Thought about posting this over at JLC, and decided I might get some better crack here. <g>
Euro-style cabinets, trying to look like traditional, with raised panel MDF full overlay doors.
Supplier sends out 2 3/4″ crown already attached to a 2 3/4″ pc. of one-by. 45 (I can never remember how to do the Degree Sign) spring angle. Hard maple, white lacquer.
Run of cabinets is 2′, bump out for a 4′ range hood cover, dogleg back, 2 1/2′, corner cab., and return.
This question is really moot, because I already figured out how I would do it. The guy I’m working for thinks we can do it another way (which I am sure will not work) but we’re gonna do it that way, anyway, tomorrow.
Then, I get to be paid twice
(more like three times).
Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel within us. – Eric Hoffer
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This is a TEST,
and you all
WILL BE GRADED!
Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel within us. - Eric Hoffer
After 16 years of education this is the first test I've seen that doesn't ask a question.
The answer is without a doubt 7 miles.
How'd I do?
The answer is without a doubt 7 miles.
Damn, I failed another one!
You gonna do it wrong because you can't explain your RIGHT way to do it? Or just gonna do it wrong on your basic principals?
If it were me, I would discuss it with my co-worker, and do it right the first time.
what's the Q ...
euro crown ...
lay it on top and screw it up.
or down ...
make some cuts first
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry in Carpentry
Pgh, PA
<screw it up
That's exactly what we're gonna do today.Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel within us. - Eric Hoffer
Here you go: °
Yes, I passed this one earlier. What I coudnt figure out was, if it was moot why didnt he hit the cancel button?
"ALT" + "0176" =°
Not that you're doing it the "right" way, would you care to let us know what the wrong way is?
Jon Blakemore
It's over and done now, and I'd really rather forget about it, but I guess I owe you a reply.
We hung the boxes 2 1/4" down from the ceiling, glued the whole zig-zag mess together, reinforced the joints with "L" brackets, beat it in, and screwed up through the inside of the boxes.
What we should have done is: install cleats to the ceiling, install crown, install cabinets.
Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel within us. - Eric Hoffer
(I can never remember how to do the Degree Sign)
ALT+167 with the 167 having to be from the numeric keypad (which is a real pain on a laptop). Vis: º Carefull, ALT+168 is an inverted question mark "¿" which can change a person's meaning <g>
I've never liked traditional crown on frameless cabinets, not matter what the door style. That's a matter of taste, of course. It may also be knowing that it's just a different door style slapped on a euro cabinet. Which may just mean that I'm old fashioned enough to think of a face-framed cabinet as "real" or "traditional."
That, and $4 US will get you a coffee at S'bucks (but a dollar will get you a jug of coffee at IHOP <g>).
I like the full access of frameless cabinets. Easier to clean inside, etc.
The bright white lacquer, I liked too. The last few kitchens I've done, with the dark cherry and the granite - made me muse: "Well, they can christen the grandkids in the sink!"
And those pickled pink things we used to do a few years ago, well I'm still trying to forget those.Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel within us. - Eric Hoffer
Yer Nuts!
I hate installing white kitchens ...
give me wood ....
anyways ... I've done the euro crown both ways ....
starting with the crown first and working my way down ...
and ... setting the cabs and shoving it in last ....
setting the crown first always seems like the better idea ... but for some reason usually ends up being a pain in the end ...
If the crown is "perfect" the cabs are outta whack ...
if the cab's are square the crown is twisted ...
still up in the air as to which way I prefer ....
I usually lean to tweak as ya go.
best yet is a nice wood grain face framed deal with high ceilings so U can reach above and double backscrew the crown for a completely top secret hidden fastener install ....
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry in Carpentry
Pgh, PA
Cabs were square, crown was straight hard maple, and the walls were'nt too bad.
That's the only reason we got away with it (that and the fact that Ray is an incredibly lucky bastid).
If one side got knocked in just a bit too far, there was no way we could have gotten it back out. We should have atleast installed some cleats on top of the cabs to limit how far in it could go.
I like to think about what I'm gonna do, and then do it.
Ray is more the "fly by the seat of your pants" kind of guy.
I guess we compliment each other, but we never work well together.
He's real good with mechanical stuff like dikkin' with the rangehood, etc.(which I really hate) but he'll drive you nuts trying to do something basic like hanging a door.
I kill myself all the time doing stuff without a helper because I'm afraid if I ask him to send me one, he might show up and want to help me himself.
Anyway,
over and done with.
Where's my next source of aggravation?Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel within us. - Eric Hoffer
the full access of frameless cabinets. Easier to clean inside
There's no denying the utility of frameless. The typically melamine coated interior finish sells them like it is going out of style.
But, there's just "something" to a face frame cabinet, particularly with a 3/8" inset door. I'm no fan of the fully inset, flush door, except on furniture (and not so much, then, either)--that really does seem to limit access.
Mostly, I like stiles, stiles are my friends <g> They can be scribed; they tollerate some adjustment--which a slightly-racked frameless cabinet will not. Oh well, it's opionion, and this is not the "opinion" thread <g>Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Carpentry is not a hobby!!!
Hire a real finish carp and go back to hacking up studs !!!!!
Mr T
I can't afford to be affordable anymore
How ya doin'?Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel within us. - Eric Hoffer