We stupidly installed the stone countertops and siliconed on the undermount sinks, before installing the sinkfronts on the cab fronts.
Now we’ve no way to get tool access on the rearsides for fastening them.
What would you do?
Nail them on and fill the holes? This is all prefinished stuff.
How about doublesided mounting tape? Not the light duty stuff you get in the hardware store for mounting pictures to the walls, but the rugged stuff they use to handle bodyside moldings on your pickup truck.
I have dowel center markers, you know, those steel plugs you stick into holes drilled for dowels, with a sharp center-marking point sticking up. Set them into place, shimmed with precision to get the margins off the doors below and adjacent drawerfronts, then tap to mark.
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Drill two holes in the FF and and 2 in the FF Face frame and false front, geeze I shoulda just typed that..and use the rare earth magnets...them suckers hold!
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This won't help you, but might be a heads-up for others:
The guy who installs granite (or other stone surfaces) for me, uses a heavy duty hangar system for undermount sinks which allows them to be removed/replaced after install without messing with the stone counter.
Monday, I'll call him and get more specifics.
In many of the old cabs they would take the false front and mount from the back, a block (2 blocks/one short for spacing, the second long enough to span over the opening) spaced so a "spinner" would wedge it tight when turned.
How the hell do you describe the above?
Call me if you have no idea what I'm talking about.
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I've used the 'spinner' trick before, offsetting the mounting point low on the back to accomodate an already installed sink. Also have used the spinner trick in conjunction with wedges to get a tight fit. Working on your back under the sink makes you grab at all sorts of straws to get the job done ASAP.
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul." Invictus, by Henley.
I get yer point. I too have made a toggle type thingy. If the opening is say 4" take a 1x1 about 5 and a half '' long witha 3/4'' rabet on each end just so ya can rotate it 90 degrees with a screw in the center.
If the sink is Too close to the back of the face frame tho'...he is hosed. Ya still have to get yer hand in to spin the toggle.
OH Crap! Brainstorm!!!
How about the flip front tray hinges MINUS the trays? They mount easily. All from the front.
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flip front tray hinges MINUS the trays?
Aw, go ahead and put the trays in. I want to remember that Amerock has a nice upscale tray that includes a post upon which to set rings that they don't wander down the drain. Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
As I just said to CAl. Flip front tray hinges with out the trays. That'll work.
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you cheap bastard, throw in the trays while you're at it.
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LMAO...iASSumed it was a tight fit in there..
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Actually, I've got the hinges and the trays, and I think this will be easier. I'll just keep the parts for another project.
Double stick tape and construction adhesive should do it.
If you want to be really slick, attach some blocks to the opening on the cabinet, with biscuit slots precut in them, and then cut matching biscuit slots of the backs of the falsies.
Stinger,
I've used 5/8"x12" lag screws to hold up deck ledgers. Four of them oughta hold up a itty bitty ole sink face.
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Is there anything in the room you could brace against if you glued it?
I'd try some PL for the part where you can not gain access an attach the bottom portion normaly, the PL should hold and chances are there isn't going to me much stress or strain pulling it up or away.
In the past, when the false front on the sink was fixed. I've used 1 1/2" brackets, and was always miffed when it came to door alignment.
So as of late, I've actually been using a cuppla clip on hinges, Blum, with the three axis of adjustment. Mind you if things is real tight, you might be able to get them to click in place, but not be able to get a screwdriver in to adjust them.
The flip tray suggested by others will be likely percieved as a bonus from the homeowner though.
Eric
Cut blocks the exact same size as the inside dimensions of the frame opening and screw it to the back of the false front. When you know it's lined up correctly, Screw it down, and take the block that's attached to the false front and panel adhesive/silicone it in place
Been there, done that...
If it a Euro/frameless job, they make these special fasteners for stuff like this. Pain to align them though.
http://www.rockler.com/findit.cfm?page=5727
PJ
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You stole my thunder.
False Front Clip
For use on false door fronts or panels, when mounting on 3/4'' face frames. Minimum opening 4-1/2'' high.
Screws included.
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PL glue in spots and hot melt glue inbetween those spots to hold it untill it dries.
false front clip would be the way to go ...
or dowels ...
me? I'd just silicone the back(or PL) and shoot it on with 23's.
Jeff
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Had this prob before.....
If you have the room, use hex drive screws w/ an angled allen wrench from the back.
Also, put four clear rubber bumper pads on the corners (of the backside) of the fake fronts, this heps them to stay put w/out too much torque on the anchoring screws.
Velcro? :)
jt8
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