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Well here goes… let see if I can describe this. I have a rectangular house with a gable end that I need to side. The only problem is that there is another section of the house jutting out from the gable end. This covers 2/3 of the gable with its wall/roofline. So in other words the part that I need to side is accessible from the roof of the addition. Only problem is that the roof pitch is 10/12. So I can’t stand on it to put the siding on and I can’t reach from a scaffolding. I thought about hooking a ladder over the peak of the addition roof then I can reach the gable to be sided, but I can’t really do much manuevering and don’t have much room for tools. By the way, I am putting up wood shake-fish scales and diamonds. Sorry the visuals aren’t working too good on my computer today. I would also appreciate any advice on putting up the shakes. I plan to oil base prime all sides. I will be putting it up over foil faced insulation covering OSB, I planned to put a layer of felt under the shakes.
Thanks for any help!!
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Dan it sounds like you're going to be there for quiet a while. Take the time and set up proper scaffolds. Put down protection on the roof and scaffold over with platforms.
Live to tell us how it went.
*Dan, you're going to have to put on brackets or scaffolding. Only other way is with a bucket truck!Wait, you're going to nail cedar over felt over foamboard??? What's the thickness of the foam board? How dense/will it provide a good nailing surface?Wondering.
*The old standby in these cases is a skyhook. Try your local rental yard. If they don't have one they probably have some kind of an all terrain type lift that will do the trick.
*If you can't reach it with a bucket truck you might try using rope and harness like it was a communications tower. Put a secure fastening point as far down over the peak of the adjoining roof as needed. Then work out of the harness just like raising a tower.You need a safety person anyway in this situation so that person can trolley-line down tools and materials.Oh yes, almost forgot, if you choose this don't be cheap, use the latest harness, rope and fasteners from your equipment store.
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Dan,
Use 2 roof ladders like you described. Space them say 6' apart. Put ladder jacks on each one and connect with a short walkboard. Next to the house build a pipe scaffold from the ground up to the roofline. Use long alumunum walkboards between the pipe scaffold and the roof ladders.
Be safe, Steve
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Dare I suggest,pay a professional?He already knows how to do this,and has lived to tell the tale. Good Luck,Stephen
*Dan,
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*You didn't mention what kind of roofing is on the roof. If it's asphalt why not use roof irons also known as roof jacks. You just lift up the exposed part of the shingle nail the jack into a rafter or truss. These are standard equipment for roofers who frequently do roofs steeper than 8/12. See your local roofing supply outlet for more information.
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Dan;
You might want to consult Al Gore on this one,
Im thinking he probally invented scaffolding some time before he invented the internet, and if not they are surely planning a program to help people with problems like yours, " from the rocking of the cradle to the rolling of the hearse, they are there for you" sorry just couldnt let this oppurtunity to point out another way big brother could help us along slip by without comment.
Chicken ladders are what I use in circumstances
like this, they are the fastest and easiest to use.
brisketbean
*Dan;You might want to consult Al Gore on this one,Im thinking he probally invented scaffolding some time before he invented the internet, and if not they are surely planning a program to help people with problems like yours, " from the rocking of the cradle to the rolling of the hearse, they are there for you" sorry just couldnt let this oppurtunity to point out another way big brother could help us along slip by without comment.Chiken ladders are what I use in circumstanceslike this, they are the fastest and easiest to use.brisketbean
*Yes, I plan to nail the shakes through the foam board into 1/2 inch OSB. The foam board is also 1/2 inch. On the siding below (which is spruce quartersawn) we were able to nail into studs. I realize that on the gables we won't be able to hit studs. I am hoping that the OSB will be a sufficient nailing surface. Or do you think that we will need to put up some sort of nailers over the foam board that would be attached to the studs?Thanks for the help.
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Roof brackets...easy and inexpensive....Not OSHA approved...What else is new.
J
*Fred L,The siding system proposed here seems like one of those "rot from trapped moisture" situations....I don't like the idea of 1/2" foam against sheathing and shingles on top...Moisture trapping and no drying ability....I have taken apart similar walls and found rot....What do you think??J
*Al gore? chicken ladders?I know about al the ripoff gore, but what in the hell is a chicken ladder?Blue
*Roof brackets are not Osha approved? I learn something new everyday!Which do you say will rot, the studs, or the siding?Blue
*Dan, just make sure you have a decent landing area!The rigging of scaffolds, and other types of support structures can be very tricky. If you are not 100% sure of what you are doing, do something to be 100% sure!Psst, don't tell anyone, but Al gore gave me that tip!Blue
*DanIf you will be able to reach the ridge area of the wall to be sided,i from the ridge of the lower roof, then I would use a modified version of Steve B.'s. . .using the pipe scaffold idea, space the roof ladders about 3'-4' apart, skip the ladder brackets and plank (three more things to worry about)and fabricate a staging from 2pcs 2x6 or 2x8 on the flat, spaced to slide through the rung space of the two roof ladders, and attach ply to the tops as a working surface. One end sits b clamped over the rungsof the pipe scaffold, the other on the roof ladder rungs.( not a lot of bearing at this end, clamping here would also help) Size this staging for it's longest run. If, however you will not be able to reach the apex of the wall to be sided from the ridge level of the lower roof, you will have to construct a more elaborate scaffold toi straddle the ridgeof the lower roof. Such a scaffold can be easily constructed from 2x4's, just use plenty of braces ( attach with screws for easy assembly/disassembly)and it willi siton the roof with out need for attachment i tothe roof.This ridge straddling assembly could be used in conjuction with the i moving up the slopeplank. The pipe scaffold is a good place to set up any tools that you need, and your stock of shingles. Hope your not in a hurry. You might spend more time assembling thei ridge straddler, than actually using it
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Well here goes... let see if I can describe this. I have a rectangular house with a gable end that I need to side. The only problem is that there is another section of the house jutting out from the gable end. This covers 2/3 of the gable with its wall/roofline. So in other words the part that I need to side is accessible from the roof of the addition. Only problem is that the roof pitch is 10/12. So I can't stand on it to put the siding on and I can't reach from a scaffolding. I thought about hooking a ladder over the peak of the addition roof then I can reach the gable to be sided, but I can't really do much manuevering and don't have much room for tools. By the way, I am putting up wood shake-fish scales and diamonds. Sorry the visuals aren't working too good on my computer today. I would also appreciate any advice on putting up the shakes. I plan to oil base prime all sides. I will be putting it up over foil faced insulation covering OSB, I planned to put a layer of felt under the shakes.
Thanks for any help!!