This pic of a whole-house makeover, from a photo essay in the March ’07 issue of Hanley Wood’s Custom Home magazine, shows a nifty flared-mansard treatment, the roofing done in cedar shingles, a duet of ways to do dormers on and through the mansard, and a porch with cut-through openings.
Look close at the teenie little shingled hips adjacent the cut-through-the-eave dormer. Nice work.
The article credits Ray Construction, West Greenwich, RI, with the work, done at Jamestown, RI.
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I love that house! It's featured in the book Creating the Inspired House
http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Inspired-House-Discovering-Called/dp/1561586919/ref=sr_1_1/104-6455039-3505528?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176411697&sr=8-1
It's a remodel, to me a superb example of keeping the best of the old while making it completely new.
I'm doing some flared shingle returns now. It's definitely tricky!
I like the corner detail, but all in all, my feeling is that it looks awfully busy--like the designer couldn't decide on one way of doing it, so did it several ways. Why does a mansard need dormers anyway?--I thought the whole reason for a mansard roof was to provide living area under the roof--though I guess dormers do let light into it. In that case I'd do the shed dormer thing. (But, then, my work isn't in books, so....)
yes that is a beauty.. especially after what I have just been through. We had an architect completely botch an addition to a runt of a similar period mansard/gambrel house. I had to make the best of bad lineups etc. and wish I could have started better. Its starting to look ok but it doesn't have the grace of the proportions they have on that frieze etc.
arthur
they did a nice job... as far as i know the only thing added was that shingled opening in the rear mansard
everything else was just restored to it's originial glory
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You'd know better than I would Mike, but according to the article they enlarged the windows. They call the house next to it its twin.
Edited 4/12/2007 11:10 pm ET by woodguy99
Maybe they wererequired larger windows for some egress but that ruined the house if it had looked like the one next door.
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Agreed!
Forrest
Agree times two.The only justification I can see for adding the large windows in the front dormers, there has to be a "view" view in that direction.Still, I like the prefer the scale and style of the original.
It's all a matter of personal taste, isn't it?of course you and I have exquisite taste...;)
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According to the article the house was known as "the ghost house" and had been abandoned for a long time. It needed extensive work.
The owners could have chosen to restore it to it's original condition and live in a museum. Instead they chose to keep it's beautiful bones but inside those bones created a bright, open, upside-down house full of light and designed for the way THEY live, not the way somebody lived 100 years ago. That's why I like it.
Plus I think it looks cool.
I'm betting there could have been more appropriate ways to do it respecting the exterior.I have worked with a lot of archies and found that some have primary emphasis on the interior details while others have greater focus on the exterior or on space planning. It is rare to find one who works to balance all of the above. if the owners are happy, I'm happy
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The remodel is the ugly twin.
Ah! The puritans speak! Keep the old, and out with the new! No frivolous decorations!
Cromwell's men stood on their saddles, sledges swinging, when they rode all over England knocking the heads off the statues of the churches, during their little reign of terror. Some of their descendents must have slipped over to New England. ;-)
I don't particularly like the one next door, and most of the time, when you see two houses of that vintage side-by-side, it bespeaks "design build" or "builder using pattern book," houses done cookie-cutter, no archy even close.
These Jamestown houses in the photos weren't like the ones being built for the rich and famous down the bay and out on the points. Those big ponderous "cottages" were mostly architect-designed. These two look like rather pedestrian foursquares, with mansard and turret paste-ons.
I'm not in love with everything architects do, but this time I think they got it right. But, hey, that's what makes the world go 'round. If there were no differing opinions, we'd all be Democrats.
It looks as if Estes and the owners were going for the bay view, in placing the principal common living spaces on the top floor, and enlarging the windows.
Here is the inside shot, looking out the windows.
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Those collar ties are sweet. That looks like a great house inside.
Sorry - if there were no differing opinions, we'd all be Socialists
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piffen, Naw, we would be clones. Socialists have differing opinions.
Yeah, I notice you guys differ from us Republicans.
;)
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piffen ,
lol... Aeyep !
I'm going away for a day or two, but am still trying to pump out that rundown of ways to do a valley roofing.
Iwanted to do the subject jutice so it will take awhile yet. I haven'ty forgotten you.This thread actuallybrings in another method to mind since some mansard walls get treated more like wall flashing
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piffen, You are a good man M'Gee.
hey , you're right !
i see , but i'm blind
actually i'm with you.
they have a $3 million dollar view, so the new window size really lightens up the interior and allows the view
right down the street there are triplets ( the "Three Sisters" )... mebbe i can get you a view of what they see from the subject house and the 3 sistersMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I don't see any teeny hips.
You sure you are stating it right?
blue
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Teenie hip here. I guess I shoulda called it a return.
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Okay, I see what you're talking about now.
Acutually, those returns are faster for the framer...so they get my vote!
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no "ghost " house.. just the usual elderly person, letting the place run down around her..
did a walk-thru with a prospective buyer.. they passed
anyways.. comming down the hill this is across Walcott Ave from the East Passage
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and here's the view from their front stoop, looking to the left ( North )
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and looking right out their front door ( East ) with Newport across the Bay
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here's a comparison shot..
the front of the Remodeled house..
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and the front of the restored house next door
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Edited 4/13/2007 8:50 pm ET by MikeSmith
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here's the "Three Sisters" down the hill and a block north
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the Marina right in front of the Three Sisters
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Edited 4/13/2007 8:50 pm ET by MikeSmith
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Am I close, Mike?
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no... you're sitting in my chair at Ken's Babershop.....
three blocks south will get you to the 3 sisters
and three more blocks will get you to the old Krotti House
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Edited 4/13/2007 11:17 pm ET by MikeSmith
Thanks Mike--
I like the restored house
But I love the renovated house.
Gene,
Have you ever seen houses where the dormers are actually in the hips?
First time I saw it was when I was framing a house at the Jersey shore.
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