Is anyone out there using a Troll? Do you like it? Worth $30? I’d be using it for plywood, not drywall.
Is there any difference between the “drywall board carrier lifter” and the “panel handler”? The pics and descriptions look the same.
jt8
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I met you, at your size..I'd say no.
I have the same arm length issue as you , I think it is fine for less tall folks..but us xl or tall guys, it may not be the answer.
Problem I have is a midget on the OTHER end, up stairs or on a roof..hell. (G)
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Does CU know you talk about him like that???
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It's a real back saver for me. I got to move 30 sheets of mdf...worth way more than 30 beans (I'm pretty sure it was only 20 then). Amazingly solid for the price, and the wheels are big enough to roll over extension cords.But, Sphere's right, you may need a handle extension<G> "what's in a name?" d'oh!
Very funny..I meant Dale.
Actually, I think I only worked with Grant on one roof..and it was last winter. we keep him hopping pretty much in his fab shop..tween that and his phone always ringing or us beeping him, he stays outta our way. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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But I'm only 5'18" ;)
You know of any similar items that tall people can use when moving sheets by themselves? Maybe I should look to see if the troll company has a longer handled one.
Oh, and when using a midget, you let him go up the stair first.
jt8
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Edited 10/20/2005 10:22 am by JohnT8
If they don't have a longer handled one, I bet you could get a piece welded in pretty cheap to extend it
and I thought they were using one of those to get you down the isle : )The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
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What did you think of CAG's suggestion of taking the troll to the welder and extending the handle?
Saaaay, the pic with ply in it doesn't even have the guy holding on to the handle. But yeah, I sure take your 'some tools ain't made for tall folks' to heart.
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Edited 10/20/2005 12:59 pm by JohnT8
Absolutly, I modify tools all the time.
Heck, my "copper roofing hammer" is an Estwing BRICK hammer..I cut a vee groove in the flat end and created a nail puller claw. Square face and short handle, long tail end for tweaking the copper..I should patent it.
I use the Lincoln mig ( little buzz box) ALOT..handles 90% of my "tool modifications"...400 bucks or so, and it's 10 yrs old...that and a decent array of grinders and yer all set. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Heck, my "copper roofing hammer" is an Estwing BRICK hammer..I cut a vee groove in the flat end and created a nail puller claw. Square face and short handle, long tail end for tweaking the copper..I should patent it.
Too late.
I just did.
Lemme get this straight....
YOU BANNED REZ?!?!
Holy bagels and lox Batman!
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Oh, also, my first panel toter was a skate board and a rope! Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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the handle is just for carrying the tool. When in use, you steer by holding the rock and pointing where you're going, just like the pic shows.
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and here I thought this thread was about you...LOLThe secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
I first read about the troll here - bought one - love it. Works great. I've used it bringing rock through a narrow crowded living room - easy steering. Easy on the back.
I have one, and I like it for the same reasons noted by Huck.
The main difference between the Troll and a panel lifter is that the former can easily be used on the front of a sheet, whereas with the panel lifter, you usually have to reach over the sheet -- placing the sheet between the lifter and your body.
You can use the panel lifter from the front, but you need a lot more arm strength than I have.
For me, at least, the Troll is pretty useless on stairs.
I'd say if you buy it, you'll like it. But keep a regular panel lifter around too.
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Just picked up one of these...
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Stanley panel carrier......$6....works on stairs & ladders.
May be me....but moving panels across flat surfaces has never been a hassle. Getting em up to the second story and beyond breaks my back. (I`m of average height.)
Lemme get this straight....
YOU BANNED REZ?!?!
Holy bagels and lox Batman!
I`m of average height.
yeah, but you gettin up there in years ;)
I have one of those and like it.
Always wondered about that thing with wheels though
I've got one and use it all the time. It is designed to lean into the panel so you don't have to hang onto the handle. It is well worth the $30.00 asking price as is all the Telpro equipment. I'd like to have the drywall cart but just can't talk myself into dropping the $250.00 to $300.00 asking price, I know I'd use it and it would pay its way in labor savings and give my back a break.
Saw
what do ya have to carry ... how far ... and over what?
my buddy Joe learned me a way to carry pretty much any "panel" over most job site's .. aside from stairs. U gotta go up strairs?
anyways ... if not ... and if so ... for everyone else.
Stand the 4x8 panel on end ... on the 4ft end ... so it's 8 ft in the air.
Now ... back into it.
center yer back ... on the center of the panel ... and give the old reach around.
bend yer knees a bit ... and grasp ... and stand.
full sheets of 3/4 ply never felt so light. Advantec ... same deal. Just lean forward a bit ... and walk. Piece of cake.
interiors and ladders are a problem ... asie from that ... walk on ...
Jeff
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It's the little things that make me happy. No 2nd floor on the next project means I've only got a couple steps to navigate.... as long as you don't count the crawlspace (and I'm not planning on carrying any weighty sheetgood down there). My knees wouldn't have been excited about hoisting a bunch of sheets up a flight of steps (I would have been looking for a window to take out so that they could crane the stuff in).
All you Advantech fanatics have got me to the point of wanting to give it a try. Gotta check the 'preferred fasteners' thread to see what everyone is using. I'm gonna feel like I'm slacking if they tell me to use nails.
Last time I used the 'carry it across your back' technique on ply, I managed to take a hunk of drywall out of the ceiling. jt8
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yer just too damn tall!
if U remember correctly ... I don't have that "take out the ceiling" problem!
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