I have a space that is 3 ft 10 inches by 7 ft 2 inches. I would like to install a full bath ( a shower stall….no tub) but wonder if I must settle for a half bath due to the small space. Any suggestions as to how I might configure a full bath? The door will open into another room if that is pertinent. Thanks.
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In keeping with Dan's disclaimers
If the door is in the middle (or so) of the long wall. Shower to the left with room. Sink straight ahead-Probably wall mount or pedestal (might find an extreemly not deep vanitly-or build it- perhaps a bureau with a vessel sink on top-spout out of wall). Corner toilet on right.
You can also save space in front of the toilet by using one in this link, either the high tank or the concealed tank. Either one lets you mount the bowl much closer to the back wall.
http://www.nextag.com/concealed-tank-toilet/shop-html
I've also seen pictures of a combo toilet/sink, for really tight quarters. I forget exactly what it looked like, but, in spite of it sounding like "early jailhouse", it didn't look too bad (though not great either).
But this situation doesn't call for such extreme measures. The only real issue is whether you're going to run afoul of code somehow.
Gosh they put toilet sink in way less than half that ... on airplanes. So adding a shower should be easy!! ;)
Glad the door opens into another room ... as opposed to what ... opening into the outdoors?
That is tight and as others said ... a LOT depends on the proposed door location. But code may pose some serious problems. I've seen a lot of baths in a tight space. You may have to forego a shower door (personally I don't like them anyway ... I've seen some where the shower area shared the toilet area ... just a drain in the floor.
Toilet Paper
>>>The trick was keeping the toilet paper dry<<<
Can't control myself, I found this on AOL recently:
View Image3. Loo Tax
In Newark, N.J., city workers will soon have to start bringing their own toilet paper to work because the city isn't buying it anymore.
See full article from WalletPop: http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/07/28/unpopular-taxes-and-fees-cropping-up-everywhere-in-the-nickel-an/?icid=sphere_copyright
This should be an interesting situation when people start using emergency substances when they forgot to bring some. LOL
yes it's possible
The toilet is the space hog, so let's start with that. The toilet needs a minimum of 21" in front of it (knee space), standard toilets range from about 26" for a round bowl to 28" for an elongated. A toilet that size will force you to center it on one of the short sidewalls, the depth of the toilet plus the 21" kneespace will really project into your floor space, leaving no room for the sink.
I'd recommend a wall hung toilet. A little more work to install, but they range in the 22" depth range, so you could hang it on the long 86" long wall. The 22" depth plus the 21" kneespace comes to 43", a few inches less than your 46" dimension.
Laterally, the toilet needs a minimum of 15" on either side of it's centerline. So the toilet will need 30" on your long wall, for argument sake let's put it on the right side of the room.
Logic will put the shower on the opposite end of the bathroom, let's say on the left. The shower needs a minimum dimension of 30". Bump it to 32" for a bit more elbow room and you have a 32" by 46" shower. Easy.
The long wall is 86", with the toilet taking 30" off the right and the shower 32" off the left, that leaves 24" of wall for the sink.
For the sink, you need 21" minimum of standing room depth in front of the sink. A vanity with undersink doors/draws might be a bit tight in terms of accessing the undersink storage, so a pedestal sink might be a better option.
For storage, access the stud bays will a built-in wall pantry, think medicine cabinet on steroids. Build it out into the room a couple of inches, and with the 3-1/2" of stud bay depth coupled with bringing it into the room a couple of inches, you can have 5" depth storage. Good for rolls of tp, cleaning supplies, etc.
I'd have the bathroom entry door swing out, not into the bathroom. Or use a pocket door.
With shower, sink and toilet it'll be classified as a 3/4 bath, not a full bath.
With shower, sink and toilet it'll be classified as a 3/4 bath, not a full bath.
Used to be. Now RE agents will look at you funny if you start talking about 3/4 baths.
We could also be honest here and admit that most people in the privacy of their own homes don't close the door anyway. So if you put the terlet right in behind the door, you have virtually unlimited leg room. :)
Combine shower and sink?
My cousins used to live in a tenement in NYC where their kitchen sink and bathroom tub/shower were one and the same fixture. Gross, I know. But it got me to thinking, that it might be kind of cool, from both a design and use standpoint, if you put the sink in the shower. I'm thinking a curbless shower on one end of the room and a wall mounted sink on the same wall as the shower. That gives you several feet of standing room in front of the sink, and could have a wonderful design and feel. Bonus is you only need one bar of soap. The other end of the room could be toilet, towels and storage. If you use a wall mounted sink, a wall mounted toilet would help the room look cohesive, as well as giving you a few more inches to work with on clearance in front of the toilet.
Easy
Toilet at one end. A 12-inch deep cabinet above it to store things in.
Sink in the shower at the other end, all the fixtures in the end wall. You could use a standard diverter valve set up for a bathtub with shower, and feed the sink and shower head with one valve. The shower gooseneck, would work best if there was a small dropped ceiling extending the depth of the sink so that it ends up above the front edge of the sink.
Put a shallow, (I'm thinking 8-inch deep), vanity in the middle across from the door.
Just put the shower drain near a corner in a bit of a well and you have the toilet taken care of.
Been there, done that
I lived in a one room shop for 15 years with a bathroom this size; alright, it was 4' wide. Anyway, we did it by having the sink be in the shower, with the toilet beside, just inside of the outward swinging door. There was a curb made of brick to keep the water to the correct side, and a tub/shower faucet in the sink. We just used the tub spout that came with the kit, it looked like a big nose jutting out of the 'face' of the sink. The sink was a basic hang-on-the-wall type requiring no vanity There was a cabinet built over the toilet to hold the towels, toiletries, etc, and 3 towel racks on the wall opposite the toilet. With a fabric curtain on a spring loaded pole, the shower was large enough for two. We did finally move out into our as yet unfinished house, and yes, my husband is a contractor.
Just to get off the revelry for a second, I think you can see that there are numerous options, and you don't have to be especially creative to fit things in the space you have. You do want to think about it a bit, though, to make sure the layout will be comfortable and reasonably easy to get around in. It would be worth it to mockup the layout, maybe in another bathroom -- put cardboard boxes adajcent to the toilet to duplicate the walls and sink, block off an area outside of your existing shower/tub and see how much you need to get in/out, dry off, and dress, put boxes or a chair behind you at a sink to see how much butt space you need, etc.
Then, of course, inquire of the BI as to whether there are any restrictions you need to observe.
Oh, and you might want to consider future occupants. If you have an overweight inlaw that may visit, make sure there's reasonable room for them. Consider installing grab bars now -- a tight bathroom is easier to get around in if there are grab bars for in/out of the shower, getting off the toilet, etc. At the very least install blocking, take pictures of it with a yardstick in view, and tack the envelope with the picture prints (maybe with some notations) in a closet somewhere nearby.
Could you build a bump out and 'recess' the sink in the middle of the long wall?
so it would be.
Toilet, sink in bump out, shower.
There are also toilets with the sink in the top of the tank on the toilet.
or you could put the toilet at one end, sink at the other with the shower just in-front of the sink.
So when you use the shower you have a wrap around curtain.
Think along the designs used overseas or in trailers on this one.
I really don't think that anything exotic is needed. The dimensions quoted are not much different from millions of homes built in the 30s-60s, and they did just fine (if a hair primitive by current standards).
Exotic! I guess we have differing opinions on what exotic is.
A standard wet bath design(often used in england) or a bump out for the sink or a sink in the top of the toilet would be 3 viable options to maximize the space.
Yes you can squeeze in a toilet sink & shower, but why when you can get so much more out of the space with little extra cost.
Depending on where the door is (which I don't think has been well established) there's plenty of length for the three fixtures, it's just that the space is a bit shallow. Combining fixtures won't really help in that dimension.
Nope,
There's no need to straddle the toilet while washing your hands in almost any door configuration in that bath.
I didn't look, did the OP come back or is this another phantom visit.
His thread-starter is his only post, and he only joined shortly before that.
I sent him a message.
And the pisser is you don't really know if they're read because of the dropped (read/unread) key that worked so well BR (b/4 Revson)
Hopefully Mr Morrison will check back in an move some buttons upon his return from Vacation-all rested up and ready to get at it.
I sent a PM and corresponded in short bursts...............
Don't know what happened-I included a link to this thread and that's that.
Mentioned "the new forum" so the OP might be a renamed former member.
No wonder they can't find the place.
Ah well.
(As a matter of fact, the OP apparently hasn't been back since he started the thread.)
Is a bathroom possible?
Thanks for all the good suggestions. As for the amusing comment about the door opening into the room .I was unclear. Was trying to clarify that the door would not open into the bathroom which would make the room arrangement even tighter. The door has to go on the long wall. Appreciate the tips on spacesaving toilets. I'll report back when we start construction.
That's all you got?
And you replied to yourself......................
Jen, this is a discussion board (or it was and might be someday). How bout a discussion? There's been replies since you last came-and questions too. What the hell, waste some time with us. We need the encouragement. I think for the most part those that replied were interested in your project.
Sure, you can wait till you start-but planning is everything.
Best of luck.
http://www.acorneng.com/acorn
The link I was trying to put here isn;t working!
You mean this one?
http://www.acorneng.com/
Bathroom
Thats the one, I was going to respond to the original post with some jailhouse fixtures that take up less space as a joke ;)
I guess everything is possible.
The most ackward space turned into a master bath (per real estate agent's suggestion) that I have ever seen was turning a
2'6" x8' closet in a master bedroom into a master bath.
The toilet is on the left the shower is on the right and the pedestal sink is in the middle. You open up the bifold doors to get into the bathroom, and you can't close the door if your at the sink.
Some suggestions are just so impactical.
Oh, and yes there still is a 2'6" x 3'-0" master closet in the master bedroom.