This had to been the biggest discount roofing job of the century.
I was actually there to do a kitchen install and peeked out the bathroom window to just get some fresh air and looky what I saw.
On the way out for the day I looked from ground level and it looks convincing from 20 feet away.
You know those drive-by inspections aren’t what they use to be—I remember back in the good ol’ days they would actually slow down when doing a DBI.
HANG ON FORGOT TO DOWNSIZE—
Mike
“Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while” Mitremike c. 1990
” I reject your reality and substitute my own”
Adam Savage—Mythbusters
Edited 5/18/2006 4:39 am by Mitremike
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Take two---
Mike
"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990
" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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That is absolutly the best flashing job I have ever seen you can even tell how well its fastened to the roof with exposed roofin nails. You can't even tell where they took the old siding off and slid the flashing up behind. WHAT IN THE F##K are some people thinking, that was actually going to work, probably not.
People around here are needing work and this is what they are competing against.
I only golf on days that end with a "Y".
Thats lovely!
That is the latest green building technique for rain water collection
What's the big deal? A little caulk and it will be fine....(-:
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someone has to keep Dap in business no?
Hey there Boss--Caulk---with that kinda gap no need to squeeze it out of the tube.just cut the tip off and lay the tubes end to end---would work better than the flashing.BTW--I like your your copy of the story better--could be cause I know you--or maybe cause it is your story written your way.Still takes guts to publish something and that makes it all the more cool.Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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It really helps to understand the purpose of whatever it is you're doing, doesn't it?Andy
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Waz there a '64 ford up on blocks in the front yard with a hole bunch-o beagles a-runnin 'round tied by clothesline to a wire a-runnin to the house? Waz they lots-o tar paper and weathered plywood out back? an' what about Granny's trailor, waz that there too?
If'n you answered 'yep' ta any of the above, then that thar flashin' job jest-a fits raaaaght in an thar ain't a dang thaing wrong with it.
...Dang belly achin' revinuers...
Ya might be a reeeed-nek.....Sad to say--right in the middle of the city.At least the kitchen was right. =)Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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At least the painters diddn't drip any white paint on the roof shingles
That thars the new teckneek for allowin some breathin room behind th` flashin. Keeps moisture from building up behind thar dontcha know.
Nice. Watcha wanna do with yer flashing is form a dam.
Form a dam ???Looks like they didn't GIVE a dam...
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Apparently u all dont allow for expansion when u flash. And nailing to wall results in holes exactly where u dont want them.
What's wrong? The flashing gives a real nice finished look to the tar job underneath.
Never seen a two story mobile home. COOL
my mouth is still hanging open in awe after taking the time to read all the responceces
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Check this one out, this is from my house.
Where your guy didn't know caulk, that seems to be all the old homeowner had on hand.
Sorry about the size of the pics, I haven't figured out the resizing program yet.
What the hell is going on with that chimminy! That cant be holding water out can it?
Doug
Nope.We're waiting to take possession to start on the roof. I could keep this board perplexed for days with the pics I've got...
How many layers are on that "leak waiting to happen"?I only golf on days that end with a "Y".
"How many layers are on that "leak waiting to happen"?"That depends on which area you're talking about...
Man oh man you have got quite a prize pig on your hands there!
Any other pictures of what not to on a roof, this is good stuff. I only golf on days that end with a "Y".
I think the HO's must have hired the same contractor "Can't-see-it-from-my-house remodeling, Inc."
Are you tellin' me you BOUGHT that house---Hope you got a smokin' deal on the place.Start a new Thread on the Real Money Pit---all the laughs , no Tom Hanks.I am not kidding when I tell you this. Half way thru the day I went up to the bathroom and looked again cause I wasn't sure if I had really see it or what.Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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I'd venture to say the guy drove a 67 buick skylark with a homemade ladder rack on top. Magnetic sign of the day on the door of course.
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>>>>Magnetic sign of the day on the door of course.Probably said "Roofing, vinyl siding, driveway sealing, yards mowed."
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Locally I have seen a truck with what appears to be professional signage.It says something like;"Complete Heating and Air Conditioning Service
Lawn Service"I have no idea how or my a legit business would be doing both.The only thing that I can figure is that the wife made him setup a business for his deadbeat BIL.But even at that it should be in a different name.
When we lived on Kauai in the 80's, we always laughed at the odd combinations under one roof. Our favorite was "Mike's TV and Liquor" - I even have the T-shirt somewhere. Another was an upholstery and massage place, and a couple more I'll have to remember.Forrest
HVAC and Lawn Service are a perfect fit...each blade of grass is a tiny evaporative cooler.
Etc.....
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Magnetic sign of the day
We just had a big hail storm down here and you cant even imagine how many trucks drive by with magnetic signs on them, its amazing, they all look new.
I must get 5 guys a day stop by and offer a free estimate.
I had one of them give me a bid just for sh!ts and grins, I have a roof that has about 28 sq, guy gives me a bid for $2700, that includes tear off, haul away, felt and re-shingle with 25 year fiberglass!
I dont know how the hell he'd of made any money on the job, but he had a nice magnetic sign!
The other thing I notices was all the new yard signs, I'm starting to figure out who's making all the money from this storm.
Doug
You should see New Orleans. You want to see yard signs. Down boulevards a foot apart for miles. Everything from house gutting to lawyers, to sign companies advertising yard signs.
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we used to call those guys "Hail-hounds"
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yea, there like fleas on a dog, bet there isnt a one with insurance at the prices that they are quoting!
Magnetic sign?You gotta be kiddin'---Magnetic infers that there is acually enough steel to stick to. And beside---most boulavard signs are only printed on one side, Leaving you the other to make your own and tape it to the door--Keeps out the drafts too.Saw a roofer one time---pushin' like h3ll on his hammer holdin' some else in his other hand.Took me a minute to figuer out he was pushin out roofing sealer of a caulk tube with his hammer handle.Stll laugh every time I think about the look on his face as he's bearin' down on that hammer.Classic.Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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" YOU CAN DO IT, WE CAN HELP " ( nuff said )
" YOU CAN DO IT, WE CAN HELP " ( nuff said )I install for HD and on one of those jobs I built this (7-layers of molding and 51 pieces)...so don't be so hasty to assume all HD installs are hack work.
Hey Basswood---Gotta catch up to you at some point.For 2 years I did Kitchens for Homer---In retrospect I can say I enjoyed the projects and the HO.The paperwork, politics and general "who cares" was what did the end for me. Which store you out of?BTW--Sweet Hood----bettcha got some miscuts out of that one.Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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I do work for the Rochester store. At one point, sales for that HD store were in the top 10 nationwide. They are OK to work for, it pays well enough for the hassels so far. About 1/3 of our work last year came from HD. Have 3 kitchens on the schedule for them around the end of June (all 3 at once).Glad you like the hood, that did take a few extra trips to the slider.And we should line up a meeting sometime for work or play. I was up in the Cities a couple of months ago working for Charlie the Singing Carpenter (when we were slow). I picked up some hardwood flooring in Brooklyn Park a couple of weeks ago. I'll let you know the next time I headin' up.
Ya can't get to B.Park from Roch. without going thru my city. We got this mall around these parts ya midda heard of.Seriously---drop me a line thru the back door and we'll get the numbers thing going.So I gotta ask---Does he really sing?Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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I sent you an email.He didn't sing while I was around--it may just be a legend ; > )
That's a nice job on that hood. I took his "you can do it, we can help" comment a little different. I assumed that he meant that the HO had installed the flashing themselves with a little (bad or incomplete) advice from Homer instead of having it done professionally.
-Don
Mike,
Were you actually the one who came up with the blind squirrel saying? I came up with the saying "That's why they call it 'fishing' and not 'catching'" but no one believes me.
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!-----Or thats why they call it work and not vacation?I guess if no one else claims it then I am going with the the possesion is 9/10 of the law......Oh wait I'll take that one too!"Yeah---That's the ticket" I lent that one to Jon Levitiz and look what he did!Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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I did think of that interpretation of the post, after I posted my responce...you could be right about that. If so, my bad.I've grown weary of broad brush comments that are too general to be very accurate. I find quite a few things annoying about the Big Boxes too, they are a mixed bag. There have been lots of negative comments about HD & Lowes installers (I could make a few of those comments myself), but I am also one of them.When I get the chance, I like to point out that some fine work (and even some good advise) can come out of those places too.
I wasn't refering to HD subs, That work had to be a "homeowner special". Sorry to offend :).
Looks like the work of a "house flipper" around here. I'd like to post a pic of how one installed vinyl windows. Insane!
Well some HD roof subs are better than others. Others are worse than othrs.http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=73605.1
No big deal...I'm just a little jumpy. I have an interest in defending one of the hands that feeds me IYKWIM.
Not to hijack, but that reminds me of something.... whenever we frame a house that has housewrap coming down to a roofline (like on a gable end with a "pigeon roof" under it), we always leave the bottom 3-4" of housewrap unnailed so the roofers can slip their flashing under it.
But lo and behold, when I drive by the house a few weeks later, where is the flashing? On TOP of the housewrap! It makes it hard for me to care about the job I do when no one else does! Heck, if they'd send me the flashing I'd install it for them just to make sure it's lapped properly!Jason Pharez Construction
Framing Contractor
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You said it---Now Basswood gonna get ya.Mike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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They read an article about letting air circulate in behind the flashing like a rain screen!
Behind? Flashing? Air circulating?Are we looking at the same picture?Where's the trench coat? LOLMike"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" Mitremike c. 1990" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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