hello all,
I have a customer wanting an arbor built on the back of his house. He has no definate ideas on what he wants and I can’t find any good pictures of any. It will be approx. 12′ x 12′. I am thinking something with 4 x 12 redwood timbers. does anyone have pics or know where i can get some? Please help I don’t stress often but tonight i am. Thanks in advance
An inch to short. That’s the story of my life !
bstcrpntr — I hope to grow into this name.
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12 x 12 sounds awful large for an arbor.....you sure you`re not looking for a purgola?
Either way, sounds like you`re looking to build a permanent structural element. Around here that requires a permit and plans if not blueprints. I`d suggest you have your customer do his legwork. Unless you`re business includes design work as well as construction, you might be asking for trouble. You could end up spending countless hours attempting to dream up a design (or search one out), when that really isn`t your job to begin with.
When I come across similar situations, I respectfully suggest to the potential client that they call me back once they`ve decided exactly what it is they want. If it will require a stamped set of plans, I`m more than happy to provide them with several names of architects....but unless they`re paying me, in advance, to design a project, I don`t waste my (or their) time.
J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
"DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"
Someone going to have to take a trip down to the local library, and or bookstore. ditto on the permit comment, good luck,, Jim J
Arbors and Pergolas are hard to quote because all they are is wood stacked on top of wood. You'll have some digging to do too.
I've enclosed a few pictures of Pergolas..........
6x6 treated posts, 3x10 cross, 3x8 rail, and 3x3 stabilizer.
There is also a pergola with a roof............
Plan on spending some time on a ladder..........
Oh, by the way, those through bolts are $10.00 each
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
arbor12.jpg......
What I want to know, is, how did you get them to set those mountains in just the right place for that picture ?
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quittintime
"What I want to know, is, how did you get them to set those mountains in just the right place for that picture ?"
the earth rotates. so you just have to wait for the right moment to take the picture.bobl Volo, non valeo
LOL- Bobl 's right........Ya just have to be patient and wait for that rotation..............:-)
Here is some shots of the notches. We notch the pieces to eliminate twisting when the wood dries."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Pro
I always look forward to seeing pictures of your work, rank it right up there with Stan's stairs and gyro pictures.
Doug
Thank you Doug this a shot of a front over garage arbor. I cant wait to go back after the arbors are all covered with flowering Clematis. It sure makes it hard to re-paint the house though. "Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Not sure if your name should be Pr-Arbor or Pro-Deck.....All your work is incredable.
PS...Do you cover the heads of those lag bolts with custom cedar or redwood caps when your finished? LOL
Be the bestest deck/arbor builder
andyMy life is my practice!
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Thanks Andy- Actually the thru bolts add to the scale and strength of the arbor. I like to look at them, remember they cost me $10. bucks each...........:-)"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Roar!!!Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Here is one that I did by a pool. Matt
SCHWEET Matt....arbor/gazebo....cool idea.
Is that you in the pic?J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
"DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"
nice job
how'ed u connect the posts to the ground?bobl Volo, non valeo
Jaybird: That's not me - that what I will look like in 25 years when I get old ;-)
Bobl: There are 12 anchors that were drilled into the slab. Each post has a hole drilled up in the bottom of it so that it sits down on the anchor bolt. The 4 corner posts have cast metal post feet (or whatever you call them), and a 'L' bracket that is held to the bolt with a nut and washer, and the bracket is nailed to the side of the post. A little hard to explain. Matt
once again thanks to everyone for their post. I have some pictures that i will post soon. maybe even tonight. i would appreciate all comments on them.
thanksAn inch to short. That's the story of my life !
bstcrpntr --- I hope to grow into this name.
I`m begining to think he`s setting up a "blue screen" behind each of his projects.
Seriously Pro.....nice work!J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
"DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"
Thanks Jaybird, Here is a shot of a perimeter arbor at my house."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Pro-Dek
Just to jump on the bandwagon, nice job on the deck arbors. Very well done, I'm sure the pics don't do them justice.
Bob
the pictures are just lovely Pro-dek
but you should FLOG the customers of arbor 7 jpeg for putting those crappy green plastic chairs anywhere near your work------really spoils the view!
Thanks for the complements - Here is a shot of a Privacy screen arbor and a small perimeter deck arbor."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
how do yall keep the rain off your head.
Arbors generally get a nice cover of some type of climbing plant over time. They are mostly there for the shade and are considered ladscape elements more than structural elements.
I don't know if I could bring myself to plant a future cover for Pro-Dek's work though.Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Thanks Kevin, Bob, you guys are too kind.......
What I like about perimeter arbors is after you plant a wisteria or clematis it not only offers a shady spot on the deck but it also softens the edges of the deck and makes a nice spot to add more color by installing hanging baskets between the posts or from the posts.
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
thanks everyone for responding. What I am looking for is in fact a pergola. The issue of money is not a problem this is a good customer and the last straw to finishing his house. The pics help if there are more please send as I still haven't finalized anythign with him. thanks again . The permit issue is nothing here as we have a permit to build a house with a patio and arbor (pergola) above. Shoot they dont even check the wiring where we are building this one.
An inch to short. That's the story of my life !
bstcrpntr --- I hope to grow into this name.
rain we get about six inches per month. some of that yellow fiberglass sheeting at HD would look good up there, maybe green.
Rain????????? What rain?????? It never rains in Seattle..........
Actually, I'm working on a plan for an octagon gazebo with a breeze way on each side that will have a glass or Lexan roof to keep you dry. It poses a bit of a problem structurally because their will be no sheathing to help take make the roof more rigid. I'll have to incorporate cables and turn buckles to take out the sway.
Now the only problem will be keeping the birds from flying through the glass to rest on the cables...............:-) "Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Nice looking work, very Nice.
Is that Redwood or Western Red Cedar?
Clay
Thanks Clay,
Oddly enough we use Western red cedar in Western Washington and redwood in Eastern Washington even though Eastern Washington is further away from California.
Now why they use more Redwood over there is anyones guess. My guess is that redwood handles the extreme temperature variances better. They often will spike a 40 degree variance in temperature over there."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Nice work Bob.