Please critique this kitchen island, specifically the pilasters with integral corbels. That granite countertop has a 17″ stickout at the center. Overall size of the stone top is about 44 x 94, and I don’t want to be in the staircase when the countertop grunts are getting it up to the third floor.
The island gets the cooktop and popup vent shown, and is similar in scale to the one in the pic.
The job will be done in clear select doug fir, and the recessed panels you see have milled beads mimicing e&cb t&g “car siding” pattern, 1.5″ centers. Here is the look.
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What? Are you kidding? Critique it? Pilasters...smile afters...get outta here! It's beautiful and completely appropriate to the traditional style of the 'daks.
No wait! I want to see it full scale first. Send it down to my house where it just may get lost for the next few years. Don't forget to send the top.
Gene, you're one of the first people from this board who I'm gonna look up, when I get back to my primary digs in NYS. I want the full tour, all that great looking stuff you show us. I need some inspiration and your work is the perfect fit for what I aspire to do.
Thanks for sharing the drawing. It's a great design, every stick and every curve.
Only one minor detail I would change.
This early in the morning my terminology is still on the shelf...
But that inside curve bottom of corbel - it should be different proportion making it an elipse instead of a radius, The verticle to horizontal should be 8/13.
This will look better and get it up away from knee-knocking space
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You sure your seeing it right?
The one in the center, the larger one, is elliptical. At least from where I'm sitting it is! :)
Probably has to do with the drawing as opposed to the real thing but it sure looks elliptical to me.
Gene, I think the design is good. I like the island. I'd also like to see the final results if you do do it.
Doug
Edited 11/13/2007 6:21 am ET by DougU
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The center one doesn't look elliptical to me. Looks like a part of a circle."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
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Nothing wrong with that!
Don't forget to provide a place for an outlet. I know you don't have codes there but it's still a good idea.
Maybe a brass foot rail?
Agree with Piffin on the ellipse. Pilasters don't need to stick out so far. They look square in section, make them rectangular (golden rectangle of course!).
Gene are those panels the ones I made @ SHWW? There were no corbels or pilasters in the plans you gave me.... :)
No, Mr. SHWW, this is the next one. Dwgs to follow soon. Everything worked out fine on #5.
Gene, Are all your latest projects beaded fir? I think we have quite a stash of that paneling...
On your cabinets. Who's going to put the beads on them? Are you going to? I ask because doug fir can be a pain to work with when it comes to small details like these.
You'll get a little runout of grain and it will just lift off. I can see one of the beads just lifting off the stile. Keep a botle of glue handy. One other thing. Make sure you seal it well on all six sides or you will get seasonal movement. Doug Fir is not considered a cabinet type of wood. But it can be done.
Don't get me wrong. Doug Fir is one of my favorite woods. Did you know that the largest tree ever recorded was a doug fir? Most people think it is a redwood.
One more thing. Your doug fir will darken considerably with time. If you use a filler to match the color it won't match in a few years. Maybe a filler that you could replace would be a good choice.
Gene -
I did this island a couple of years ago and (based on my experience) would only make a couple of suggestions:
Very nice, and somewhat similar to the one we just did in our kitchen. Ours is 'high-low' with 42" eat-at area, 36" prep area with sink. The advantage is that the 42" hides the mess from the 'public' side and allows backsplash for plugmold or individual outlets.
On a few points:
- downdraft cooktop is for light cooking - it's not a great setup for a serious cook
- if you put drawers below the cooktop, leave room for the regulator and shutoff valve (like 4")
- granite overhang is fine
- ease corners (1" radius)
- that's close to 500 lbs of granite, considering the cutout
Jeff
Edited 11/13/2007 4:56 pm ET by Jeff_Clarke
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