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Invent this?

Sphere | Posted in Tools for Home Building on November 12, 2005 08:20am

How’s about we start here.?

I’llwager 12 Einstiens can kill 2. SCHwagger? bet..yep.

This my challange ( oh my god I am turning Brownnbagg)

Make me an idea..

Fixed at the roof hanging  scaffold, gotta be like  buck of weight. pivot foot for withdrawl facto, a 20” wide pic and safty /work plank outrigged

The less info i give, the more info I get, right:”..????

Let us fabricate, and not constipulate

Google is fair play, and shipyard venacular is welcomeeem as long as we don’t get too” U ness on the conn”, that don’t fly.

Seriously..I wanna build a roof hung , 5×5 .outriggers, and shid..it must be done..

Are they all dead ? Really?

Riggers, Iron guys?

Do not make me dig yer azzes up and buy yet more Similac!

I want all of your collective memories to show up, with _______

You know the words..show me. 

  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

” it is your reflection , silly” ..Dare I say?

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  1. jerseyjeff | Nov 12, 2005 09:37am | #1

    Ok, cant sleep, so I will bite....

    I have always been intrigued by I-beam trolleys, 

    http://www.fall-arrest.com/railcarfallprotection/trolley.htm

    and if you could some how secure a beam to the roofline than you could use a window washer rig and go back and forth all over the building....

    I would add a set of wheels perpendicular to the platform to help standoff from the house...

     

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      Sphere | Nov 12, 2005 10:10am | #2

      No can do that..go to seep, we have time.  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      " you? YOU!? Are actually listening to that CRAP????

      How about? going to werk, how about"...I can't do it, it aint fair..but

      HOW ABOUT THAT REZ GUY? UH HUH? ...He ain't Silesien I bet....wimp

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        Homewright | Nov 12, 2005 02:07pm | #3

        Spare the rigging and just get  a helium enema before work every day...

      2. jerseyjeff | Nov 12, 2005 07:36pm | #5

        hmmm.   new thought

        Use ropes,  and rig a tyrollean traverse across the roof line, using a couple of these

        http://www.petzl.com=

        and then rig a bosuns chair to drop down to the work. 

         

        1. seeyou | Nov 12, 2005 10:57pm | #6

          http://www.prplimited.com/products.asp?product=7Birth, school, work, death.....................

          http://grantlogan.net/

          1. jerseyjeff | Nov 13, 2005 02:22am | #7

            yep I think thats what is needed,  but since I am terrified of heights I will watch from down here.

             

          2. seeyou | Nov 13, 2005 02:25am | #8

            I meant to post that to sphere. That's the jumping off place, so to speak.Birth, school, work, death.....................

            http://grantlogan.net/

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            Sphere | Nov 13, 2005 02:36am | #9

            sorry, I just don't get the idea..izzat one joint holding the rig?  Looks really wobbly and stupid.

            We ( you know us) came up with a plan that has an arm on top to tie it together..feels more betta.

            But like you said, a jumping off place fer shure..  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            " you? YOU!? Are actually listening to that CRAP????

            How about? going to werk, how about"...I can't do it, it aint fair..but

            HOW ABOUT THAT REZ GUY? UH HUH? ...He ain't Silesien I bet....wimp

  2. stinger | Nov 12, 2005 05:13pm | #4

    Long ago and far away, I was in the industrial metal siding business.  Worked for an outfit that did big jobs, auto assembly plants, power plants, you name it, all engineer, manufacture, fabricate, and install.

    The lion's share of what we did all had flat roofs, so we used our own shop-made rolling outriggers, I-beam aluminum, two big wheel trucks each, large counterweight trays to hold the counterweight array (steel 4x4x12 bricks with D-handles), electric winch hoists for the scaffolding, electric drive for the ground pull, hanging sideladders for an array of up to 5 picks all with backrails and tool holders, ready to go at 180 feet up on a powerhouse turbine room wall.

    Take the construction elevator up to the top floor, walk over to the wall, step out on a pic, take a deep breath, and look down at your ground-man who looks like an ant down next to the material piles.

  3. level1 | Nov 13, 2005 03:25am | #10

    I'm not 100% sure what you are looking for, but awhile ago I designed and built scaffold that hung from the roof.  It consisted of a metal plate lag-bolted to roof, a C shaped metal hook that attached to the roof plate and would hang over and around the eaves, and a 20' length of square tube that attached to the C and hung down the wall.  I fabricated an L shaped arm to hold scaffold planks.  The arm slid up and down the square tube that was next to the wall.  To raise and lower these arms I attached a worm-drive boat winch with a cable running up to the C at the eaves.  My trusty 18 volt driver worked great to run the winch.

    I built 7 of these pole/brackets to accomodate six 10' planks for a 60' long wall.  This was backyard engineering at its finest.  To test the strength of my design, I attached this setup to a forklift and lifted the back end of a pickup truck.  It was plenty strong, and with the railing and bench attached to the back of the planks, it felt very secure.  We did, however, have everyone harnessed up--just in case.

    If you are interested, I could probably come up with some pictures.

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      Sphere | Nov 13, 2005 07:37pm | #16

      A pic or even a drawing would really be sweet. We have welders and set up area to build it all.

      Experiance of making our trailer racks has shown me, I want to avoid as many bolt holes as possible, drilling a 3/4" hole in the 2"sq tubing was a real pain in the elbow.

      We are ambitious and just a tad eccentric, but not totally crazy yet.  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      " you? YOU!? Are actually listening to that CRAP????

      How about? going to werk, how about"...I can't do it, it aint fair..but

      HOW ABOUT THAT REZ GUY? UH HUH? ...He ain't Silesien I bet....wimp

  4. PaulC | Nov 13, 2005 04:59am | #11

    Here's a terrifying idea for a roof anchor:

    View Image

    Yes, it's a big pile of weights that you attach your system to. 660 lbs for a single anchor, or 880 lbs at either end of a horizontal lifeline. they say it's solid, but I'd have visions of it coming right down on top of me; "he survived the fall, but then..."

    How about this one: you could just stick yourself directly to the wall.

    View Image

    Yes, that's right. what you need is a great big electric suction cup.

    Problem solved.

     

     

    Amateurs talk strategy, Generals talk logistics.

    1. joeh | Nov 13, 2005 05:37am | #12

      Paul, first thing that came to mind..........

      Bricklayer's Story This is a bricklayer's accident report that was printed in the newsletter of the English equivalent of the Workers' Compensation Board. Dear Sir: I am writing in response to your request for additional information in Block #3 of the accident reporting form. I put "Poor Planning" as the cause of my accident. You asked for a fuller explanation and I trust the following details will be sufficient. I am a bricklayer by trade. On the day of the accident, I was working alone on the roof of a new six story building. When I completed my work, I found I had some bricks left over which when weighed later were found to weigh 240 lbs. Rather than carry the bricks down by hand, I decided to lower them in a barrel by using a pulley which was attached to the side of the building at the sixth floor. Securing the rope at ground level, I went up to the roof, swung the barrel out and loaded the bricks into it. Then I went down and untied the rope, holding it tightly to insure a slow descent of the 240 lbs of bricks. You will note on the accident reporting form that my weight is 135 lbs. Due to my surprise at being jerked off the ground so suddenly, I lost my presence of mind and forgot to let go of the rope. Needless to say, I proceeded at a rapid rate up the side of the building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel which was now proceeding downward at an equally impressive speed. This explains the fractured skull, minor abrasions and the broken collarbone, as listed in Section 3, accident reporting form. Slowed only slightly, I continued my rapid ascent, not stopping until the fingers of my right hand were two knuckles deep into the pulley which I mentioned in Paragraph 2 of this correspondence. Fortunately by this time I had regained my presence of mind and was able to hold tightly to the rope, in spite of the excruciating pain I was now beginning to experience. At approximately the same time, however, the barrel of bricks hit the ground-and the bottom fell out of the barrel. Now devoid of the weight of the bricks, the barrel weighed approximately 50 lbs. I refer you again to my weight. As you might imagine, I began a rapid descent down the side of the building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel coming up. This accounts for the two fractured ankles, broken tooth and severe lacerations of my legs and lower body. Here my luck began to change slightly. The encounter with the barrel seemed to slow me enough to lessen my injuries when I fell into the pile of bricks and fortunately only three vertebrae were cracked. I am sorry to report, however, as I lay there on the pile of bricks, in pain, unable to move and watching the empty barrel six stories above me, I again lost my composure and presence of mind and let go of the rope.

      1. jerseyjeff | Nov 13, 2005 06:25am | #13

        there was a myth busters episode about the barrel of bricks,  and it was super extra funny....  not as funny as the frozen chicken cannon, or packing a cement truck full of explosives,  or launching the caddilac,  but still funny...

         

      2. dinothecarpenter | Nov 13, 2005 07:16am | #14

        That was funny. thanks.

        Ok. here is a good one. This story remind me of a job.

        An old fire damaged apt. bld. in Bergen NJ.

        The problem was the demo and the carrying of materials due to small stairways and no parking for a boom truck.

        The solution was to remove 2 side by side windows and build a crane.

        Few 2x12s and 2x4s some heavy duty pulleys, long heavy rope and a small pick up truck.   We tight the rope to the truck and use the parking of another building to lower and raise the platform with debris or materials.

        That was an insurance job. The "manual" labor to do this was estimated at $40.000 ? (give or take few) That was the safest and funniest money from any job before.

        At the final inspection the adjustor was going nuts.

        --How many guys  you have working here? That was so fast.

        Six. and ...my guys start laughing. ...the Mazda construction co.

        We outsource all the  heavy work.

         

        YCf

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        Huck | Nov 13, 2005 09:50am | #15

        Didn't I see that on Loony Toons?

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