mitering apron on colonial casing help
The subtle things about trim carpentry are most often the things that stump me. In this case, I am simply trying to miter the ends of an apron for a colonial casing on a window. Could anyone tell me what they are doing and what the “standard” is for this application.
I am shooting for the look where the top corner of the apron is aligned directly under the outside edge of the side casing, then it tapers down at an angle as it gets to the bottom of the apron. Also it seems to return on itself. Does that make any sense?
If I’m way off, don’t even bother trying to disect what the Heck I’m talking about, just tell me what you would do.
Thanks
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Sounds like you're looking for a compound miter. If your saw can handle such, set it at a slight angle....5 degrees perhaps....along with a 45 degree bevel. Carefully cut the returns and install.
I don't typically go with a compounded miter. Just a simple miter for the returns. The profile of the moulding yields enough taper for my eye.
J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
Sounds like you're trying to do a compound mitred return. E.g. -45º bevel -15º mitre on the apron; cut the return -45º bevel but +15º mitre (I wish I could explain this better, you'll have to play with the combinations to make sense of this). To make it harder, I cut 35º bevels to leave a revealed return.
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
Are you trying to make a self return? Cut a 45° angle on each end of the apron.The length is the distance from the window trim outside edges. Then take a piece of casing and cut another 45° angle on each side of a shorter piece. Square a line across the top of the casing, cut the small return at 0° on your saw.You wind up with a small return,square on one end ,45° on the other.
You may need to add a wood fence temporarily to the existing fence.Sort of a zero clearance fence,keeps the returns from getting chewed up in the saw teeth.If I have a lot to do, then I cut a number of lefts and right returns and put in a small box.This way you can cut them at the same time.
Try and cut the squared piece exactly ,if it is too long the miter will project beyond the apron.Too small and you have a gap.If the return is a hair too small,glue it up with the miter perfectly, the gap will be at the wall,caulk or paint will fill this if it is a small gap.
mike
Thanks Guys,
I think I know what I need to do now.
Yep, just cut the return on a 45. One thing I try to remember is to let the blade stop before you lift it out of the cut (on the small return piece). You'll get fewer pieces chewed up or sent into orbit by the blade.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniques/Stool%2520%26%2520Apron/Stool-Apron-Casing-Apron-plumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniques/Stool-Apron-Miters.htm&h=465&w=720&sz=18&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=HwLj2Fex0dB5uM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dapron%2Btrim%2Breturn%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DGThat'll walk you through it
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