I’m adding a bathroom to my bonus room above my shop and connected to this puter room by my bedroom.
I can do plumbing but I ain’t no plumber so…for those of you that really know yer stuff in the doody dept., how would you do your waste lines and venting?
Here’s the deal in the pictures I took below.
I’m framing out for a shower I’ll be using Kerdi in : ) which is on the left where I have the wall open for my hot and cold supply lines I’ll be bringing up from the basement.
In that same bay will be my waste line starting under the shower floor which is currently open and the floor joists are just screwed in so I can move em’ around.
Plenty of space to do anything I want under there right now.
The joists under there go left to right (over the stairwell)
On the far rear sheetrocked wall is all access for anything I want right now which is where I’d like my stack to come through the roof behind the toilet.And yes…it is a big area..I’ll use it for storage,abd the toilet isn’t going to be exactly centered in that partition wall….its going off to the right a bit. Just beyond my drill and level.
Run my 3″ or 4″ waste line from the toilet between the TJI’s which as you can see runs front to back.
Directly opposite the toilet on the closest wall in the picture will be my sink.
I’ll cut the TJI’s with my RotoZip I figure being I framed them so close together
They’re spanning over 30′ above my shop/3 car garage. They’re 16″ TJI’s.
So how would you do this?
Thanks people.
Be well
andy…
Edited 1/20/2007 12:26 am ET by andybuildz
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Andy,I'll try to help out. My initial thought is that venting is no problem--you'll just go straight up thru the roof, this is the top level right? The problem is the drain. Where is the stack you'd be accessing? It will also depend on what is located directly off the stack below this area; some codes will not permit you to access the stack at all in some cases.Or, do you need a whole new drain/stack? If that's the case, maybe you could put it where you said, and put a studor vent on the sink to avoid another stack; have the drain for the sink and shower connect with a y pipe back to the main drainstack by the toilet.Scott
Edited 1/21/2007 6:43 pm by ScottMatson
Or, do you need a whole new drain/stack? If that's the case, maybe you could put it where you said, and put a studor vent on the sink to avoid another stack; have the drain for the sink and shower connect with a y pipe back to the main drainstack by the toilet.<<<<<Right...I need a whole new stack and would like to go behind the toilet which happens to be the low end of the roof then connect the shower vent to that. Would I need to come up higher than the toilet with my vent.
Come through the wall thats sheetrocked and elbow it around through the storage area and connect to the stack just above the toilet tank?
Or can I go through the floor joists just above the waste lines and elbow it to the stack at floor level?I also thought to use a studor vent for the sink...or...come up the wall behind the sink in my 2x6 framing and around the shower framing and continue it like I first suggested for the shower vent...around and through that stoage area on that far rear wall...or go above the waste line directly accross the floor and into the new toilet stack?Thats the part I'm thinking I'm not allowed to do but that would ultimatly be the easiest by far.For some reason I'm thinking no ones gonna know what I'm talking about here...lol. Wish I had photo shop to show a diagram but I don't.
HAve a feeling I should just make a copy of the picture I have attached to this thread and bring it to my supply house or call a friggin' plumber....lol. Just can't seem to spring for the plumber though right now is all.
Thanks for trying though.
I'll have to see if a studor vent is allowed cause that sure would solve a lot of problems for me although I do know a Studor vent always has a chance to fail...not that it couldn't be easily replaced...ugh.
I really also don't wanna come up with a second stack which would be above the sink cause thats gonna be a real pain I think..
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If the studor vent fails here it would probably warn you before a lot of damage occurred, especially if it was accessible; not sure ifyou were using a vanity or a pedestal sink. I guess I worry more about studor vents in say a basement, where there is a lot of action above the sink, drainwise. Maybe it's just as bad up there too.I don't know all the rules of draining and venting--I pick up on them all the time on jobs as a kitchen and bath remodeler and sometimes they seem to contradict themselves but mostly due to one inspector's view vs. another, vs. plumber, etc. I've also found that not all plumbers know them all either, and it has come to problems in the way of money--excavating much more basement concrete than necessary for example.Question--I'm not looking at the pics now but is there a slope to your finished ceiling? If that is the case I don't know if you can vent downward from the sink area within the rafters down to the toilet stack but if the ceiling is flat then obviously this doesn't apply.Someone on this site should know the name of a really good plumbing forum--I have been to it and it was bookmarked on my old computer. It was for professionals only but I was able to sneak in and get VERY good information--perhaps you could get some advice before someone raised any eyebrows; or maybe i was overrating how concerned they were about that in the first place. Anyway, that would save you hiring a plumber, though it could be money well spent! Another thought would be to barter something on Craigslist in your area for plumbing services, not sure if you can get quality help that way or not but it seems like worth looking into.Scott
Okay never mind about the ceiling, I see that you want to route the vent within the walls, seems doable to me in theory; not sure how much higher above the toilet it needs to be exactly but check with at least a plumber, if not the building inspector.
Been working on finishing up the framing on the bathroom this morning and I'm thinking,,,F-it...by the time I finish researching all of this I could have it done by just having individual vents through the roof. One for the sink and one for the toilet. And run the vent for the shower through the wall studs to the toilet vent up as high as the storage ceiling area which would be just above the top of the tank.
The walls are open so there's no reason to use the studor vent. Just do it right the first time.
Down the pike I can hear myself saying, " shoulda, woulda but didn't"! So...
One final thing I'll do before I "do" cut up through the ceiling and through my wood shingled roof is see if a studor vent is to code or not.
If it is to code then I'll go that route.
Ugh...
andy : )
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