the spell check feature was no help either...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
How much time did you spend in Grafenwöhr?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/grafenwoehr.htm
I was there in '82 and '83 re-building tank ranges. I was in Camp Algiers most of the time I was over there.Democracy is a device that insures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. [George Bernard Shaw]
The place was declared off limits to us in '76 two days after our first visit. Seems as though the PX grub station got trashed. The Piney Club burned to the ground and a "few" members of the 7th/11 were hospitalized. Why any one would blame us for such things as that is beyound comprehension.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Ahhh forgot to mention the fire fight in a near by guest house.
Again we got blamed for that too... Couldn't have been us. GH's were off limits and we would never have violated any of the directives laid down by V Corps. So we wern't there I'm tellin' ya.
Come to think of it, France didn't think much of us either.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Wow, 8 yrs. - that is a long time. Did you learn any german? What is a TDY station btw..
I really dug your answer on the meaning of IMERC - industrial mercenary! IMERC sounds like a big outfit, like Exxon - that name has the connotation to grand designs - the big picture...Could also be a military abbreviation, like MIRV - multiple independently guided reentry vehicle, or LASER - light amplification by serial emission of radiation.
How do you like: Infamous mangler of expensive roofing coil-nails.
You were stationed in the south, like my host-brother Ross ( I was an exchange student in the senior class of ´78, Gloucester/Ma.). He was in the Bamberg barracks 81-82- and I visited him there. The most vivid image I keep was:
Sunday morning, everybody a headache, in the TV-lounge: "Anything on?" - and them guys, Cavalry-tank guys, everyone...were watching roadrunner/Bugs bunnyflics with far away eyes.
In the german army (we still have the general draft) it was the same picture, just different TV-program...and god forbid...if the east had attacked on a Sunday morning, 4:30 GMT...5th of July...
Luckily them days are over...at least for now. If you feel like visiting-pass by the workshop. Theres coffee and a beer - and that goes for everyone here... In case I´m on the job: My cell-phone number ist : 01149 - 171 - 5800 740. (In Germany: 0171 - 5800 740. Greetings, Mathias http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Edited 10/23/2003 1:44:44 PM ET by Matt
TDY = Temporary Duty Station..
Your thought process on IMERC is worth a rich and deep ROAR!!!
How do you like: Infamous mangler of expensive roofing coil-nails.
That's somebody else's job.
Picked up some German. Still can hold my own in a Guest House. No sense in going hungry or thirsty...LOL
Still use pomme fritz sauce but finding a good schnitzel is a little hard to do here in the states.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I will gather a how-to do a Wiener schnitzel from a cook I know from Vienna. (Given the prerequisite: Lives in America, has to start from scratch). Just wait, it´s on the to-do list (backburner). Mathias
There´s two schools: One takes pork, the other veal as the basis. Both are correct. It is like protestants and catholics.
I won't give either a chance...
I don't have the roller and Yaeger is my preference...
The sauce is the catch. Finding a recipe or some one that knows how to make it is he problem.
The best Guest Houses were owned and operated by Omar and Opah.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
OK, Jäger-Schnitzel it´ll be then. The sauce.I got it.
IMERC,
So here, for everybody that knows about Jäger-sauce - is the recipe.
Jägersauce: 100 grams Onions finely chopped/ 100 grams bacon-cut up into small cubes/ 100 grams mushrooms (you know, the regular), 50 grams of pickled cucumber chopped/ 1/8l red wine/ 1 tablespoon Tomato-paste
To do: Fry the bacon in vegetable oil to golden-brown, add onions and go on until glassy/yellow-brown, add mushrooms and the pickles shortly fry everything now, add tomatopaste, add red-wine and let everything come to a boil - shortly.
Now you need a ready made brown-sauce fix (amount for 1 liter), add that and let boil under constant heat until you have reached the right consistancy. Add Salt and Pepper and some chopped parsley.
You can use this recipe for all brown (german) sauces, but with different additions (red and yellow peppers for "Zigeuner"-style...).
The anchor point for brown sauces is always onions, Tomato-paste, red wine and brown sauce-powder. Please add whipped cream (as fat and fresh as possible) just before serving for the final touch...
The meat: Normally you take veal (expensive), but you can substitute fine pork cut into thin slabs.
Cordon bleu will be filled with ham and Gouda-cheese (from Holland), take a mallet and beat on your meat (but be careful to not punch too hard...no holes here), put ham and cheese into meat, like an envelope (can fold it like the cocaine packages), salt - take a plate with flour, immerse package, cover with flour on all outsides, try to press-seal all the seams so they don´t open up in the friteuse or pan (hot oil bake - very hot - keep extinguisher at hand - never try to ext. an oil fire with water), take the floured thing into an egg and then into bread-crumbs (fine). You can fry this at 180 degrees (Celsius) in the fying pan. That goes for Wienerschnitzel too...same without the filling.
Got this first hand from a great cook coming from Vienna.
ENJOY Mathias. For the German beers you´ll have to visit me!
P.S.: You guys will have to do the math on your construction-master...
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"take a mallet and beat on your meat..."
Gotta love those different language/perception things....................(-:Heart attacks. God's revenge for eating his animal friends.
The cocaine will you get thru the ordeal.....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Hi Matt,
Your package arrived today.
Thanks very much for all you sent. I opened it at lunch and everyone was amazed that i had a received a packet of pencils from Germany.
Thanks again,
BrianView Image
Bee, use the one from Switzerland - it is just the best.
Hi Greg Werner, (gwerner), got your two pencils today. What a joy - besides the bills. Thank you - you´re #3 on the mailing list. I´ll wait another 2 weeks and will send them in a batch.
Thanks Matt...
Couple of questions tho..
The brown sauce. Is that what we consider brown gravey?
Whipped cream. Like you put on your hot fudge sundie or Belgium waffles?
Can I pass on beating my meat with a mallet and I don't know how to fold a cocaine packet.... ROAR...
A liberal helping of cocaine would help before getting started with the mallet I suppose...
I have enough stuff on hand to give this try today.
Thanks again...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
"...and I don't know how to fold a cocaine packet.... ROAR..."
I bet you sure know how to UNfold one though.
Not that either...
Show - tell me .. How do you unfold one.... Tell us your method..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Yes, brown gravey it is. I will try to send you some ready-made brown Jägersaucemix from Knorr (so you canmatch the taste). Any fluid cream will do, or if you want to be fancy: French sour cream on top. Tell me about your results...Mathias (Beat the meat, now)
If you go into business as an Oma & Opa restaurant, send me the busine$$ ###. Don´t let anybody steal this. (There´s Jägerschnitzel, Cordon-bleu, Wiener-Schnitzel (served with a lemon), Zigeunerschnitzel...). How about this: A webcam interactive-online cooking class with my Vienna cook as a tutor, he´s a funny guy worked on cruise ships for 15 yrs. and now has a little restaurant with his wife)
Call it TDY-Schnitzel-heaven served by Oma & Opa, Inc.O.C. the rreal money is in drugs, weapons and prostitution (as on construction sites: beers, hammers and workers)
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Edited 10/28/2003 2:06:53 AM ET by Matt
We have the Knorr brand here. I'll look to see if there is sauce mix. I always considered their soups pretty good but a little salty. Hopefully it's the same.
OC the real money is in drugs, weapons and prostitution (as on construction sites: beers, hammers and workers)
I must be living on another planet. That stuff seems to be reserved for the cities. When gambling was leagelized in the near me all of that came with it. Many of use don't care for it and don't support any of it. I'm in the dark ages when it comes to that.
Do you suppose that Oma and Opa will be offended? There was a German resturant in Canyon City run by an ex-GI that did a fine job. I was worth the trip. (1-3/4 hours one way.) Unfotunately he and his wife split up and the placed closed. There are several German places in the Springs. Way over priced and the food is only so so on a good day. 60$ average for a basic small serving per person.
Okay so when do we get started? Gotta beat working in the blisterng heat or mind numbing cold. You choice of names is pretty good too.
I'll think about how I did things and then I'll make up some more and try it out on the help and see what they have to say about it. Usally any thing I cook is well recieved. One of those huge basting pans of lasagna only lasts for one meal.Same for the Salmon, Trout, Orange Ruffy, Chuckers and Pheasant.
There is no recipe for any of this. Kinda That looks about right... That should do formula.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Oma & Opa are not offended...
You do know its only the noun for granma + granpa? Wow, 60$ per person - w.o. beer and wine? What a scheme. I always thought american restaurants are stiff, but wow. I´ll serve, be bus boy...we need a german baker, butcher, Viennoise cook and some cool blonde Walküre as a barmaid. Lederhosen? You´d think we got a market...
(BTW.: Do you think you could send me a carton if I send you the money (cash) first? It just has to be privately wrapped (Oma & Opa style). You can declare: used socks and cigarettes...German duty-guys might not check.
Rape is more like it. 2 people . Full diner allis. 200$.
Small portions and the food is only so - so. The scnitzels are about 10x14x1CM w/ 50ML of sauce. The veal is tough, the pork is stringy and the place is always crowded. Go figure.
BTW... I know Oma and Opa.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Kit, Darcy, pencils arrived yesterday, thank you both. When I get out from under this mountain of paperwork I'll get to the post office and reciprocate.
Hey Kit, you might find a servicable router in you're price range at a pawn shop. Just an idea if push comes to shove.
Darcy - nice card, classy. Is that your business?
Rich - I really liked the green lettering on your card and the choice of fonts was good too. Well done.
Jim,
No need to reciprocate, you already sent me one. I was just replacing my earlier mailing that got chewed.
Finally went out to the job shack here at school yesterday to bum some Las Vegas pencils. Foreman hands me five or six (Cool!) get back to my room and look at them. DOH!
They're all from Labor Ready or similar, none of them say Las Vegas on them, I may just have to write my name on 'em and send out. Don't know when I'll be able to get more and I need to resend to IMERC and Bee and maybe Andy and I've had an envelope with Darcy's address sitting here for at least a week. I keep meaning to hit up some of the subs, but I feel bad interrupting them and their breaks and mine never seem to coincide.
Jim, we have a local sleazy tool place. Reflection there is kind of the same as Ebay. They either have high end stuff (still too pricey) or newer, all plastic Crfatsman crap. One gentleman from Knots emailed me. It sounds like that might come through. Otherwise I'll keep looking around. I've found in the past when doing the ebay thing, usually about two weeks after I give up, I'll check back and there's a bunch of what I was looking for.
-Kit
...and for those of you who haven't yet received a pencil from me, I finally tracked down some more so I'll be mailing soon!
Thanks to all of you who sent to me! This is great fun!
Wow, I'm glad to hear they arrived. Sorry, they didn't have any location printed on them. I tried to track some down, with no luck.
"Darcy - nice card, classy.Ê Is that your business?"
No, my employer. I'm an exterior trim carpenter, but served as warranty manager for about 8 months, (reason for the cards). I should have said, my-soon-to-be-ex-employer. They're laying-off a bunch of us in two weeks, and will only be re-hiring 1/4 of the crew. Ê: (
Darvey your package arrived safe and sound today thanks
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Thanks jim, bee, gwerner, and beckman. I now think I know how to mail (block out the add and stamp and send em back in your package, that made it this way so hopefully will return unscathed).
jim, lebron on the tube tonight.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Ohhhh.. My tummuy is so full. The recipe was made to order. Thanks again..
I did have to adapt a little.
Sour crean instead of wipped cream and tomato paste instead of sauce. Over all it was it scrumpous.
Used range veal. (hardier flavor) Think I'll try it with Elk and Riendeer next.
Almost didn't have enough room for the baked potatoe and veggies. The snitzel was so good I didny want to bother with the side dishes.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I thought folding cocaine envelopes is an international standard. Unfolding should be done in a wind free environment, with unshaky hands and with as little surveillance by local police as possible. Mathias (How great the shared wisdom of the internet)
God, I used to love them schnitzels over there. Also got hooked on Cordon blue. And just about everything else they made in the gasthauses. Gained 20 pounds over there.I'm very good at eating - Can you tell me where they need eaters? [Ashleigh Brilliant]
I always thought TDY stood for "temporary duty yonder".
"Graf" what a frikkin' hell hole that place was. We used to go there for a month once a year for training, '73-'77. Lived in GP mediums, either froze or baked.
Bad Tolz, Bad Tolz, been there too, but can't precisely place it. Was that the training facility down by Garmisch? Or was there maybe a big casino there maybe? On the edge of the Black Forest?
Long as we're eatin' German for lunch I'll have goulash soupen, pommes frittes and a Weizten, bitte. Maybe for dinner I'll have a pepper (feffer?) schnitzel.
I think it was '74. The order from range controll was GREEN. 12.5k shot on a 800# range seemed to be the straw that broke the camel's back. Also there were 2 helos in over flight at the precise moment. We were told to get out of Doge - Never to return.
Bad Tolz down by Garmish was "the" training area not the casino.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Hallo Matt,
Just came from the Post Office and all your pencils are on their way to new owners.
best regards,
BrianView Image
Excelent website, Matt.
Well laid out, and easy to follow, even if you don't know German.
On the following page, it looks like there is supposed to be two links there, but they act only as text. They are not working as links.
http://www.raulfcarpenters.com/referenz.htm
Did you have a professional photographer take the pics ? Excelent contrast, lighting, composition, etc...
Can't we all just get a log ? - Paul Bunyon
Quittin' Time
Luka, those links don´t work because I am too moefone lazy to fill in text. Took the pictures meself. Nikon FIII, Tripod and mostly 20mm lens. Thank you.
Matt,
Instead of mailing the pencils out one at a time, wait until you have several to go and mail them all in one envelope to one of us who can then repackage and remail to the intended recipients. Sure to save a lot of money that way.
I would be happy to do the remailing if you want.
Eight bucks, ouch!
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Hi Rich,
I sent you an e-mail, but it was returned...You are #1 on the waiting list. Thank you for your pencil. White ones are rare over here.
Greetings, Mathias http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Matt, very nice website. Excellent design and layout.
Thank you,
I will have to add some words and commentary. But that would be in german... I will change/upload some more pictures though.
Mathias
Reminds me of some things my father collects - bricks (with the quarry name on it) about 40 so far, ashtrays (800-ish), and coathangers with the name/addess of the cleaner or hotel - 2400 at last count.
Maybe a bit more like the Hams (amateur radio operators) that send each other a postcard with their call sign when they make contact. Obscure and distant contacts are more highly valued.
And like that, this seems like a mostly harmless vice .
Good Luck, you want an Alaskan pencil?
That sounds like a great idea... I'd love to have a bunch of cool pencils to show my students.
Just let me know, Jim.
-Kit Camp
I don;t need anymore clutter floating around the house or van ...
But I'd gladly send off my stubbies before the address is worn/sharpened off.
Who wants what? How's this gig work.
Just don't be confused when a carp from Pgh uses pencils from a place halfway to Erie!
Jeff
Buck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite
Hey Jeff,
Let's trade pencils. I'll trade ya a couple of good users if you'll send me one of those fine collectible PA pencils.View Image
Jim,
I'm not sure my yard has pencils with their name on them. I'll check. If they do, I'm definitely in.
Great idea!!
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
I'm in.
Only have 2 or 3 different ones to trade
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
You just got done driving half way around the damn country, why didnt you pick some up?
Have boxes and boxes of pencils but a limited varity. I think why more when I'll never use the ones I got.
Guess that's dumb logic.
Besides that I couldn't get ou of Kansas fast enough... Stopping was not part of the plan..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Besides that I couldn't get ou of Kansas fast enough
Hey I just caught that.. Nothing to do with me right?
RIGHT?!
Hey Imerc,
I need to check one of the lines of your address. Sent you an email but earthlink put it in the suspect folder...
Check it and get back to me, okay?
Thanks,
Pooch
Jim, I like the idea. Count me in!!!
I'd join in, but I'd probably just be giving you back a pencil you dropped while you were here.
; )
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
I love it--but the only real one's I've got are Dixon BlackAndRed's and the baker's dozen FHB pencils Andy E sent me a while ago for the maple syrup lessons.
The local yards' printed pencils are round. With an eraser. You don't want them, do ya?
Dinosaur
'Y-a-tu de la justice dans ce maudit monde?
Anyone want an Aussie pencil? It might write on the wrong (right) side of the page though.
Cheers Johnhttp://www.johnwalkerbuilders.com
John,
The package arrived today, and I hustled around and got one off to you, also.
Thanks very much,
BrianView Image
Hi JohnAWalker, J&B Walker. Thank you for the australian bundle of pencils. Arrived pristine. Envy is the word for where you live. Expect a packet in the mail soon.
Mathias Raulf http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Hey Novy7! Thanks for the pencils, man. Great to get a couple from that far away. You ever bump into Adrian these days?
One package, eastbound today. Thanks again.
Okay, I'm curious about something.
Why is it that someone from FHB hasn't jumped into our little group and said, "hey you guys and gals need a FHB carpenter's pencil to go with your collections from other members"?
There have to be some out there, didn't dinosaur say that he had a dozen that Andy E. had sent him?
I'm easy,(but not instant), I'd settle for one.
Of course hats and tee shirts would be nice, too.
BrianView Image
Just sealed up about another half dozen pencil/nail packages.....hope I didn't forget anyone that sent me some...Emailed IMERC for his address again being that my early packs seemed to have gotten destroyed as did some that came my way ( I use those for toothpicks).
Been sooooo busy these past cpl of week that I haven't gotten round to doing this again till today...too sore to wrk this weekend.
Where's Neils address.....
MAybe we aughta do this with beer next year....lol
Be well
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Brian,
I was wondering the same thing!
Does FHB have hats, t-shirts, or sweatshirts for sale?
I have a friend who would love to have one.
I'll be making them all next week.
T shirts will be $75 CASH!
Hats $45 CASH!
pencils $5 each CASH!
Magazines....oops.....they're already expensive
Be anonymous
!@#%#$^&
My life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Andy,
Well, I do suppose we could print our own. . .
. . . it just wouldn't be the same somehow.
Hi Everyone,
I was talking to Darcy about the FHB pencil, hat, and tee shirt shortage.
We thought that we might be able to induce FHB to make some available.
So, Darcy and I are going to reach up and click on Customer support and ask about it. Sure hope some more of you will join us.
Best regards,
BrianView Image
while you're up there.........t-shirt-XL, no collar shirt (L-give it to smitty). Got the hat, could use the pencil.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Calvin,
Gee, I'd love to have a hat! Where did you get it?
Will you teach me the secret handshake?
Oh, and can I borrow your secret decoder ring? <g>
Edited 11/2/2003 8:07:50 PM ET by darcey
Whoa. AJ took the decoder book with him. Think all the rings batts went dead. How I got the hat? Well, not at liberty to say. They used to give one with a new subscription I think, and have heard the originals are now gone, but also think I remember hearing that they made up more. You need to know someone on the inside, someone who has the key to the hat room. You sweet talk 'em, maybe spring for a beer, or just plain ask.
I would trade a hat in the box for an XL-T in a bag.
And darcy, there's really no secrets.
Just sincere BS'ing.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
"t-shirts"? Did someone say "t-shirts"?
I could use a t-shirt, XL. I'd prefer ash or maroon, but anything would be fine. Oh man, this is great. Hey! You think we could talk them into printing a few long sleeved with a few buttons at the neck? Those are my favorites this time of year. (well if they're gonna give Mikey a collar and lacey sleeves they could spring for long sleeves for those of us exposed to the elements couldn't they?)
"pencils" too? Yeah, that'd be great. Fine Homebuilding pencils. Maybe flat soft lead for framing and foundations and hexagonal ear pencils with about a 2+1/2 lead for trim? What could be a better promotional gift than a few pencils? Now you folks are talkin'.
You know...now that we're talkin'...about every carpenter I know has a cup of coffee in the morning. Think maybe we could get a coffee cup?
Pack it all up in one of those tote bags with a dated book and we be talkin' Christmas.
Where's that sysop guy? He's bound to have a key.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
I'm happily married, cal, you can have my dating book.
I dunno jim, sometimes I think you shoulda gone on tour.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Hi Boss,
Yours arrived, too.
Thanks very much.View Image
I also got a couple of pencils from someone in Des Moines
Don't know your memeber name, sorry if I should.
will mail pencils to you after work today.
Thanks very much
BrianView Image
Bee:
No reason you should know it...but my member name is pretty much the same as the one on the package.<g> Hope they weren't chewed up....they are from Des Moines by way of New York
And you still have my initials. :)
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"Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up.
It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning a lion wakes up.
It knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death.
It doesn't matter whether you are lion or a gazelle:
When the sun comes up, you'd better be running."
Just got back from putting your packet back in the mail with some different pencils in it.
When you mentioned the initials it all came back to me.
We talked in the workboot thread, right?
The one that didn't have much to do about boots.
Thanks again for the pencils.View Image
Bee, I will post four pencils today for: Mr. Beckmann, Mr.Blodgett, Mr.Werner and Mr. Elings. They are all the same swiss make, which I consider the worlds best pencil. I´m anxious to hear about the validity of this statement.
Thank you all for this idea. Mathias Raulf http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Matt,
i'll let you know when they arrive and have them out in the mail the next day to the other fellows.
I have to admit that I really hate to use any pencil that comes from so far away, but maybe I'll us it on a special project.
Talking about it being Swiss made reminds me of a story that my father told me. This would have been decades ago, but the American military
made a drill bit, the smallest ever. Small enough to drill a hole in a human hair. With great pride they sent it to the Swiss to brag. It was returned with a hole drilled in it.
Best regards,
BrianView Image
Heard that whaile I was still a teen.
The way I heard it, they not only drilled a hole in it, they put a machine bolt through it, and put a nut on the bolt.
Stupidity has saved a great deal of men from insanity.
Quittin' Time
Brian, got your pencils yesterday, thanks so much, arrived in perfect condition.
cheers Johnhttp://www.johnwalkerbuilders.com
Matt , your pencils arrived yesterday, they are fine quality and so long! I might have to extend my pencil pocket:)
and we also sharpen with a chisel, thanks for the interesting nails, we are doing a renovation at the moment, the old house is fixed with hand made nails, not as old as yours, about 100 years old.
cheers Johnhttp://www.johnwalkerbuilders.com
The arrival of round shank nails was not cheered by the older carpenters I know. The square shank nails are able to withstand pullout loads much better. I thought about this: Is it that there is more friction to the sides? More contact area. And they would compress the wood more, because they split more (the fibers). Does anybody know more about this?
Same with screw drives: Old timers like the slit screw, the advent of Phillips, then Pozidrive was in the late 60´s over here, now we got TORX (and some offbeat TORX versions). I really like the square drive best (less wear on the driver, less stripping) but this is unavailable in Germany. I import them for my Kreg Jig.
What is unnerving? You have to carry a wide assortment of drivers and bits around. Sometimes four different drives in one project.
The slit screws generally are the least appreciated (cam out...). But they are the most beautiful...and unbeat for getting out when they have been dug deep and covered with paint or spackle. But this is another thread I guess. Enjoy the pencils and geetings to your beautiful country.
Mathias
Matt, not sure on the round verses square more surface area I guess,
down here screws for carpentry are either phillips head or pozzi drive, I try to stick with p.head to make life easy, have used square drive before and like them although they are not common here and are still a bit expensive.
cheers John
http://www.johnwalkerbuilders.com
Neil, Calvin, Barry - got your pencils today, thanks!
Phillips have all but replaced slotted screws here in the States, at least in the building industry. My favorite is that combo head that take either a square drive or #3 phillips driver. First saw them on deck screws 4, maybe 5 years ago. Man, those #3 phillips are a man sized screw tip. Those things don't seem like they EVER cam out, screw gun will stall out before those things slip.
Slotted screws remind me of 3/4 extension drawer slides, I don't know why they even make them anymore.
Thanks Barry, got 'em ystdy and oddly, mailed yours this am.
Jim, did I remember to pack a sticker in the envelop? How much mileage you gonna get on that envelop?
Those combo screws certainly are a good idea. I hate changing out holders. But for deck type screws that show, I really like those FastenMaster, with the turned down heads. Good holding, colored now I believe to common decking colors, and a small head.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Yeah man, got the bumper sticker, thanks. That's one I might even put on my rig.
Haven't seen LeBron play yet but am hearing many good reports. No less an expert than Marques Johnson was singing this guy's praises today. Hope he can stay healthy and sober. That's an awful lot of attention for an 18 year old to handle.
Jim,
I have seen Lebron play 50 or 60 games in person, at the high school level. ( I still regret that a scheduling conflict prevented rich beckman and I from meeting up in Dayton ,Ohio to watch a game last year.
when the Cav's players really understand what Lebron is about----the entire teams level of play will improve considerably. It's gonna take time for NBA players to understand that he IS gonna get them the ball.
You got it straight. Let's hope they all learn a little defense too. Did you watch boykin blast away the other night? 5'-6". Man.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Calvin,
I don't watch that much nba,or college basketball.
I kind of "re-discovered" basketball about 9 years ago when I found myself coaching 3rd grade boys cyo basketball. We would take the kids to see Akron U games---and a year or so later we started taking kids on the team to see St.V-M games( this was years before Lebron showed up). St.V-M was where my wife and I (high school sweeties)went to school and where my son's were destined to go( I have one 9th grader and one 10th grader)
I greatly prefer a GOOD high school game---because they play DEFENSE and use the whole court. I love to see a team so deep in talent they can run a full court press the entire game, I like to see kids hustle,dive on the floor for loose balls,and hurdle the scorers table to try to save an out of bounds ball.enthusiasm for the GAME.
Tho my daughter has left HS, my wife and I still attend the bball games. Pure sport as you noted. St.V-M was sold out the one time they played here 2 yrs ago. And that was at U of Toledo field house, so I'd never seen him play till last yr when they started televising those couple games. It should be interesting watching him develop. Hope the team does as well. How's the St V-M team gonna look this year? We can do this offline if you don't wanna bog down the exchange.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
calvin,
I had season tickets so I was able to get those tickets in Toledo as well.
I haven't seen the St.v-m team play this year yet( season hasn't started)---but what I hear is----the team will run the same kind of game, It won't be a national power,but will be a very good highschool team. Smaller,excellent ball handling.Team is coached by Dru Joyce sr.as the last few years. Dru jr. graduated last year and is playing at akron U-----his younger brother will play as a freshman at St.V-M this year and is reputed to be even better that Dru jr.
historically, this teams full court press for most of the game has won A LOT of games for them. I have watched a LOT of playoff teams' fans the past few years near tears cause their kids couldn't get the ball past half court without a turnover. I love DEFENSE.
Thanks stephen for the background. Pity I didn't know you were up here, would have put out the welcome banner. I think I have your address, I'll get something in the mail to you. By the way, I know akron is a city, but do you know any of the Hallamay's?.........or chrissy hines?........fairmount rings a bell.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Calvin, sorry---I don't know any Hallamays---though they sound like solid Irish types.( the fighting Irish love any vaguely irish sounding name)
Never met chrissy ----although I love her stuff. I especially love they way she is not afraid to point out the negative aspects of change----although some politicians here would disagree with her.
don't know about fairmount-----although there is a modestly prosperous older suburb here called Fairlawn. fairmount might be a golfcourse up cleveland way--------.
BTW, I am sorry that I didn't know you were around Toledo and interested in high school basketball. I had a lot of tickets last year I could of shared with you----you could have seen some amazing stuff.
Well now we know a bit about each other. I'll call you or vice versa if ever the occasion for a good time presents itself. HS bball is just around the corner.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Stephen, thanks for the pencils. Great idea you have on the door hanger, puts your name and talents out there along with the apology. Nicely done.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
I still have plenty of pencils to trade, for anyone who's interested.
jim
Hows about a truck exchange for one month.now theres some commitment and understanding...
Be uhhh....hmmmmm
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I'll trade with anybody for a while.
My truck is a '67 Chevy one ton.
No heat or AC.
Holes in floorboards.
But it has a dump bed..........Men are Like bank accountsWithout a lot of money they don't generate a lot of interest.
Sounds better than my 95 Ford...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Any takers on a 77 Ford 1/2 ton ?On a hill by the harbour
No heat or AC.
Geezzzzzzz///thats what my wife said.....no heat or AC (andy C)
Oh well...yeh can please some of the peeps some of da time but not all da peeps alla da time.......musta been one of dem daze I reckon
Be whatever
Happy new year bro
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Andy, did you get the package I sent?
The one made it to Germany, matt gave me a call. Pretty cool getting a message on the machine from a foreign land..........
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
what? huh? package?My life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Bout a few weeks or more ago, sent pencils out. Matt in Germany got some, didn't hear from the rest so I figured the envelopes went to P.O. heaven. Oh well.
Happy New Year!Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
I got yours, calvin, thanks. Got that bumper sticker too, although I "passed" it on like you suggested, hehehehe.
I'm still holding on to a few...
Email me your address if you would to exchange.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Yeah jim, I know you got the first shipment. I got yours and was burning a couple deb colemans last nite..........under the influence..........lucky I didn't smoke the computer. Good Blues it is......had 'em dancing in the aisles.
I just got a bit concerned about the last attempt with the postal service. I think curly got one, Matt in deutschland ........stephen hazlett, but I'm thinking I haven't heard that andy (no), jb jump, steve merritt, maybe a couple others have received them. That's too bad, nice collection started here. Never thought of international exchange of carpenter pencils ..............fun getting a piece of world-icana. So let me know any of you folks if my package arrived, sorry for not including an email address, figured I'd read it here.
Happy New Year to the greatest bunch of knuckleheads to hit the internet!Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Calvin,
I mailed a package back to you a week or so ago. Let me know in a day or so if nothing shows up----and I will re-mail another one to you.
Stephen
"I still regret that a scheduling conflict prevented rich beckman and I from meeting up in Dayton ,Ohio to watch a game last year."
As do I.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Got a few more pencils to send out..
Email is back up and working...
Send me an address and you get a pencil...
What a trade..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Matt,
I use old hand wrought "rose head" nails as well as new reproduction hand made nails on a regular basis and I would have to say that the reason they hold so well is the sharp point and the tapered shaft. The blunt point on the cut nails breaks the wood fibers and crushes them on the way in. They come back out much more easily. Modern wire nails can't hold as well, but much easier and cheaper to make.
I checked out your web site. Nice.
Curly
Hi Curly, We also use square shank nails for flooring. They have a straight shank and are only produced in Switzerland and Denmark. I special order them directly. Be glad to send you a sample. Thank you for the compliment on the website, it will be updated soon. Mathias http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Hi Jim, pencils arrived safely Thanks,
I'm up for t shirts too although I hope their not like the tiny hats they sold a few years ago, they were so small I thought they were samples. ( too their credit FHB did send out a replacement free of charge)
cheers Johnhttp://www.johnwalkerbuilders.com
John,
Your pencils came today...
Barry,
Yours did, too...
Thanks,
-Pooch
Your black book ???
What's he going to do with a couple tissues ? Blow his nose ?
; )
Stupidity has saved a great deal of men from insanity.
Quittin' Time
Hey Cag,
The pencils arrived today.
Thanks very much.View Image
bee glad they got there safely, I sent out about 10 packages on friday, finally got off my lazy asz and did it lol.
One came back with "not enough postage" or something wrong with it, funny because the lady weighed all of them, can't remember which one, but it will go out again soon...... I was wondering if I was going to get a bunch back in the mail with return to sender on them.
Neil, got your pkg and Imerc's today as I was mailing out the returns to those sent. Next trip to the P.O. will be to you guys. I know the feeling of finally getting off the butt and posting them off.
thanks,Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Hey mine were packaged for a good solid week before I finally got around to takeing them to the post office, compete with that...
Guys,
I have recieved a bunch of the pencils and was keeping the envelopes to keep track of who to send back to. but my wife thought the empty envelopes were trash and out they went. I have Barry Elings, Neil Gaskin, Greg Werner and Greg Fowler's addresses because they just came. Jim Blodgett I have your address and Rich Beckman I have yours from your business card (great idea BTW Rich) but any others, and there are others, I don't have your name's and addresses. I'm sorry but if you could send me an email with your info I'll get those sent out. my email is [email protected]
On a side note the yard I deal with most of the time doesn't have pencils. their prices and service are outstanding so I'm not going to bitch about pencils but that leaves me with 84 lumber pencils that have no address on them. I hope that is okay? if not I'm open to suggestions.Steve
S.J.MERRETTE Carpentry & Construction • Robesonia, PA
Nothing is impossible...It just hasn't been done yet.
Hi Calvin,
Your package arrived today. Thanks for the pencils and the bumper sticker.
I especially liked the BEE GEE Block and Lumber
Years ago my father and I worked together.
We went by GEE BEE Builders.
BrianView Image
Brian and everyone else.
Sent an email to Andy Engel telling him about the pencil exchange. He said that if we send him our address in an email, he will send us a pencil.
As far as anything else, who knows?
Also, sorry I haven't sent the pencils out to anyone yet. I have been able to get some recently with local suppliers names on them. Will try to send them out next week.
And, thanks to those who have already sent pencils to me.
Bryan"Objects in mirror appear closer than they are."
Klakamp Construction, Findlay, Ohio
Good job, Bryan
You're the man!!!
i just sent my reguest off.
Thanks very much,
BrianView Image
Hi Mr. Barry Elings, - I got your two pencils and attached business card from Des Moines, IOWA. What is a CGR? I´ll post yours and the three members in waiting this week to bee, for remailing (german mail is outrageous). You are #4 on the waiting list. Thank you, it is a joy to find this mail type...
Mathias http://www.raulfcarpenters.com
Matt
that was fast delivery.
CGR is Certified Graduate Remodeler. It's a program put on by the Remodelors Council of the National Association of Home Builders.
Enjoy
View Image
"Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up.
It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning a lion wakes up.
It knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death.
It doesn't matter whether you are lion or a gazelle:
When the sun comes up, you'd better be running."
2XL Tall w/ pocket.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
darcy
actually....might just be better.think bout itMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Yo Andy -
Got yer pencils last night in good shape. I thought it was a nice touch that they were pencils that you'd used on your addition.The morale of an organization is not built from the bottom up; it filters from the top down. [Peter B. Kyne]
Sappy? No...
I carry a carpenters pencil in my jeep that I found in my grandfathers garage while I was going through his tools and taking my "inheritance" It's half used and sharp, but won't be used again. Just kept in the Jeep as a reminder of what I have to live up too.
The Count-Down begins, 80 days left
guess thats a lot cheaper than exchanging company tee shirts...OK....I'm in....I'll be sure to get a box of pencils from the yard I chose to get the lumber from for this ol' house....I might even include one 325 year old nail with each....I have about twenty of em now.
Be well
andy
True compassion arises out of the plane of consciousness where I "am" you.
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
you need to be careful with those nails i heard that in those days if they were moving house they would burn the old one down and save the nails as they were the most expensive part of the house
maybe you should save them for your next project???!!!
aleks
only very special BT'ers will get them so they can all have a bit of my house in their house : )
BE old
andyTrue compassion arises out of the plane of consciousness where I "am" you.
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
you'd better be careful you might end up with a black market for them!!
aleks
I'd be willing to give it a try. I'll have to work at it, though. The company I work for gives out pencils, but they're hard to come by. The salesmen snap them up pretty quickly.
Who's gonna work out the details? Like swapping addresses and such?
In some cultures, what I do would be considered normal.
I'm im!
Theresa-Honeydoos
Count me in too if this thing takes offSteve
S.J.MERRETTE Carpentry & Construction • Robesonia, PA
Nothing is impossible...It just hasn't been done yet.
Okay Steve, you're in.
We've been sending pencils back and forth for ten days now.
Glad to have you.
BrianView Image
yeah, looks like I've been asleep in class. ooops. IMERC already contacted me and I'm sending one his way. My email is ...
[email protected]
for those of you too lazy or stupid to use the built in feature. ;)Steve
S.J.MERRETTE Carpentry & Construction • Robesonia, PA
Nothing is impossible...It just hasn't been done yet.
If you guys are e mailin' addresses around, don't forget me! I want to play!
so go into the yard and say I need pncils .. Lots of pencils... This is what is going to become of them...
Got a big handful... Very few addresses showed up.. Go figure..
I ain't got a one yet...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Ok so I just got around to exchanging pencils.....I sent one last week to IMERC and today to Jim B, The Alexander Dawson School to Vanderpooch,Bee, Matt in germany and John Austin.......did I forget anyone that sent me one?????
All had a circa:1680 nail in the envelope as well as the pencil.
Anyway.....if anyone wants to exchange, my address is in the beginning of this thread.
Be lead
andy
My life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Edited 10/11/2003 1:44:04 PM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)
IMERC......I sent you one out a week ago....didn't you get it????
Included was a circa:1680 nail
andy
My life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I've received pencils from IMERC, Bee, and Jim. This is fun. Keep 'em coming!
I'm going to try to figure out where I can get some more local pencils...
-Kit
Vander
You'll crack up when you see my finely built envelope.....looks like a kindergarten kid did it....lol.....I just found it amusing to do.
You never left a real name that I could find, so I jus' sent it to your school addressed to the woodworking shop guy aka VAnderpooch.
Be well
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Andy,
It's Kit Camp, thought it was in there with the school address.
I should get some funny looks when it comes to Vanderpooch.
-Kit
Kit,
Andy might have thought your name was a place to pitch a tee pee.View Image
Three more envelopes went out this morning...
Told my wife about this and she thought it was pretty funny. Bunch of carpenters having "penpals.:
Make it a good Monday.
-Kit
Gentlemen,
Or---I suppose I should say Ladies and Gentlemen as I somehow gather Darcy is a gal------
My wife heard me snickering at the computer over a "bunch of guys that need to get a life"----she wanted an explaination of what my muttering was about-----and when I explained the mechanics of the "pencil exchange"-----well let's just say she thinks it's great. Apparently it reminds her of doing math homework with her Dad's carpenter pencil.
so----Hazlett Roofing & Renovation Ltd. is prepared to enter the exchange. I have about 25 pencils each from 2 different lumberyards( 50 total)
One local yard that's been around for 50 plus years and another that's been around for 80 plus years. In fact my grandpa used to do business with the 80plus year old yard----and at one time had a contract with them to build voting booths back in the depression.
I will be sending out pencils to Darcy,Brian,Jim,Andy,and Kit tomorrow morning.
In addition to pencils---I will send company t-shirts, while supplies last ,to anybody outside of the country who sends me a pencil. I will be re-ordering an older,better style of shirts in the spring and would be happy to swap t-shirts when a larger supply is available.
Stephen E. Hazlett
Hazlett Roofing & Renovation LTD.
1392 Dietz Ave.
Akron ,Ohio 44301
One is on the way.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
You are on the ball today.
Get any back yet?
Did you ever get that Quicktime file to load up?View Image
Stephen, I will send a couple your way tomorrow also.
I think there a re a lot of members that are thinking the same thing.
"Jeez, get a life"
There are several members that I think would have a lot of fun with
The Great Breaktime Pencil Exchange, perhaps they will join in later.
This has turned out to be a lot of fun.
My thought is that it adds a little reality to this cyber group.View Image
Stephen,
Just packed some up for you. They'll go out tomorrow.
Thanks for joining in...
-Kit
I did now. Last Thurs mailbox is empty. Today is like a treasure trove.
Ain't duct tape grand. Thanks Andy.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Really cool idea Jim,
now what are ya gonna do with all of those Home Depot and Lowes pencils folks are gonna be sending in exchange for your GOOD pencils?
Holy smokes. Okay, how about this - if you want me to send you one first, get me your mailing address. I will send one back to anyone who mails me one - make sure to include your handle if you don't post under you real name, okay?
My mailing address is;
Jim Blodgett
PO Box 460
Roy, WA 98580
(never could figure out how to single space lines)
Thanks to everyone who sends one, the more the better. This is gonna be cool.
jim
you might just be able to build a house outta pencils......lolWe're being trained through our incarnations-trained to seek love, trained to seek light,trained to see the grace in suffering
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
ok me 2....a pencil to this ol' house gets one back.
Andy Clifford
26 Goose Hill Rd.
Cold Spring Harbor, New York 11724
PS...anyone that delivers one in person gets to drink a black and tan with me next to the fire in my tipi.
Be well,
andyWe're being trained through our incarnations-trained to seek love, trained to seek light,trained to see the grace in suffering
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Andy, I was just in Cold Spring this past weekend. I might come by and take you up on that Black and Tan.
<<<<Andy, I was just in Cold Spring this past weekend. I might come by and take you up on that Black and Tan.>>>
I'll probably be here all weekend....my phone # is 631 659-3007 if yer in the hood.
Be well
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Andy, just realized that you are in Cold Spring Harbor. I was just in the town of Cold Spring (up state NY). There are times that I come through to L.I. though. I'll keep your info.
L
Andy,
Pencil and nail arrived today, perfect shape all around.
Thanks.
The Arkansas chrome special did fine coming to Missouri. Probably because that's close to home. Duct Tape is King!!View Image
Andy,
You sent me one pencil but I got two when I opened up the envelope. The nail and letter came through ok.
I was suprised how similar the nail is to the house I am working on now. The house was most likely built around the early 1800s . I guess nails were the same for some time.
Used to make them in the family anvil, didn't they?
I got your pencil from the Hamptons and that nail today Andy. Thanks.
Kit - got your note, but no pencil...at least I got some stationary from that school!
Well, I finally got over my procrastinating... And the Cubs are out of the playoffs, so I had a bit more time last night....
So today I have eleven envelopes all set to mail. They go out today to:
Bee, Andy, Crazy Legs, Vanderpooch, Darcy, IMERC, Mathias, Stephen, Bryan, CAG, and jbjbuild.
That's all of the addresses I can find in the thread and in e-mails to me.
My address is:
Rich Beckman
3324 S. 600 E.
Marion, IN 46953
Jim,
I put the time spent procrastinating to good use. I used one pencil for those days and I sent it to you.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool
Oops. I sent out twelve pencils today. I forgot Bud in Florida.
I now have Steve and Calvin's addresses, so those two will go out Monday.
I stuck one of my business cards in the envelopes with the name of the lumberyard and it's full address on the back. I did that because the pencil says only "674-3341 Lumbertown" There is no indication of what part of the country it is in.
Also, I have this nagging thought that one of the envelopes didn't get the business card. Whoever gets that one (if it exists), sorry.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
I still didn't get Calvin's address. I even went back trying to find it in old envelopes and stuff. Did he post it? WTF?
Jim,
got your pencil in the mail yesterday. I don't know if the 2 I sent you got through----but since I got another style of pencil to send out---maybe I will re-mail you a package.
by the time you collect all these pencils from around the country----they will stack up to a big enough pile to set my sheet metal brake on that ya stole!
Andy,----the envelope that I sent to you came back to me shredded and empty----I will re-send ya some pencils.
I have 5 new adresses to send pencils to---try to get those out today
BTW----CAG (Neil)---If you don't have a pencil to send me----a picture of that young girlfriend you are living with will do! LOL
Yours arrived yesterday, Stephen, thanks. Good looking pencils too. (what brake?)
Thanks cal, I'll send yours out this weekend. You too Rich (used a little).
The pencils arrived today. In fine shape. Thanks very much.View Image
Jim,
I got your pencil today. Sounds like a neat lumber yard. I told my wife that if I get enough pencils I'm going to make a shadow box to display them in.....she thinks I'm weird, maybe I am. I'll put yours in the mail Monday.
Jeff
Just sent out my first six pencils yesterday. Padded envelopes, so I hope they survive. Will be sending out more this week. Just got more envelopes. Need to pick up some more pencils. Just put 4 more addresses on my list.Greg
Oh the vicious cycle...
Cool, isn't it...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Yes its cool. Haven't figured out what I going to do with all these pencils.I guess I'll put them in a safe so my carps and helpers don't get a hold of them.Greg
Greg,
Pencils arrived today, thanks very much.
oh, and they were in perfect shape
ThanksView Image
Brian, thanks to you also. I got yours today.
Imerc and Vanderpooch thanks also. Got yours the other day.(forgot to post a thank you)Greg
Hi Greg,
Matt's package arrived today and I just put your package in the mail.
I also tossed in a couple of special pencils from me.
You'll know who sent what when you see them, the pencil from Matt is way longer than any I have ever seen in the States. Matt also sent a hand made nail for each of you. If this little shipment from Buffalo doesn't wreck the postal machines...............
Best regards,
BrianView Image
Thanks for the heads up Brian. I'll be watchin the mail. Ever since I got married last week, all I've gotten has been bills.Greg
Jim,
Hats off to you, I read your post the very first night and never thought it would kick off like it did.
Pencils! who would ever think. Then again, simple things for simple minds. :-) me included. "One measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions"
Yeah, it's been fun. I'm hoping other folks will stumble onto this thread in the coming months and this will kind of go on for a while. I'm surprised at how many people have joined in already. My thanks to everyone.
Lets face, at heart we are all a bunch of geeks sitting in front of PC screen talking shop and BS'ing, a pencil exchange is right up our alley, it's pretty cool to be able to open the mailbox and have something other then junk and bills anyway.
Oh and Shannon, my g/f, says I really need to get a life...
almost forgot why I started this message: Great idea on the pencil exchange...
Edited 11/10/2003 11:25:50 PM ET by CAG
Jim and the Gang,
I have been reading all of the posts on this thread and would like to jump in on the exchange. I'll go back through the thread and get the adresses listed and if anyone would like, plaes e-mail name and address to me at [email protected].
I'll look forward to the mail.
Karl Brachwitz
P.O. Box 223
Birchrunville PA 19421
Thanks, Karl (curly)
You havw some on the way in the morning.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Thanks,
I just copied down all of the addresses of those who posted and will e-mail for more.
Thank you, Karl
Got a package with your name on it right here, Karl. (what about Moe and Larry?) nyuck, nyuck, nyuck
thanks,
My business partner tagged me with Bubba, and Curly.
There is already a bubba in here though.
CurlyHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Hi Karl,
Welcome board the great Pencil Exchange.
I will also be sending a package your way tomorrow.
Not sure if you picked up on it, but don't mail pencils in regular letter or business envelopes. They won't make it through the automated sorting machines.
Bubble mailers work the best. I just reuse them whenever I get pencils in.
Thanks again for joining in.
BrianView Image
Bee,
Thanks, I caught the sub-thread.
I guess now I will have to learn how to write. :-)
CurlyHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Bee - got that package a couple days ago with Matt's pencil, a red leaded pencil, and one I DID NOT steal from you (must have been on the floor of Stephen's pick-up that day I "saw" it at the post office). Thanks.
Thanks, Matt.
You got "Pine Pitch Hands"?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Jim,
Thanks for letting me know the package arrive safely.
Try that red lead pencil out. The lead is soft and it is much more like a china marker. Great on any vinyl products, poor on metal. and very colorful on wood. You just have to sharpen it a lot, and a dull blade pulls the lead out.
BrianView Image
"...vinyl"?
Hey now......
let's keep it friendly here.
I live and work in a small town in Southwest Missouri.
You gotta work with what the customer's want.
I can safely say that 95% of the homes built in a four county area have vinyl siding on them. And IMHO, it beats the heck out of 12" masonite lap.
The local lumberyard can get Hardi, but it is a special order item. Big deal to get a price quote on it.
Just checked...makes a great mark on Azek, too.
have a great day, raining and cold hereView Image
Hey, don't get me wrong, man, you gotta do what you gotta do to feed the little ones. I apreciate that better than most people.
I just don't know what marking up stuff in the landfill has to do with it, that's all.
Rick,
Guess what I found in the mail today?
Yup, a pencil from Lumbertown.
Thank you kindly,
Yours are on the way.
Curly-Hand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
GregF
I got a ticking package today with your name for the return address. The Post Mistress was interested in the ticking but I told her not to worry. Just some old watch inside. HEHE
Yours is on the way,
Thanks, KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Hi Karl,
Sorry that I have been remiss in letting you know that your package arrived safely.
Thanks so much,
BrianView Image
Got a couple of Fine Home Building Pencils in the mail today.
Thanks Andy E. They are a wonderful addition to my growing pencil collection.View Image
Brian,
Got your pencils.
Yours should be there any min.
Thank you,
KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Curly,
I just found your post this morning. I don't have time to get a pencil in the mail today, but it will go out tomorrow.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Rich,
Thanks, Iook forward to it and will return in kind.
Karl (curly)Hand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Hi Greg,
Did the pencil that I forwarded on from Matt ever get there?
Best regards,
BrianView Image
Got your pencils yesterday, Greg, thanks. Nice to see a round one.
I got one from my masonry supplier yesterday that had red lead. Only got one and I'm keepin it for myself. If I can swindle a couple more i'll send them out.Greg
Oh sure, Jim get's a round pencil!
;)
I've recieved pencils so far from Gwerner, Bee, Jim, and Beckman, all in good condition.
Thanks all.
BTW, when my g/f found out why I was recieving padded envelopes and sending them out, she couldn't stop laughing....
cag thats funny cause today she went to the mailbox before i got home.called me on the cell and said uh dont know what you just got in the mail but its kinda wierd.padded envelope from jim blodgett thanks yours will be out tommorow,andbrian snipes same to you and a copy of the gemplers in priority mail .
told her about the pencil thing she laughed and shook her head.oh well lol
Sorry, I only had a few of the round ones. First come, first serve.Greg
hope you know I was just kidding ;)
I know you were just funnin', But if I had some more round ones everybody would've got some. I don't use that supplier anymore so I can't even get some for myself.Greg
Jeff,
Pencils are in the mail to you.View Image
Thanks Bee. I'll send yours right out.
Jeff
SHAZLETT, GregF, IMERC & Rich Beckman I received your pencils today. All arrived in great condition.
Thanks guys, I'm addressing the envelopes now and sending them out tomorrow (Tues)
Jeff
Did you post your address, my first batch is going out tomorrow?
Yes, it's post 192.
Thanks, Jeff
Jeff,
Your package arrived today,
thanks very much.
BrianView Image
Yours showed up here today.
Thanks. They were in excellant condition.
The PO must be showing some extra respect to padded envelopes.
You are JB Jump aren't you??? LOL
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Brian,
Received your pencils last week. I will send out some this week. Trying to find pencils with a local yard on it. I have a few from a local masonry supplier. Hope that's OK.
Thanks!
Also received pencils from Blodgett and Hazlett. Thanks guys!
All of them made it fine."Objects in mirror appear closer than they are."
Klakamp Construction, Findlay, Ohio
Anything is fine with me. Glad they made it okayView Image
Jim, sorry if I have been lax in getting you the address. Here you go.
And thanks brian, I see now how to package for no damage (I think). calvin stewart
quittintime
p.o. box 351
maumee, ohio 43537-0351
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Hi Rick,
The pencil landed today,.
Thanks
and I mailed back to you today, also.
Edited 10/20/2003 6:52:52 PM ET by bee
AS soon as I can get some more pencils, I'll remail to those of you who got an empty envelope.
We are adding on to the school right now, co there is a large general contractor and lots of subs running around. Maybe I can get some cool ones that way.
I'll keep you all posted.
I'm going to send my first batch out this weekend, is there any concensus on the best way to package these things, I was thinking small padded minela (sp) envelopes with tape across the top.
So how have the pencils that weren't shreaded by the USPS packaged?
CAG,
I think the padded half sheet size envelope seems to work the best. Both the pencils I got from Jim Blodgett and Bee were intact in this type. Tape em to some cardboard. Someone posted that this size doesn't go through the sorter like standard envelopes.
I'll put you on my list when I get some more pencils...
-Kit
Hey gang, I just got back from vacation today so I'll be gathering and mailing pencils this week. for those of you who want my address
Steve Merrette
48 Patterson Drive
Robesonia, PA 19551
Steve
S.J.MERRETTE Carpentry & Construction • Robesonia, PA
Nothing is impossible...It just hasn't been done yet.
IMERC and Vanderpooch,
Both packages of pencils arrived Saturday in good condition , hope the ones I sent you guys are ok.
Thanks John Austin
Edited 10/19/2003 11:14:55 AM ET by JohnA
Company advertising pencils count? Like tool mfgs and such.
(Besides the yards)
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Imerc,
You bet, anything goes.
Dinosaur,
Round is fine.
John Walker,
We can use them for making the bottoms of joists.
Guess they might be metric....we'll adjust.
I'm putting pencils in the mail to Jim and Andy tomorrow.
and I'll add another addy to the starting list.
Brian Sipes
PO Box 1553
Buffalo, MO 65622
or post your address or send me an email with it and I'll mail first.
Whoever dies with the most stuff....Wins!!!!View Image
Now I gotta sort pencils...
Hope I got enough to go around... Different ones that is.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
My company doesn't have company logo pencils, only keychains. They are metal though, so they can be engraved on the back. In fact, the only pencils I have say: Cheap Joe's Art Stuff
Would a keychain be a fair exchange for a pencil?
(The only t-shirts they give me are size small.)
I'll exchange any trinket for whatever for as long as the supply last.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Okay, email me (any of you all) and I'll send you one or three. Forgot to mention, they're fairly small. Good thing, I can't stand huge keychains!
Pencils for 6 went out today....
Thought there was to be mor participation???
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I sent out three today.
Being the relativly new guy around here, I feel a little odd about asking for people's addresses.
Andy, Jim, and Darcy...the pencils are coming, the pencils are comingView Image
Email me as to where you want them sent...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Thanks bee,
Mine will go out Friday, (when I get my car back from the shop). Sorry for being the late one. . .
I'll participate as soon as I can scrounge up some pencils. I hate to ask for any if I'm not sure I can send any in return.
The company I work for is pretty tight with pencils. Last time they had some made I got 6 to give out. Had to steal a few from the salesmen so I'd have some to give out.....................(-:Joan of Arc heard voices, too.
Got 2 flavors left and not too many of them.
Got 4 unopened boxes of plain no-name.
Don't have your address either
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I ain't posting my address here. I've sent it in an email.
BTW - Those of you who have sent pencils out - What the best way? Padded envelope? Or something else ???Heck is where people go that don't believe in gosh.
Boss,
I don't know about the best way, but I just took a piece of cardboard and folded in half so it was about the size of a business envelope.
Stapled three sides, slid the pencil in, stapled in closed, and then taped the edges so noone gets hooked on a staple leg. Not as simple as dropping it in a padded one, but it cost nothing.
Boss, if you will email your address, I'll get yours out to you.
Best regards,
Brian
Edited 10/1/2003 12:55:18 PM ET by bee
I just got back from the post office - 49 cents to mail one pencil inside a business size envelope anywhere in the lower 48. As soon as David's gets here from Alaska, I'll know how much that costs.
Just address the envelope, put in a pencill, stick a couple stamps on it and drop it in the mail box. Couldn't be much easier. Sure hoping to get some from folks in the coming months.
"As soon as David's gets here from Alaska, I'll know how much that costs.
"
We are, actually, one of the states. Not that we talk that way. When people say, "I'm going outside", they don't mean the backyard. Or, "You going to the states this winter?"
Two pencils and a bit of cardboard weighed an ounce even, but I thought I remember oversized and non-flat things being a minium 2-ounce rate.
David Thomas Overlooking Cook Inlet in Kenai, Alaska
I used a padded envelope (got a bunch) but the PO will be sure to destroy most and severly damage the rest no matter how you pack 'em.
BTW,, 11 (mailings) went out as of this AM.
Boss you are #9,#9,#9,#9... (Pink Floyd)
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Boss,
I got your address and will mail tomorrow.
No worries about when you get some to send.
But, in your email you said,
"I'll try to email some pencils back as soon as I can, but I'm having some trouble coming up with any so far."
If you figure out how to email them, you are going to be to busy counting your money to mess with us.
Good luck with that!!!!! View Image
Boss you are #9,#9,#9,#9... (Pink Floyd)
And here I thought The Beatles wrote that songMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
OK. I got pencils. I'll be sending them to those who have posted their addresses this weekend.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Take an email with an address.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
"Take an email with an address."
I'm assuming that's a question.
Yes. E-mail an address and I'll send a pencil.
[email protected]
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Couldn't have been the Beatles.....
They didn't do any thing.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Had to say it ...
You had to go home and sak your wife what your address is.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Hi Darcy,
I put a package in the mail for you today, A couple of different pencils and a trinket.
brianView Image
I've received pencils from IMERC and Stephen. Thanks guys, they came in excellent condition.
IMERC,
What is the origin of I-MERC? I didn't think much of it when I thought it was just your nickname on a web site. But now that I see it is the name of your business....
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Industrial Mercenary..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Thanks Brian,
This pencil exchanged has sure changed the way I usually feel about my mail! Now I'm skipping out to the box with child-like anticipation. . .<g>
Trinket? What trinket?
Well, after being VIOLENTLY sick Monday night and all day Tuesday, I get to school today and there are four envelopes waiting there for me. Cool!
Pencils from Rich, Stephen, and Greg Werner, and Greg Fowler!
I'm going to find some pencils with Las Vegas on them today no matter what.
Got to ask all these trades that are wandering around school...
-Kit
Darcy,
Can't tell you, it's a surprise.
You'll let me know when it arrives, won't you?
brian
Tell Lucy that Sally says Hi.View Image
Brian,
Your package arrived yesterday, and thanks to your generous contribution to my new pencil collection, I will never again suffer from pencil-envy! <g>
Thanks for all of the trinkets, too! What more could a gal-carpenter ask for in her toolbelt?
Plan to expect a reciprocation from me soon!
PS Lucy say to tell Sally, "Woof woof, ruff, ruff, ruff and wag, wag, wag"
Edited 10/25/2003 6:13:13 PM ET by darcey
Darcey,
I'm very happy that the package arrived safely.
Glad you liked the trinkets,
You didn't think it was an odd lot of stuff?
From these pictures, you should be able to tell how happy Sally is to have a new virtual pack mate.
Catch you later,
brianView Image
Mr gwerner... Your pencils arrived in fine condition...
Thank you...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Rich .. The post Office took sympathy on you package... You pencils arrive unscathed..
Thanks
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
3 for 3... Thanks for the pencils. The collection begining to look pretty good...
Do you suppose that if I made up some copies of the door hanger and hung every where I go you then could branch out some..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Edited 10/25/2003 11:17:34 PM ET by IMERC
I think this is you. From Davison, MI..
Thanks for the pencils.. Your pakaging was bullet proof..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
John W. from Australia...
That is some road you live on... Oh the fishing... DROOL!!!
You pencils arrived sakely .. Thanks...
Hope you catch this .. prospero wouldn't let me post direct to you....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Every thing arrived copistetic... Thanks.
You guys even think out your pencils... Thanks Matt for all the effort you went thru to get me the pencil. Those nails went right into the collectables box.
BTW.. Toured your site, That is some serously outstanding work you do...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Just wanted to mention that I haven't forgotten those of you who've sent me pencils. I even have enough to send you some back.
But between working and farming, it's been tough for several weeks. I've been working my regular job from 5:30 to about 2:00, then farming until dark or after. Doesn't leave much time for messing with other stuff.
Hopefully, this week will be a little slower due to some rains, and I'll get 'em headed out.STRESSED is just DESSERTS spelled backward.
Framing?
don't tell me you got another wild hair and you're building another one?
and e-mail me your address, I got some pencils going out mon/tue.
That was FARMING, not FRAMING.
Can't you college students spell ???.........................(-:You look like hell. Is that the style now?
Well Boss your remembering showed today. the PO even remembered to be kind and deliver your package list it was intended.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Hi Barry,
Matt's package arrived today and I just put your package in the mail.
I also tossed in a couple of special pencils from me.
You'll know who sent what when you see them, the pencil from Matt is way longer than any I have ever seen in the States. Matt also sent a hand made nail for each of you. If this little shipment from Buffalo doesn't wreck the postal machines...............
Best regards,
BrianView Image
Hi Jim,
Matt's package arrived today and I just put your package in the mail.
I also tossed in a couple of special pencils from me.
You'll know who sent what when you see them, the pencil from Matt is way longer than any I have ever seen in the States. Matt also sent a hand made nail for each of you. If this little shipment from Buffalo doesn't wreck the postal machines...............
Best regards,
BrianView Image
Hi Rick,
Matt's package arrived today and I just put your package in the mail.
I also tossed in a couple of special pencils from me.
You'll know who sent what when you see them, the pencil from Matt is way longer than any I have ever seen in the States. Matt also sent a hand made nail for each of you. If this little shipment from Buffalo doesn't wreck the postal machines...............
Best regards,
BrianView Image
Hi Darcy,
Matt's package arrived today and I just put several packages in the mail.
I also tossed in a couple of special pencils from me.
You weren't on Matt's list this time, but I had a couple of pieces of software that I wanted to send to you, So, while I was in a mood to mail some stuff, I sent them your way. If this little shipment from Buffalo doesn't wreck the postal machines...............
Warm regards,
Brian
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Hi Rick
Did the pencil that I forwarded on from Matt ever get there?
Best regards,
BrianView Image
Brian,
Yes. The package arrived. I see you recycled Calvin's folded cardboard. Sorry I have been remiss in acknowledging it's arrival. I've been putting most of my computer time into catching up some of my accounting...end of the year getting close.
Obviously, I am now considered to have stolen the green pencil from you?? First time I've had my victim voluntarily mail the loot.
And the very nice red pencil is from Matt. Thanks Matt.
And the white pencil is, I'm guessing from Brian.
If so, that makes four pencils from Brian. Thank-you...and thanks for forwarding Matt's.
I'm keeping a log of addresses on everyone who sends me a pencil. If I find myself out of town and near a different yard, I'll try and get more.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Edited 11/22/2003 9:28:42 PM ET by Rich Beckman
Karl,
I received your package today. Thanks for the pen. So I guess I am now in possesion of a second stolen item. Hope the police don't stop by to peruse the collection.
Good pencil and nice business card.
Did you have to pay for those pens with the typo??
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Talkin' to yourself again, Rich. Better lay off those books for awhile.
Hey. You been listening to that Blues show Saturday mornings right after Car Talk on NPR? Man oh man, one of the high points in my weekly routine.
"Talkin' to yourself again, Rich. Better lay off those books for awhile."
It's the books?!?!? I'd of never thought of that, and I just had a long chat with myself on the subject. Thanks for the tip.
"You been listening to that Blues show Saturday mornings right after Car Talk on NPR? Man oh man, one of the high points in my weekly routine."
I'm not sure the local NPR stations here carry that show (unless it is the middle of the night.
But I think it was on Saturday mornings about ten years ago or so. I do remember listening to an NPR Blues show on Saturday mornings while doing work in the back yard. That was a great show.
I was at Calvin's yesterday and he played a Eddie Kirkland CD. Really nice Blues. I'm gonna have to look further into Eddie.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Mighty nice to have you and Debbie visit, Rich. Would you fwd davids email add., the one I've got doesn't look too current.
You held up your end of those doors. Sorry we didn't have time to have lunch at Legs and Eggs. You'd have liked that place. Helps you think about your horseshoe game. Pardon me, but do you have any saccharine?
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Rich,
I ordered those pens thru the internet. I typed the order into the order form the wrong way. It was my fault so I did not feel right trying to get another 450 for free. It is kind of fun to see if anyone catches the typo.
An old client of mine did the art work for my co. I get a lot of complments on the cards and the letterhead.
Thank You,
Curly, the worlds best proofreaderHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Hey Karl - FINALLY got myself together and sent your package out today. Geez, yours arrived about 2 weeks ago and I just couldn't seem to focus long enough to open it and reply. Thanks for the pen (had to read it about 17 times to fing the typo) and pencil - nice business card, too. You do a lot of hand hewing?
You anywhere near New Ringold?
Thanks for the message Jim. I live in SE PA. 35 miles East of Philly.
Depending on the project I may hewn quite a bit. Then I can go for a year or two and not even touch one of my axes.
A client of mine did the art work for the cards and letterhead about 12 years ago. Kinda in the style of Eric Sloane.
Not sure where New Ringgold is. Rings a bell, but can't place it. Of course that could just be those little men in my head playing a tune.<g>
C Ya
Hand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Curly ...
Last Tues when I picked up mail it wasn't there....
Today it was...
Your pen and pencil arrived finally.
By what can be read from the post marks starting in PA. It was then post marked in Mobile, AL. Some how found it's way for a post mark in Seattle - on to Denver and then dropped south to Colorado Springs. Now to me. Every thing was in perfect condition.
Amazing how far one stamp will take some thing. Think geography lessons or an up dated map for the USPS are in order?
BTW the pen fits well and writes nicely. I'll have no problem ignoring the typo. Make a few myself.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Hey! Our son is over in Austria for the school year, right? So Kathy and I sent him a Christmas package a few weeks ago. We talk on the phone every Sunday, and the first week it's "...we sent your package".
The next week it's "...did your package arrive?" "Not yet."
Next call - "...gee, package still hasn't shown up."
After about a month it's - "Your package finally arrived. There's marking on it that say it went through customs in Australia (then Austria)!"
We got quite a chuckle out of that one.
Edited 12/7/2003 11:11:48 AM ET by jim blodgett
Probably should bone up on your penmanship jimbo.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
hehehe, yeah, you got that right.
Last time he was over there he sent me a t-shirt with a picture of a kangeroo on a traffic sign that says "No Kangeroos in Austria". Pretty funny.
Been meaning to e mail you, man. Tough game last week, hard to watch even. Indians doing anything around the old hot stove?
e-mail away bud, thinking of going out and cutting some wood. Baking the slovenian favorite today too! You haven't lived till you've tasted bigcals (mostly joyce's) potica.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
I'm a wanderer ohohh! I'm wanderin' down the street, yeah yeah.
Sorry sir, but we can not award you frequent flier miles for this journey. Homeland security and all.
CurlyHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
For the length of time it took it never got near an aircraft.
Nice pen...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Steve,
Thanks for your package. It came last week but I fell behind on reply and many things. My Dad died last week so I just sort of dropped out for a bit. Back in the saddle again. I like your door hanger!
Thanks again, KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Calvin,
Thank you for your pencils. They arrived safe and sound. Now about that $100 bill I found in your envelope.
Thank you, KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
JB Jump,
Thank you for your pencils. had enough rain. Cats and dogs laying all over the place here.
Thanks, KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Jim,
Thank you for your package. Everything was in good order. The jam was yummy. My wife liked the choclates too.
Thanks, KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Hey everyone, Some of you have sent me pencils & I haven't forgotten, just busy as all hell with the semester winding down and work is swamped. To anyone who has sent me a pencil and remembers doing it, and has not recieved one from me let me know who you are and I'll send one back here really soon...
anyone still intereted in exchanging pencils with the glorious state of kansas let me know also.
I've had second thoughts curly. Forget the bill for a hundred bucks, I feel generous. You can have those pencils for free.
Seriously, I'm sure all the folks here send condolences to you on the loss of your dad.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Sorry to hear about your Dad.
Hope you're coping well.Intelligence is like a river: the deeper it is, the less noise it makes.
Mr. Hog,
Thanks for the note. We are well, considering. Mom had to put the dog down last week. That will be enough of that for now I hope!!
Happy New Year!!!
KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Hi B.E.E.
Did the pencil that I forwarded from Matt ever get there?
Let me know, K?
BeeView Image
hey bee and anyone else
I'm still in NY..won't be home till thanksgiving. But I hear there are a bunch of packages in my mailbox.
Let you know how they arrived when I'm home
thanks..barry
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"Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up.
It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning a lion wakes up.
It knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death.
It doesn't matter whether you are lion or a gazelle:
When the sun comes up, you'd better be running."
Hi Marty, could I ask you a favor? How much are Camel-non-filters over your place for a carton nowadays? Just curious... Mathias
"Cause he can´t be a man cause he does not smoke the same cigarettes as me"; The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the devil
"Life in the fast lane" by Steve Miller...
Edited 10/28/2003 5:40:56 AM ET by Matt
32$ a carton most every place. 28$ wholesale. 22$ distributor. 15$ off the back of a truck.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I've got a few nice ones. They're from the yard that my dad, and grandfather, and great grandfather owned. Closed in the '80s when interest rates went through the roof. Not giving those up though! Other yards here are too cheap to give out a decent pencil, especially now that HD is in town. So I guess I'm out. Great idea though!
Brudoggie
Got a pencil from Buffalo, MO yesterday. Cool! (would that be one hump, or two?)
I got one from Buffalo, MO yesterday too....
May I make a suggestion?
When you send out the pencils say what your online screen name is here....I know most of you guys real names but not everyones....Now who was that from Buffalo MO???
Edit: OK.I re-read the posts.I see it came from Bee.....thanks bee!!
My yard parted with a dozen pencils so they'll go out this weekend.
Be well all
andy
My life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Edited 10/3/2003 8:40:31 AM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)
I got a grand total of 4 pencils from one of the salesmen yesterday.
Guess I'll decide which 4 of you guys I like the best and send 'em out this weekend......................(-:Plenty of lead in the old pencil... and I only write to one person. [Rod Stewart, 50, on his plans for more kids with his wife, Rachel Hunter, 25]
I may find some round pencils from a family yard. But I don't get there I'd be happy to send a bumpersticker from Ohio. Those of you who stay outta the bigbox's could consider this your vocal protest while doing your business. These were put out by the Ohio Lumbermans Association whose members come from the local yards. Email your address to [email protected]Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
I've got a line on some carpenter pencils with Red lead.
Anybody ever seen them?
BrianView Image
Red lead? I've been on crews that used one color chalk to make corrections - so say you were framing away and came to two different snapped lines, you'd know which was the correct one to work to. You suppose that's what red lead is for too?
Never saw a red carpenter's pencil. Hey! You suppose that's what they use in Eastern Europe?
Just picked up a box of pencils this morning. Will be mailing on Monday, I think.Greg
Found a few more pencils....
Any one want one email me and let me know where to send them.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Greg,
There is a package on it's way to you, too.
BrianView Image
alright Brian. Will wait until I get it so I can veiw how to mail so's the p.o. doesn't beat the crap outta it. Thanks.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
"calvin"?
Calvin post his address? Hmmm?
Well Jim, sort of. I used the QT p.o.box. Never want "you know who" to show up in my driveway.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Who?
What's up with those Browns? Geez, they're supposed to be lowly expansion fodder for the rest of the league. I see your man Kenny Lofton is up to his usual post season high jinx. I am begrudgingly becoming a fan.
Sorry for the temporary highjack all... Not a total highjack though I am interested in getting in on this pencil exchange, so hows it work, yeah I know you send a pencil you get one, so who wants one?
Jim, I couldn't remember what thread you had your sign question in, here's a pic of the type we use at work, this one is in for a little refurbishing, and I suddenly realized I am not that great of a photographer so it doesn't show much detail,
All in all though, it's not exactly very ornate anyway, keeps it cheap to replace when some moron steals one
I can post a picture of the drive in steaks, but they sell them almost every hardware or lumber yard around here, so you probably know what they look like.
My only advice is to cut them down, I believe they come around 2' long which is a real pain not only in driving them, but the real pain is pulling them if the ground hardens around them. I cut ours down to around 15 inches and they seem to hold just fine.
I want one of those kansas pencils.
email me your address and I'll get it started.View Image
Awwww #### here too.
Andy C.... Your envelope came shredded. The note almost unreadable. No nail or pencil. Rust stains on the note though. Sorry to see this.
Bee... Yours arrived in fine health. Those 6x9 padded envelopes worked well. I sent the envelope on to Canada.
Jim Blodgett yours came in too and survived unscathed... Hurray!!!! Getting some milege from those fancy envelopes. They seem to work just fine.
Now if I only had some more addresses to send off to.
Hello England. New Zealand, Japan, Nova Scotia, Canada and all other points.
Email me and I'll get one off to you.
Note... Some of the names I sent to.... I couldn't match screen names to real names..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Got two from you today, in good shape, going to get some of those envelopes tomorrow at office depot and will mail mine out.
Thanks CAG, that's nice looking. What do you do if the ground isn't level? Post your address and you'll get pencils from all over - Alaska, Georgia, Ohio, Colorado, Michigan, Washington...but...um...the sled dogs must be on strike up in New England and Canada.
Andy - still no pencil here, bro, no nail either.
I DID get a pencil yesterday from Tacoma (20 miles up the road) though. Cool.
i have some from the yards here and in nc if anyone is interested,mostly flat ones
John Leach
24 brenda ave
leesburg fla 34748
Hi Bud,
I'll have a couple on the way to you by days end.
Thanks for joining in.View Image
They're on the way.... Sortta....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Jeez, I can just see it on the Evening news.
Terrorist plot to destroy the US Postal System.
"Unknown terrorists, in a plot to destroy the postal system have begun sending packasges with pieces of wood and nails to destroy the postal sorting machines. Packages have been mailed from all over the US,although some do get thru the machines."View Image
I'm in, just got some pencils today.
Neil Gaskin
837 Michigan Apt 5D
Lawrence, KS 66044
#### damn son of &%$@
Just typed a long reply about the post stakes, and it got prospero'd
so here goes again.
Picture of the stake I am talking about below. (Picture will come as soon as I figure out how to clear my available space here, just been told I have exceded it?)
Ok, so the post stakes keep the sign level, since there are two you just have to drive one deeper to compensate for the other, or vise versa if you wasn't to look at it that way. Don't EVER drive either of them totally into the ground you need at least a few inches to grab on to to pull them. At least in any resemblance of an easy manner. Occasionally if the sign has been in the ground for a while in hard clay or something it's easier to get a car screw jack to pull them out. Usually I'll hook a length of 2x4 under the tabs to use as a lever.
Not all stakes are created equal, the ones made out of thinner metal do not hold up, HD carries the thin ones out here, the lumber yard has thicker walled ones.
Setting the sign plumb and level, at least reasonably is a PITA. Figure on 20-30 minutes once you finally got a system down. Heres mine:
put them on the sign, not attached just inside of it and figure where you want the sign, angle etc. You could just find center to center and measure, but I don't bother.
start the posts in the ground and drive each one a little at a time, 3-4" then check the stake for level and plumb, if the steaks are not level and plumb the sign won't be either and it's a bitch to adjust after you drive them all they way down. 3-4" adjust, 3-4" adjust, 3-4" adjust....
carry some 2x around to place ACROSS THE TOP of the stake, don't EVER be tempted to use a scrap of 4x4 or even 2x4 inside the stake to beat on with the sledge. It will not come out, just mashes and spreads it self out (Did it once and had to drill a bunch of holes and chisel out the wood because it was so wedged in)
I keep meaning to have a jig fabricated to slip inside of the stake made out of metal 1/2" or thicker plate to handle the abuse and keep the proper spacing etc. You'll eat up a lot of wood banging on it driving these in, so take a couple few pieces with you, not just one.
Once you get the stakes in, don't use the little tab things on the side which are meant for bolts to clamp the sign in they do not spring back and they only chew up the post. Some of the stakes come with holes in the side, if not drill some in and just put a few screws in. The insides of the stakes are bigger then 3 1/2 x 3 1/2 so carry some shims with you to make your final adjustments, you can also put some cut up shims in the bottom if you're not completely level.
Boss always says, No reason to have a sign if it's not level and plumb, cause if you can't put a sign in level and plumb, why should anyone trust you to build that way.. Some truth in that, but I still curse everytime I hear it.
Have I mentioned this is PITA?
Well it's not really that bad once you learn what not to do, sorry for the length but I thought I'd try to warn you of every problem and "trick" I've learned. Apparently setting signs is closer to rocket science then it is to basket weaving.
Well I sent out 6 packages yesterday----one came back returned to sender---the one destined for Brian Sipes.
I goobered up a re-packaging job and sent it back out.
In the meantime I got a couple dozen more pencils from a "new" lumberyard---new to me anyhow as it is about 45 minutes away and dates back to 1889.
I guess I should send those out as well---but I am kinda afraid to go to the post office again----I hate to think what will be stolen from my truck NEXT trip!
I knew theives were stupid, but broad daylight at a post office, someone had to see it.
I could have got some from a lumber yard thats been around since about that time, except some dipsh!t decided to take a torch to the place a few days ago. I'm not sure if it is open or not, I think only half burned, but I have to assume they're taking a few days/weeks off to clean up a bit.
I'll send out a couple good Pennsylvania pencils to you tommorrow.Greg
I swear to you Stephen, I was in the shop ALL morning.
Prospero seems to have something against me posting a picture even though I've deleted about half of my attachments, if you're interested in the picture of the type of stake I am talking about I can e-mail it to you, if you know what I am talking about then it doesn't matter.
I have a few round ones from a cool lumber yard here in Cincinnati called "Hyde Park Lumber"
I will send one to anyone who sends me one. Be sure to include your name and address or just include a business card.
JB Jump Construction Co.
1059 Pelican Drive
Cincinnati, Ohio 45231
JB,
I'll put a pacage in the mail this evening.
Thanks for joining in.
BrianView Image
Your welcome Brian. Be sure to include your business card or address and I'll send one back.
Jeff
Some just left and are on their way.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Got your pencils yesterday. They survived, but the envelope didn't look too well. Will be sending a couple out your way tomorrow.Greg
CAG makes a good point. I'll add to that, that I bet they have cameras all around the parking lot so I bet if a cop really wanted to do his job he could find those prigs on tape!
Thanks foor the pencil by the way
be well
andy
PS. I'll be sending some more out this weekend and try to send another one to IMERC in a bubble envelope.My life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Well I must say, I've a pretty good collection of addresses to send pencils and keychains to, but yours is the only address I've seen with:
"#### damn son of &%$@" after the zip code.
Do all of the people where you live have to include this? <g>
only when they are a little pissed at the system here ;)
Sucess... The PO decided to spare us and do the job they are suppose to. Thaks .
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Calvin.
Got a package in the mail to you today.View Image
........Got a pencil from Buffalo, MO yesterday. Cool! (would that be one hump, or two?).......
Hi Jim,
Didn't know what humps you were talking about.
Then I figured you meant the address label.
One hump of course. I collect Zippo lighters and Camel cig. logos were my favorite. I amassed a huge collection, about 220 different ones.
Sold 'em, got screwed by a lighter "buddy", yadda, yadda yadda.View Image
How many Home Depot pencils should I mail to you? ;)
Got pencils from Alaska and Colorado yesterday. Thanks, you guys.
Hey IMERC, my mailing address is back in the beginning of this thread. Send me a pencil and I'll reciprocate man.
Thanks everybody, keep 'em coming. (I was thinking those pencils from Australia or New Zealand might come in handy for marking the bottoms of things)
Thanks for the pencil, Brian! I received it yesterday! It was a treat!
I'll try to send you one from our Meeks, too!
As far as smaller pencils go, I usually use round ones, often from my ten-year-old's pencil box. Because most of them are pink or flowered, they rarely make it to anyone else's toolbelt! hee hee
Darcy,
You are more than welcome. I didn't realize that Meeks stores ranged all the way to west coast. That would be cool to have one from your local store.
I was going through some older threads an ran across a picture of you.
You'd make a very pretty addition to any jobsite. IMHOView Image
Thanks, what I lack in shoulder strength, I try to make up for with enthusiasm and my desire to learn! <g>
What thread ?
: )
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
Hi Luka,
Hope this will work for you to find it.
The name of the thread is "workin' for a livin'".
You were pretty distracted in that thread.
The was a Porter Cable 743 (lefty) and a hat that you liked that belonged to Goldhiller that you liked and everyone here had one like it except you and me. (did you ever get that Fedora you were wanting?)
31775.112 was the message that darcy posted her picture in.
Hey, you the puter whiz here, how in the world do you bookmark a thread?
I've tried it several times and it just doesn't work for me.View Image
I get the feeling that that pic of Darcy is not exactly up to date.
; )
Imerc sent me a panama hat. It's a pretty good hat. Not the same, but fairly close. I like it.
I am wearing it in the quakefest pictures. (The real pictures, not the doctored ones. Someone doctored a fedora in there, and then I got comments in email about the great hat. LOL)
Works just fine for me. I just bookmark the page while the thread is open.
: )
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
Luka,
I saw those 'fixed" up pictures. It was a fine looking hat.
You should not give up on getting one.
It's one of those hats that not just everyone can get away with wearing.
Don't think it would work for me.
Maybe if we ask really nice, Darcy will give us an updated picture.
Maybe something with her nail bags on.
Luka, are you trading pencils with us? I need your address, K?
And while I am rambling on, what am I going to have to do to get a copy of the legendary "carpenter's helper" picture.View Image
do you mean this one?better get it quick seems to be good censor material
Got it, but this will disappear pretty quick, too.
Not sure if that is the one I have seen them talking about or not but thanks.View Image
Tell them what happened to your Dick Tracy....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Imerc was stuck. Unambulatory, as the result of a car accident.
He had an employee, to whom he gave the responsibility of sending me a virgin dick tracy hat, along with another, which I can't remember the type right now. (Filson's ???)
This employee REALLY liked the hats that were to be sent to me. She apparently picked up another hat or two as well.
When I got the package, she had kept the good hats. She sent me one of the "other" hats. An old panama. It's a good hat. An original that isn't made anymore. I like the hat. I actualy wear it. (BTW: Imerc, it fits very well, now that I have chopped off my pony tail.)
But it's not that virgin dick tracy, or filson's...
Apparently the good hats ended up on the head of this girl's EX boyfriend... Imerc is still working on getting them back.
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
I haven't given up on the hat yet. I agree that doctored hat was a pretty good look.
Hey, I would have asked Darcy myself, but I was afraid she would just run away from a scarey looking mountain man. Maybe you or someone else a bit more silver-tongued can get a better pic from her ? (To be honest, I was quite piqued by the pic we did get.)
; )
I don't have pencils to trade. It's been years since I lifted my hand in the trade for real. (Been trying to figure out a way to get someone to send me a box of those round baby's though. LOL)
Email me and I will send you a copy of the pic.
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
"Maybe if we ask really nice, Darcy will give us an updated picture.
Maybe something with her nail bags on."
"Hey, I would have asked Darcy myself, but I was afraid she would just run away from a scarey looking mountain man. Maybe you or someone else a bit more silver-tongued can get a better pic from her ? (To be honest, I was quite piqued by the pic we did get.)"
I am the only gal on our crew of 7. I am trying to imagine taking my camera to work, telling the guys that there is a scarey looking mountain man on the internet who wants a picture of me in my toolbelt, and would they mind snapping a few.
TheyÕd laugh me right off the scaffolding and IÕd never hear the end of it!
Jeez, Darcy, would you have to be quite so honest with the crew?
Bet you could get a girlfriend to take the pic, and you could have a giggle or two.View Image
Man oh man oh man, had one come back that I tried to send to a brother up in Alaska. I even used the exact same packing he sent me in a business size envelope.
I think...I THINK...that if you use a regular envelope you are supposed to have it hand cancelled. I just dropped it in the box with two stamps on it.
Sorry, David. I'll retry tomorrow. Have to go to Office Depot and get a few bubble envelopes.
How come we're not hearing anything from the New England contingent? Must be ticked off about their quarters or something. Yankees.
ROFLOL Got 'em all fooled, 'eh ?
You afeered of a few laughs ?
; )
I would like to see what the back side of that toolbelt looks like, when on ya, as well.
: )
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
"ROFLOL Got 'em all fooled, 'eh ?
You afeered of a few laughs ?
; )
I would like to see what the back side of that toolbelt looks like, when on ya, as well.
: )"
I do not understand what I have done to make you respond to me in this way.
As well, I have idea how to interpret your comments.
Please explain.
Aaaaaand this is why I refrained in the first place. Dunno why I stepped in when I did.
I like to flirt. But it is very difficult to find words that are not taken inncorrectly. Looks like I failed again. I have no idea how I have come across, but it seems that I have come across in a bad way.
For that you have my apologies.
It is/was not my intention to be anything more than flirtatious.
Please accept my apology.
Meanwhile I will find something else to stick my foot in my mouth about.
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
No problem, apology accepted.
Message disapeared..
You were #3. 2 or 3 pencils.. I think.
12 mailings so far.
$3.40 to Australia.
$1.40 to Canada.... Those folks have got to move further south... But not too far south.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I took a big delivery yesterday from Austin Hardwoods, my main material supplier. I had asked them to bring some pencils in anticipation of the exchange. They showed up with a bunch of round pencils. No-one else I deal with here gives them out, apparently. Doh!
If anyone is interested, I'd still love to have some exotic ones to show my younger students. If you send me one, I'll send you an Austin Hardwoods and throw in an Alexander Dawson School for free. Cheers!
Kit Camp, Woodworking Teacher
Alexander Dawson School
10845 West Desert Inn Road
Las Vegas, NV 89135
Thanks for the address, I'll get you something out in the mail tomorrow.
I'll trade for whatever you got. Not a problem.
BrianView Image
Imerc,
Thanks for the pencils.
Hey, I see there is a Hutchison Lumber in Fairplay.
Funny that I never noticed, just finished a house there.
Oh wait. I was in Fairplay, MO. ;-)
Thanks,
Brian
PS...I'll get you a couple out tomorrow.
You have 84 Lumber out in the mountains???
Edited 10/6/2003 7:06:58 PM ET by bee
84 is here. Wickes, 84 & BMC is used less than the big box.
You're welcome
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I got one more in a shreaded envelope.
Gonna have to get some help on this one.
Note inside from........
It was from Michigan.
The pencils was okay, from CML
Note is okay, but address and name are shreaded.
Yeah, I have several different tradables, how many different do you want. Even have a couple of "dot coms".
Email me with your address.
Thanks,
Brian
Brian
Edited 10/6/2003 7:07:45 PM ET by bee
Hi Jim,
Got a pencil from you today. BVut only because the guys at the PO were very nice.
The envelope was in shreads and in a plastic bag with the pencil included.
Thanks,
BrianView Image
"The envelope was in shreads and in a plastic bag with the pencil included."
Geez, sorry about that. I got one today from Michigan the same way, inside a bigger envelope with a clear panel on it. I'm gonna have to start taking more care packing. I just reused the cardboard package you sent me, that was a beauty.
IMERC - was that you who sent me three from Colorado? You folks who go by user names here online have to let us know who the heck you are in the U.S. mail!
Jim,
No problem, the pencil made it just fine.
Thanks
That one you got from Michigan.......
If you have the name and address of the sender, would you please email it to me?
Thanks,
BrianView Image
I got your pencil last night, as well as one from IMERC.
Give me a couple of days to remember to get some sent out in return..... Q: If you see a lawyer on a bicycle, why should you swerve to avoid hitting him?A: It might be your bicycle.
Boss,
Glad it arrived safely. take your time.
Couple of days or weeks, whatever works for you.
BrianView Image
Come in a padded envelope?
One of them Hutchinson Lumber?
That's me.
Like to know how the surving rate is going and what kind pakaging is working.
Is armor plate in order?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
The padded envelope came in A1 condition, in fact it is on it's way back home tomorrow.
Talked to the guy at the Post Office today and regular envelopes go through the sorter but padded and weird homemade ones,(like mine) are handles by hand.
I was just wondering how many miles we can get on one of these pacages.
This one of yours will have, what? About 2400 by the time it gets back to you.View Image
So who do I send it on to?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Gosh, I don't know.
I think you have already sent out more than anyone else.
Have you already sent one to John Walker? That would put some miles on it.
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Who's in England.
Already sent to JW...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Kostello, but not sure he has entered the fun of the
"Great Pencil Exchange"
You already sent to Alaska?
Anybody here from Hawaii?View Image
1 Canada
1 Austraila
12 Lower 48
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
got your pencils today, thanks heaps, yours and others on the way (I've been slack sendin' them off.)
Cheers Johnhttp://www.johnwalkerbuilders.com
No kidding. That was fast for the PO level of efficientcy.
They arrive in fair shape?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Arrived in great shape.http://www.johnwalkerbuilders.com
On the way....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Kit,
Put a packet in the mail to you today.
You'll let us no when it arrives, won't you?
best regards,
BrianView Image
I certainly will, and mine will go out the next day in return.
I don't want to pre-empt anyone since I don't have "real" carpenter's pencils to send, but I will reciprocate to all.
Thanks,
Kit
Got a couple of pencils in the mail today from GregF.
They came in a regular envelope in perfect shape.
I have the afternoon off, so I will get a pair on the way to him today.
Also, finally have the address for the pencil from Michigan, (I hope I have it right), going to mail to him today, also.
I've got plenty to send out, just need a place to send them.
So, you don't have to go looking for it.
My address is;
Brian Sipes
PO Box 1553
Buffalo, MO 65622
Edited 10/8/2003 12:49:14 PM ET by bee
Hi, I´d send you a pencil from hereabouts. The best european ones are made by Caran d Áche, Switzerland, just the right hardness and cedarwood. I have a couple of them to send anyone willing to trade.
Also have yard pencils, but zthe wood is beech, a bitch to sharpen with even a sharp chisel.
So how does this work?
Greetings, Mathias Raulf
Raulf Carpenters
Lohseplatz 5
D - 20457 Hamburg
Germany
...."How does this work?.......
I'll send you a couple of pencils and when you get them, you can send a couple back.
I would love to have a yard pencil. I won't sharpen it anyway.
Best regards from the U.S.
Brian
I'm guessing they will have to have customs tags. Hopefully none of the Postal Workers are part time builders. :-)View Image
Hi bee,
I´ll be needing your adress. Mathias
Hi Matt,
I sent my address through email.
It is just mid-day here, so I will get your packet in the mail today.View Image
Hamburg? Cool. I'll send you a couple from the Pacifc Northwest, Mathias.
Back in the early 70s I helped a fellow down around Stutgart (sp?) build a house. Used to go help on my off days, they'd feed me, even spent Christmas Day with them one year.
Did I mention they had a teenaged daughter who liked rock & roll and laughing? Geez, hadn't thought about those folks in years - thanks for that.
Anyways, I'll get those out Friday.
Jim,
Thanks for the pencils, Did you get both pencils I sent or just one ?
I'll send you another if one got lost, I thought an envelope would work ok, but I guess not. JohnA
Hi John,
There are pencils on the way to you from me, too.
No wonder Jim and I didn't know who you were, this was your first post.
Welcome to Breaktime. Good to have you.
BrianView Image
Bee,
Thanks for the pencils, and your envelope design worked out great I'll reuse it like Jim and make a couple new one's too.
I posted a couple of times when the old format was up but, I just got too busy with work, working on our house, and we have a six month old boy that I don't want to miss growing up. So I would just get on the computer when I could.
You brought my current pencil count up to 82 different pencils. Some are from the same yard but, have different designs or colors.
I'll send out some of my doubles to you guy's after I go to the post office tomorrow.
John
Jim,
Got my package off to Matt in Germany.
Cheaper than I thought it would be. Just $1.60 and it didn't need a customs tag.View Image
HI Jim,
it would have been Stuttgart. I have an american carpenter working here, who shares shop space and does jobs with me. He is a very gifted craftsman, used to be a finish carpenter in the US. - and/but is not afraid of grunt work (like carrying 5 palettes of sheetrock into the second floor).
He has this "can do" attitude, that we lack in Germany. And says Good morning with a smile on his face. I can practice my english.
Thank you for sending pencils.
I´ll be gone for a week, but will send pencils to everybody as they come in.
Thank you,
Mathias
I'm in how's this gunna work.
Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing! Holmes Sr. Oliver Wendell
Email your address or post it.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
......."I'm in how's this gunna work.".........
There are also about half dozen addresses already posted.
You can send pencils to them and you will get one in return.
But if you want to start out by emailing your address, email it to me, too.
Thanks for joining in.
Brian
Edited 10/11/2003 10:27:52 AM ET by bee
I'll dig through some of mine and see if I can dig up a few extras Jim. Heres' a shot of my collection. I still have to make some more oak frames to frame the rest, plus get a bigger office with more wall space.
Good Idea! collecting pencils................
I sure wish some of these lumber yards were still open.
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Bob, Dude seriously, you collect more stuff then my grandmother...
though at least your stuff is usefull...
hey Cag,
Would you run into the city and see if you can scrounge me up a few pencils that aren't charred to badly?View Image
I'd rather not think about it.
I didn't know of the other two yards that burned down, but I really liked Schutte, didn't go there often, but the place was one serious lumber yard. It's the one place I would call when I couldn't find something anywhere else, and was never let down.
Dude, it's all cooooooool stuff and only of interest if you are a true carpenter. Way better than collecting stamps................
I really do need to get to work, too many pictures, too many hammers too many bevels................"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Yeah, and too many pencils! Send one down my way, brothereman.
Hey, I see we gained a couple Ohioans today, huh? Must be making our way East.
Bob
Nice collection, How did you attach the pencils to your display hot glue ?
Yes Hot glue, so they're only for display, so you can't just go and rip them off and use them on the job. :-) "Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
John,
Put a package in the mail to you today.View Image
See that. I just knew that you would like this pencil exchanging/collecting thing.
I like your displays. I've been pondering the pencil display idea.
I was thinking about building a frame with glass front, like an ant farm box. Making it just thick enough between glass and back to slide the pencils in, so they touched edge to edge. Make the top removable and just drop in any new pencils.View Image
Good idea! Now we'll have guys designing display pencil boxes! Another patent idea!"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
here is a pic of a display I built to show off some cool Camel Cig packs from the Netherlands.View Image
I've heard of guys walkin a mile for a Camel but Man Bee, buildin a case for em when you get there? Now there's a carpenter.............."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Just curious if those are empty packs or still full?
Just as a reminder to you all----that no good deed goes un-punished.
I went into the post office today with a spring in my step and a smile on my face to mail off a dozen pencils.
when I came OUT of the post office----my sheet metal brake was missing from my truck! thieves work quickly ,I guess.
this pencil exchange has become a pretty costly hobby all of a sudden.
I am a little pizzed off====that brake has traveled on the side of my trucks for something like 15 years without a problem.
I don't really believe in hell----but it's stuff like this that makes me wish their was a particularly nasty realm to condem !@#$%^& freakin !@#$%^&*!@#$% verminous mother f!@#$%^&*(tool thieves to.
what kind of a dirt bag DOES something like that?
Well anyhow----I got some pencils sent.
Damn... Sorry to hear that.
Posse time if there was ever one.....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
No good deed goes un-punished right?
That blows big time.
Well SH*T!
What does the post office do to this stuff! I just received two fully shredded envelopes, one from Andy Clifford and one from GregF.
Andy's pencil was broken in half, even in his homemade cardboard envelope.
Greg's two pencils were reduced to about a teaspoon of graphite dust and some red and white crumbs. His note was torn into four pieces.
I've sent out nine packages, to bee, blodgett, imerc, honeydoos, mr. hazlett, andy c. toolin63, john austin, and bryan klakamp. Have any of them made it to you guys? I used a standard envelope (though high quality) with the pencils taped to cardboard and wrapped in a sheet of typing paper.
Now I fear I'm in trouble...
Should have listened to Blodgett and Bee...
-Kit
nothing here yet. but i'll let you know when they arrive.
I'll bet those old nails of Andy's are costing the PO some money in repairs.
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And All...
I think the biggest problem here is that you are all trying to make the package as standard as possible.
Forget standard. Make the package strong. A cardboard box, maybe. But make it a box. Make it some size that is obviously not going to fit into some machine. Then, no half-witted PE will try to make it fit into a machine, (built to handle a standard sized envelope.), it won't get stuck, it won't get destroyed.
Who cares that the box would have a lot more room in it than needed. (Stuff it with wadded paper, or bubble wrap or something. Tape the pencil in place.) Who cares if it gets to the destination a couple days later. It should at least get there in one piece.
Can't we all just get a log ? - Paul Bunyon
Quittin' Time
I'll send you two more in a padded envelope.
GregF
Well folks----these stories of postal mutilation do not encourage me.
I sent out pencils to Darcy,Brian Sipes,Jim Blodgett,Andy Clifford, Kit Camp,and Brian Klakamp.These were the adresses posted here---and all that I have on record.
since I simply dropped them in a standard business envelope and re-inforced the short edges with scotch tape----I now have little hope of their safe arrival. If mypencils to make it to you folks,let me know and I will re-send in a more postal proof packaging.
and I'm guess the 323 year old nail was gone?
That was a pretty heavy duty pack I made all duct taped together.....my guess is that postal workers aren't all that honest.....I got some splinters sent to me as well.....
Be postal
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Hi Kit,
Yours came today, but didn't do very well.
Envelope shreaded and pencils are in pieces, but the paper you wrapped arong them did good.<BG>
I was going to post a pic, but prospero won't let me.View Image
I have actually run out of Austin Hardwood pencils, so I have to scrounge some more. When I do I'll send 'em out in a padded envelope....Sorry,
Kit
Kit.
Services were held for your pencils.
The USPS can be most unkind to things of importantence.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Yeah, I got a check in the mail for a grand once that was ripped in two, they were nice enough to put it in a new envelope with a nice apology letter from the post office.
Man, I am so sorry to hear about your break.
I'd be 1PO'd **.
No chance that a couple of your mates grabbed it as a joke?
Anyway, pencils on the way to you.
BrianView Image
They were full when they came from de nederlands.
I'm not sure would have to take it apart to tell, but I'm guessing they are empty now. Waste not want not.
I took the pictures in a hurry last night, so they aren't that great, but did you notice the animals on the back of the packs?View Image
nope, I'll have to take a closer look
Geez Bob, anything you don't collect? :)Steve
S.J.MERRETTE Carpentry & Construction • Robesonia, PA
Nothing is impossible...It just hasn't been done yet.
I know, I need help..............."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Hey Jim and everyone else!
Here's my address. Send me one, and I'll send one to you.
Bryan Klakamp
1908 Park St.
Findlay, Ohio 45840
"Objects in mirror appear closer than they are."
Klakamp Construction, Findlay, Ohio
Welcome aboard!!!
I'll have one in the mail to you tomorrow.View Image
Bryan,
Packet of pencils heading your way from Missouri
BrianView Image