Well, it doesn’t really have to be instant<!—-> I had this pull
made up for this door
The pull was lacquered, but as it was being installed, the lacquer started falling off!?! The client agreed that maybe lacquer wasn’t such a hot idea, so I took it off. The pull has been laying around for a while, and has not been getting more attractive. Clients don’t want it to get to the green stage, but do like the nice, kinda even brown look. Is there anyway to hasten that?… besides paint LOL<!—->
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I don't think you said what the metal was. Looks like copper... Someone told me "pee on it". Maybe I heard that here.... :-) Haven't tried it...
D'oh... 'tis copper... I thought pee made it green... dang, I know mine would.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
It will never turn green in an indoor environment -- just dark brown if it's copper, brass or bronze.
If you want to chemically accelerate the process, stained glass suppliers have potions to do that -- different mixes for different amounts/colors of patina.
Mike Hennessy
Pittsburgh, PA
Everything fits, until you put glue on it.
Yeah, there's probably even something available at a local craft shop.
As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
Thanks, I'm sorta hoping for a recommendation of something somebody's actually used with good results<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
I HAVE used the stuff from stained glass stores & it works well. You just have to make sure you get all the lacquer off first or the patina will get blotchy since it won't turn colors unless it's bare metal.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PAEverything fits, until you put glue on it.
Edit: Anyhooz, you can always do a test on the back side.
Edited 9/26/2009 4:11 pm ET by MikeHennessy
I have looked at a lot of stuff that is said to turn copper green... are you talking brown, and what is the name of the product? Thanks.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Don't remember the name. I do recall that they had jars of chemicals that would turn metal brown, dark brown or black -- different jars for different colors. I used some 4 or 5 years ago to "bronze" some brass hinges for a window seat the color of an old penny.Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PAEverything fits, until you put glue on it.
Hey Mr Inventor...yer being paged
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I agree that it likely won't turn green indoors, especially with it being handled constantly. It's also gonna be tough to keep it an even color without laquer or some sort of coating on it. Might look at auto finishes.
copper p0rn
I just want to get rid of the shine... tone it down to brown. I think I could get some squirrel #### from a couple of guys here<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Try some amonia - highly dilluted until it turns the color you want.copper p0rn
Thank you, sir... I hate the smell of squirrel pee.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
PS you're probably lucky you didn't get involved in this<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
IIRC it's Potassium Dichromate that does what ya want. try a pharmacy. Coat it and bag it overnight. Then remove and rinse off, then relacquer or poly or varnish it.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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I got some nice old brass hinges full of paint. I soaked them in Citrua Strip. The many layers of paint came off and it left a reddy kind of finish. It looked good so I just left it.Maybe orange hand cleaner would work also, should have some or that around.
There are services that will recoat items like that, using proprietary coatings. Regular varnish or lacquer isn't durable enough to keep them shiny, especially when used as a door handle.
Baldwin uses ionized silver, it's transparent, but "plates" the brass with a nano layer of silver.
Big added $$$ for the "lifetime" finish.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Baldwin AHHHRRR! Like homer looking at food."There are three kinds of men: The one that learns by reading, the few who learn by observation and the rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."Will Rogers
I installed old ( 1915) casements with BB butt hinges, 3x3...lifetime finish...75 bucks a pair!
Screws were still junk.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You have to REAL crefull with those screws."There are three kinds of men: The one that learns by reading, the few who learn by observation and the rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."Will Rogers
<Regular varnish or lacquer isn't durable enough to keep them shiny, especially when used as a door handle.><g>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Commercial plating shop I worked in oxidized copper, brass, and silver by dipping it in a solution of liquid sulfur.. also called "liver of sulfur".
The solution is sold over the counter I believe by jewelry supply houses. Oily brown liquid.
After dipping the piece in the sulphur it was dipped into a water rinse bath then a hot bath of of a degreasing solution.
It would turn copper deep brown instantly , black within a few minutes, same with the other metals. Buff the piece to highlight it and then lacquer.
I have read that putting a sliced hardpoiled egg and the small piece into a plastic bag for a day or two will produce the same effect.
Here is a link to a jewelery site that discusses the method using liver of sulphur.
http://www.hodgepodgerie.com/liver-of-sulfur-patina.html
Edit:
Clean All oils of the piece before trying to oxidize.
Use NEW cotton gloves to handle the piece once it is dipped, rinsed, buffed and degreased if you are going to lacquer it.
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Edited 9/26/2009 6:11 pm by dovetail97128
Hi Snort,
anyway to hasten that?...
Horse ####.....never tried Mule ####.....but the Horse stuff does the job every time
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Ya know what's weird? I actually have access to horse, mule, donkey, and burro apples... I have placed myself well, no?http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Makes sense, I've seen what Mrs 'Snort's eggs do to silverware<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
None of those, but got a backyard filled with deer apples.
As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
Hey Snort,
Ya know what's weird? I actually have access to horse, mule, donkey, and burro apples... I have placed myself well, no?
Hmmm.....North, South, East & West......sounds like you're either an agri or vet major at NC State or you live in a dorm at Carolina.....HEE HAW!!!!!!!!
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I use Jax - works great -
http://shorinternational.com/OxidizerColorant.htm
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Easiest way I've found to remove lacquer is to throw the piece into boiling water.
Edited 9/28/2009 12:20 am ET by Jeff_Clarke
Interesting on the water and the Jax... thanks.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up