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   Sphere | Nov 26, 2006 03:56pm | #1

   That pic is not doing it for me. I think I see a valley? can you resize the pic or get an overview from farther away?

   And, what exactly is your concern?

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   theslateman | Nov 26, 2006 06:03pm | #5

   Duane,

   Use the trick Rez taught me-right click the picture and "save picture as"  then you can save it and see it in a more clear way.  I couldn't tell anything either from the initial picture.

   P.S.   Rez is the Man!!

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   Sphere | Nov 26, 2006 06:39pm | #6

   Cool trick! yeah, I'd line the whole thing with copper, it appears to be a valley that is kerflunked.

    

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   JohnMc | Nov 26, 2006 07:02pm | #8

   Thanks for the reply, sorry about the pic quality.

    

   John

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   Sphere | Nov 26, 2006 07:13pm | #10

   Do it in metal and be done with it. Where are you located?

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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   Sphere | Nov 26, 2006 07:15pm | #11

   Sorry I just saw your location in INdiana..I am just down the road in KY. We do this stuff all the time..I need to visit my buddy Doud in Wabash area anyway..how far are you from there?

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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   JohnMc | Nov 26, 2006 07:44pm | #12

   I am on the west side of indy.  This is a clients home I did an exterior paint estimate for and blew the leaves off the gutter screens.  She has since had the area repaired but not as you suggested. 

   Here is another pic of the front if the house.  Lots of leaves

   
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   JLazaro317 | Nov 26, 2006 10:26pm | #14

   I'd build a saddle in there to pitch that valley forward of the wall and then use some of the other ideas suggested here. The leaves in that valley will always exacerbate the problem. I've fixed a few of those dead valleys.

   Good luck,John

   J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.

   Indianapolis, In.

    

5. 
   Piffin | Nov 28, 2006 09:12am | #15

   That is a problem that was created by a designer who had no clue. I would re-frame to eliminate the dead valley 

    

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   Piffin | Nov 28, 2006 09:15am | #16

   see above post. I meant to direct it to you.Not only was the designer clueless about water flow, but that is one butt-ugly house. No sense of detail or proportion. 

    

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   rez | Nov 28, 2006 06:57pm | #18

   You want a real pic of 'butt-ugly'?

    

    

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   IMERC | Nov 28, 2006 07:12pm | #19

   why would you post yur pic rez???? 

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   rez | Nov 28, 2006 07:17pm | #20

   Ok ok, now ya did it...

    

    

   
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    IMERC | Nov 28, 2006 07:37pm | #21

    you don't think I'm gonna open that now do ya??? 

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

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    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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    Piffin | Nov 29, 2006 02:26am | #22

    please save me! 

     

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    JLazaro317 | Nov 28, 2006 03:33pm | #17

    I agree whole-heartedly.John

    J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.

    Indianapolis, In.

     

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   Jer | Nov 26, 2006 04:08pm | #2

   Looks like a cricket of some sort. What's the problem? Leaves collecting, leaks due to improper flashing? It's hard to see.

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   JohnMc | Nov 26, 2006 06:59pm | #7

   This area of the roof has leaked in the past, collects debris, rotting shingles because it never dries out. 

   Thanks.

   sorry about the pic sizing.

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   Framer | Nov 26, 2006 07:07pm | #9

   Here's the picture a little smaller.Joe Carola

   
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   Framer | Nov 26, 2006 04:22pm | #3

   That looks like the side of a dormer and a liter on the corner,and also the overhang and soffit. It also looks like when the built the cricket they didn't come out to the outside of the corner and there's a flat spot about 16" in form the corner.

   Also looks like rotted out shingles with caulk and also looks like snow& ice or flashing sticking out.

   Joe Carola
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   theslateman | Nov 26, 2006 06:00pm | #4

   There shouldn't be any shingles on the left side of that area-only metal that has been installed by someone proficient.

   The valley should be "open" and a decent reveal on the right hand side-say 8" or so.

   It is hard to see the left hand sides area beyond the roof.

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   Islagrande | Nov 26, 2006 08:46pm | #13

   Wow ! What a design ! That is the kind of thing that calls for an "overbuild-it" attitude. If you accept the construction or don't see an alternative to that, then line it with copper that you solder yourself. Get some ruby red flux , some solder, and a high wattage iron or light torch. Don't let up until you get to a point where the flow of water fans out and disperses. My motto: "Think the way water thinks"