In another thread I mentioned a broken floor tile that needs to be replaced, and severtal other that sound hollow. I am going to meet the tile setter there Wednesday, amd I want to mark each bad tile. I had thought of marking them with a hammer, but that’s a bit crude. What can I use that will be indelible? The room is too large to create a written grid, and I don’t want any chance that the tiler will miss the bad ones or be able to remove the marks. It is porcelain tile.
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Big X witha glass cutter and follow with a sharpie or wax crayon.
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Masking tape.
Smack each tile with a no bounce.
Just kidding. Sounds like your tile man should start over at no cost to you.
Chuck S
live, work, build, ...better with wood
the standard tile marking wax pencil ... aka ... china marker.
sold everywhere ... HD and Lowes too ... in the tile tool supply section.
red and or black commonly available.
Jeff
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Jeff I'm afraid that if I mark the tiles with a china marker and leave the tile setter to make the corrrections, he will change half of the bad tiles and erase the marks on the other half. I don't trust these guys any farther than I can throw a Toyota."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
guess I didn't read ... for some reason I thot U wanted removable.
Not really the case here, huh.
how about a regular old sharpie.
or ... as has been suggested ... the hammer.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Whats wrong with a sharpie? Would probably take as much work to remove as replace the tile. Simple, fast, readily available.View Image
easy to clean up sharpie with rubbing alcohol on tile
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Or laquer thinner.
I still say a no bounce with the tile setter present.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
That's what I was afraid of. Now I'm thinking about a cold chisel, taking a chunk out of the tile. I hesitate to collapse the hollow spot because it could be a couple of days before they get the tiles replaced, and I don't want it to be a trip hazard."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
scoring with glass cutter or grinder then the marker sounded best of all I've heard here.
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If you don't trust the tilesetter, why are you hiring him?
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I didn't hire him, the gc did. He did a bad job and now we're going back to fix it. I'm holding about $140,000 so I have a little leverage."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
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I'm holding about $140,000 so I have a little leverage.
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Makes you wonde r what he calls a big lever!
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Oh the power of money! I cringe every time I read a post here from a HO who's having trouble getting satisfaction fron a contractor, and they reveal that they have paid in full.
Met the gc and tile setter at the branch today. I don't care for the tiler, just seems a bit crude. Smooth talker. Anyway, he was all buddy-buddy about fixing the broken tile ... get right on it ... done in a few hours ... very little mess ... want you to be happy ... etc. Then i got down on my hands and knees with a scredriver and started bouncing the butt of the handle off the entire floor. Marked 25 bad tiles.
Ohh boy did his attitude change. Starts talking about how he wikll guarantee his work ... come back any time if one every breaks ... why don't we just let all the tiles stay as is. Nope, says I. Then he gets real close, in my personal space, trying to intimidate. You should have heard him and the gc talking about how the slab has dips ... and the thinset is over an inch thick to make it level ... and there's certainly hollow spots under the slab and the noise carries up through the tile ... and no one has ever checked his tiles like that ... etc. So when he stopped to take a breath, i said "change every one" and walked away. "Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
"and there's certainly hollow spots under the slab and the noise carries up through the tile"That is complete BS!Was the GC responsible for the slab or was this a tenant finish GC?
TFB (Bill)
I say good for you and you handled the situation as you should have and the right things that needed to be done.
Hes probably like a lot of guys hurry up, get paid, get out, then try and find him later. Its a rare person nowadays who stands up and admits mistakes and makes them right.
Now, do you think he will fix them all ?View Image
Now, do you think he will fix them all ?
I suspect not, but for now I will give him a chance to make the repairs. Before I release the money, I will go back and tap on every tile again. Only takes about 30 minutes."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
25 tiles.. wow. Good job on dealing with it. I have 1 tile with a hollow under it and it makes me cringe every time I step on it.... 25 would make me lose my mind.
25 would make me lose my mind.
I had 7 on a job I just finished today. Of course, they were 2x2 hex, on a cheap, stretchy net glued on with water-soluble glue (duh!), so I'm not pranging myself too hard. But yup, I was head-down/bum-up like Fast Eddie, tapping every single stinkin' tile with the handle of my margin trowel before I grouted.
BTW, to anyone who suggested marking with a Sharpie: not a good idea if you want a permanent mark. Sharpie ink rubs right off any glazed tile with water. Half the time my mark is gone before I finish making my cut with the wet saw.
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I am impressed with how professionally you handled that without letting yourself get sucked into a shouting match."Then he gets real close, in my personal space, trying to intimidate."I remember a guy trying that once with me. I didn't yell or shout either.Crete guys did a very bad garage slab. Humped up 2" in center and out of square by a good 3-4". I told the owner I would not pay for it, but that if they wanted me to build on it I would take measures to get it done.crete crew stops by and asked me to explain what was wrong. after painting it all out, one of them comes marching up to me shouting and swinging his arm. To this day I don't know if he intended to just shake his finger up under my nose, slap me in the face, or lay a choke hold on my neck.But he was suddenly nursing a broken finger and getting quiet and polite. They left, I built, and the owner negotiated a half price deal on th eslab price. .
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One day soon when I have time to type, I will tell you about the tile setter who threatened to shoot me and all the "N's" on the site cuz he couldn't do a proper material take off. I even surprised myself with how calm I was."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
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Yes, they were the persons formerly known as negroes. There were about 4 of them on a 8 person furniture installation crew. The owner of the tile company went beserk cuz he was 16 tiles short on the install. Same 18" tile as this discussion.
What a dumba$$. I had done a floor plan, to scale, showing the area to receive tile. He printed it on some odd size paper, clearly not to scale, and counted the squares, then ordered tile based on that. I tried to set the autocad hatch scale to something close to 18" just to show the effect, but I didn't care if it was exact, thinking the tile guy would do a proper takeoff. He didn't. So he meets me in the parking lot Sunday morning as I'm watching the furniture guys, and just went nuts for about 15 minutes, screaming all kinds of stuff. He was screaming lod enough that people on the other side of the shopping center were stopping to watch. Part of the problem was that they had run short on tile and thus could not finish the grouting, and when the furniture guys showed up at 7:00 am Sunday on schedule, I wouldn't let the tilers in the building. Told them thay had the building from 5:00 Friday to 7:00 am Sunday, and now it was time for the furniture. Ohh he got mad. When he finally got to the point of threatening to get his gun and shoot all the N's, one of the furniture installers called the cops. There were 3-4 cop cars there inabout 5 minutes, lights flashing, guns drawn, the whole bit."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Man, what an jerk! Seems like half the times I work with other crews there's at least one of those, but that guy was pretty extreem. Probably needed the pay for a habit, if you know what I mean. That seems to be the case with a lot of these loose cannons.
Hey, wouldn't it be funny to mark a bunch of the tiles and tell him those need to be redone? hee heee < evil grin >--------------------------------------------------------
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Hey, wouldn't it be funny to mark a bunch of the tiles and tell him those need to be redone?
No. That would be stooping to his level. I try to keep my work style right by the book. Doesn't always happen, but i try. "Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Sharpie in the grout joint around the defective tile with blue tape on each tile to make it really visible at a glance.
A can of spray paint.
a backhoe.
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50 cal machine gun.
Actually flaming napalm would make a good marker too.
I've found that dropping a running grinder to be real effective.
or just set any metal tool on the closest vanity and walk away for a minute.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
cast iron skillet.
Estwing on a 6 ft step....
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"After the laws of Physics, everything else is opinion" -Neil deGrasse Tyson
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If Pasta and Antipasta meet is it the end of the Universe???