Does anyone know of any information on how to make inside and outside miters in standard ogee aluminium gutters?
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Welcome to Breaktime.
I use ready made I/O corners corners for my installs. Not an answer to your guestion, I know.
However this will serve as a pump to keep your question in view longer, untill someone comes along that has done this with alum. gutters.
Dave
yup thanks dave. I cant believe no one knows! I had a gutter guy show me how to make them with the use of a speed square and snips to make the tabs. but that was such a long time ago I cant really remember the details.
ok yes Im waffling here, but I'm also trying to keep it at the top to get an answer!
I always just bought prefabed inside and outside corners. There is already enough places for gutters to leak without adding potential problems. Especially when I am no pro tin man.
I have a house full of cornice returns which I want to have the gutters wrap. Using a pre fab would look really ugly. When the miters are done right they have less chance of leaking than a pre fab.
You can't solder alum. like copper. But maybe miter with a 1/2 extra,on one side, cut yer tabs and bend , pop rivet and gutter caulk the inside.
Use the right color rivets and maybe it wont be too visible if it's high up.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Sell your cleverness, Purchase Bewilderment"...Rumi
thats exactly how I remember it done. Can you elaborate on where to cut the tabs? I guess its kinda difficult without being able to draw it out.
Search the FHB archives. I just downloaded an article over the weekend that explains some of what you are asking.
THanks everyone! Looks like I can figure it out from all the info here. I like this site! makes me wonder what took me so long to log on!
It's not that difficult, takes a little time.
For both inside and outside corners you miter one side and let the other side run long about 1/2" , the only difference is when you are doing the inside corner leave the back of the gutter uncut so you can do a bend there.
Then you cut the tabs to meet the cut miter, the cuts will be closer where the profile has more curve to it. Then gutter seal and color matched rivets.
Buy a premade miter. Take it apart and use each side for a template to cut the miter on the long piece of gutter. Keep the patterns for future use. Then do as above - cut one side 1/2" longer and slit back to your line and bend the tabs to fit inside the other side. Rivet and caulk. I don't like the extra joints created by the premade miter and avoid them if possible.
You're almost as paranoid as the people that're trying to kill me.
Yeah, what you said...LOL
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Sell your cleverness, Purchase Bewilderment"...Rumi
ya beat me to it.......nowwwwwwwwwww....if yer in NY ya wanna do my copper gutters? I have em' all but just too busy and out maybe a dozen gutter guys I called no one wants to do em with gutters that I bought....reckon they wanna getthe market up....so charge me a bit extra, right...ugh.
Go figure.
Be well
a...The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
I might just have to take off a month and do a working vacation road trip.
Last time someone bought their own gutters and wanted me to hang them, they had the wrong hangers for their application and I'd never seen the brand of gutter they had. It was slightly different (the bead rolled to the inside, rather than the outside) from what is readily available to me and none of my patterns or jigs would quite work on it. It had been laying outside for a long time (apparently on the ocean floor) and every piece was kinked in the middle. I had to politely decline. I didn't want my name associated with that mess. You're almost as paranoid as the people that're trying to kill me.
yeh but I'm yer brother
: )
Be well.
a...The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
Hey, b4 I forget...I just heard the news..W.6th and Broadway ( my old residence) Someone on Sunday..STOLE the gutters and DS!!! You and Dale did that job I think.
Anyway, I figgure they used the ladder they stole from Dale to reach the gutter.LOL
And >>>I Need Drip edge Tomorrow!
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Sell your cleverness, Purchase Bewilderment"...Rumi
They got the ones we just installed at N Bdwy and the houses on either side also.
If you get this before you leave, I'm sick as hell, but I'll get your drip made right now if you can pick it up. I see dumb people.
did greencu invent the flu too?
Andy, do you know where you can get half round galvanized gutters on Long Island. I am getting some crazy prices (more than my roof cost) to have them installed. Will have to do them myself, but I can't find a source on the island.
Toni
BradcoThe secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
I made a living installing "trough " back in the 50,s. We made everything in those days right on the job site.
anyways, make your 'V' miter cut (rear to front bead Note; DO NOT cut the main bead on an outside corner) And DO NOT cut the rear on an inside corner.
The 'V' is the width of the trough on both sides of center.
On one cut make sure you leave an extra 1/2" in order to rivet the joint.
you have to slit notch the lap at the ogee curves.
Before rivetting ,run a bead of caulk along the lap edge.
Clear as mud, but it may help you somewhat
Edited 3/29/2005 8:38 am ET by Hube
Well, this may not answer your question but...
There are more than one type of pre-made I/O corners. The first type is big and bulky, maybe 5" on each side. The second type (called a strip miter) is much smaller and IMO much better looking. Perhaps you could take a look at strip miters and see if they will work for you.