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looking for a reverse roman ogee router

jhazel3 | Posted in Tools for Home Building on April 2, 2004 06:23am

Hi,

I am looking for REVERSE roman ogee router bit i saw one in a trim book of tauton and I cant seem to find one anywhere and people think I am crazy when i ask  for one. I know somebody here will know where I can fine one

Thanks for the help

Jim III

 

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  1. RalphWicklund | Apr 02, 2004 06:37am | #1

    Could that be a cove bit you are looking for? Or maybe even a regular ogee bit?

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    BillHartmann | Apr 02, 2004 06:53am | #2

    Porter Cable has one. And Jesada has an "inverted" ogee bit, which I think is the same thing.

  3. Sancho | Apr 02, 2004 04:54pm | #3

    check out woodline.

     

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    Sphere | Apr 02, 2004 07:16pm | #4

    routerbits.com

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  5. Piffin | Apr 02, 2004 11:50pm | #5

    What is a Roman Ogee as opposed to an Ogee?

    I'm just a curiopticus

     

     

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    1. reinvent | Apr 02, 2004 11:56pm | #6

      At a roman ogee you show up wearing a toga. At a plain ogee you can wear a t shirt and jeans or whatever makes you feel sexy. ;-)

      1. Piffin | Apr 03, 2004 12:25am | #8

        Oh, Gee!

        ;-) 

         

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        1. Sancho | Apr 03, 2004 05:04am | #12

          I think the Roman Ogee is used in Italian archtechture while the reg Ogee is used in standard cconstruction 

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    2. UncleDunc | Apr 03, 2004 12:18am | #7

      According to my extensive research (five minutes on Google just now) they are both S curves. In the context or router bits it appears the in the plain ogee, the ends of the curve are vertical and the middle is more or less horizontal. In the Roman ogee, the ends are horizontal and the middle is more or less vertical.

      To Jim-mi: Google for "roman ogee" shows lots and lots of router bits. Google for "reverse roman ogee" shows a Porter-Cable bit that's the same shape as all the "roman ogee" bits. I suspect what's happening is Roman ogee is another name for reverse ogee, so reverse Roman ogee really means reverse (also known as Roman) ogee.

      Edited 4/2/2004 5:23 pm ET by Uncle Dunc

      1. Piffin | Apr 03, 2004 12:43am | #9

        OK, Now you got me going, so I spent all of six or seven minutes, LOL

        I didn't find anything to definitively say so, but from what I found to compare, a Roman ogee seems to have the extreme tangents of the opposing arcs to be close to 90° to one another, while the normal ogees seem to be more relaxed or stretched out so the opposing tangents would be around 120° to one another. 

         

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        1. UncleDunc | Apr 03, 2004 01:09am | #11

          WRT router bits, I think you're right. I did see a few plain ogees with the 90 degree arcs, and one Roman with 120 degree arcs, so I don't think that's part of the definition of the names. (And who would ever claim to be the authoritative definer of the names, anyway?) But as far as what router bits are available, it does appear to sort out that way.

      2. Piffin | Apr 03, 2004 12:46am | #10

        I guess that another way of saying that is that each arc in a roman ogee would represent about a 90° section of a full circle while a regular ogee seems to use 120° sections 

         

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  6. 4Lorn2 | Apr 03, 2004 05:20am | #13

    Too quick a read had me seeing this as: Looking for a reverse Roman orgy. Got me thinking. I have some ideas what goes on at a Roman orgy, I will take the fifth as to how I gained this knowledge, but what would a reverse version entail. Hmmm.

    Boggles the mind while making me both vaguely excited and worried. Have you opened up a vast new horizons of deviancy? A new industry?

    As for the router bit? I haven't the foggiest.

    Edited to answer the core question.



    Edited 4/2/2004 10:21 pm ET by 4Lorn1

  7. tuffy | Apr 03, 2004 08:13am | #14

    You can't just reverse the head on the router bit?

    For the record, ogee and Roman ogee are the exact same thing--referring to a profile that would more properly be called a cyma recta.  The cymas are the profiles consisting of a double curvature, or "s"-shaped profile.  The exact shape and relative size of the concave and convex elements can vary.

    Cyma reversa is basically what you'd have if you installed a crown molding upside down--convex part at the top.

    1. jhazel3 | Apr 04, 2004 06:36pm | #15

      Ok what have I stirred up? This all started cause i saw a profile I liked in a Tauton press trim book and they called it a reverse roman ogee the difference that i could tell was the edge or fillet was on the oppsite side of the s curve.

      Thanks for all the help

      Jim III

      ps i ended up with and freud ogee with fillet and the counter tops look great

  8. HighSpizzle | Feb 25, 2013 10:37am | #16

    I am looking for the same thing

    I am also looking for a reverse bit, probably a reverse roman ogee. By "reverse" I mean the inverse. So it would leave a convex edge that should fit perfectly into a regular roman ogee edge. Anyone know where to find this? Would appreciate it. 

    Thank you, 

    [email protected]

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