This is a poll, how do you measure/cut when using a mitre saw without a stop.. here are the possible options:
1. hold the tape to the board and mark the board
2. hold the tape to a square and mark the board
3. hold the tape to the board and line up the mark to the saw blade without marking the board.
on multiple cuts to the same length do you:
1. measure and mark each board with the tape
2. use the first board cut as a measure
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Mark the board. Lee Valleyt has a neat little gadget that hooks over the end of a miter cut, either insode or outside.
And measure each board individually. Using one as a guage to mark the others can add creep to the measurement.
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What FastEddie said.
Allen in Boulder Creek
Lee Valley has a neat little gadget that hooks over the end of a miter cut, either inside or outside.
What's the name of this gadget? It sounds like something I'd like to have. Or maybe you have a link?
-Don
I've seen the gadget -- here's something that works even better.
when you're measuring from the short of a miter, take your speed square and clamp it to the short with that jorgensen spring clamp hanging off your 'non hammer' ring.
(since I always have two clamps hanging there it is real easy.)
it is also very easy to "burn 10" with your tape spring clamped to the material -- there are times this has been useful. (don't forget to add the 10 you burned)
If I need 28" for instance I still say it out loud -- 28, ok 38. I just find it easier than "burning one"
works perfectly.
I line up the short of the mitre with the edge of my saw table and hook my tape on the edge of the saw table.
It's called a miter hook, part no. 05N37.01 $11.95. It has little pins that bite into the wood, and magnets that hold the tape. A little pricey for a small plastic gadget, but it works well.
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Edited 12/2/2005 7:45 pm ET by FastEddie
Edited 12/2/2005 7:47 pm ET by FastEddie
Thanks. I'll be getting one.
-Don
I ordered the miter hook gadget from Lee Valley and had a chance to use it today to install casing on 9 doors and 2 windows. Thanks again for the tip. It's a huge time saver and surprisingly accurate.
-Don
i bought one of those about 6 years ago thought it would save me a bunch of time but all it did was hurt my fingers .i would put it in my pouch and would go to grab it and ouch.but when it didn't hurt me it worked well
I measure and mark on the board, too. Clamping the tape to the short point and "burning ten" has been my method.
I don't cut a bunch after measuring only one with trim, to inaccurate. I do this for board where accuracy is not so important, though.
Depends what I'm cutting, I use all those methods, although I almost always use a stop for more than 8 or more repetitive cuts, it's just faster. My eyeing it with the tape has gotten mighty accurate over the years, but I'm not gonna do that when I'm building cabinetry-type stuff or crown. When you use the same board to mark successive cuts, creep is not a factor, that's why you use the same board. I always mark that board so it doesn't get mixed up. Check the first board cut after using the "marking" board and decide where to cut the line for best accuracy.
What is "burning 10", I've never heard that before??
Ahhh, "burn 10", I get it now. I do that for short-side cuts also.
Edited 12/2/2005 11:04 am ET by Demon
When measuring from the short point of a miter, I line up the short point with the end of the mitersaw's fence and then hook my tape on the fence to mark the board.
I pull a tape and mark the board and never use a piece of stock for repetitive cuts due to creep issues. For repetitive cuts over a half a dozen or so I set the stops anyway.
8 minutes late again.
Yup, that's the way the old guys do it...........
young guy.
I use the board support on the end of my saw station box, pleny of room and support for long stock.
Burning is ok for some, but too much chance for error when you're as dumb as this carpenter.A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.
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Quittin' Time
I hate to be a pain, but I would really appreciate a picture of this if possible, if not by you, someone else please?
On the ends of this box are support blocks to hold the work up with the saw base. I slide the short pt of the mitred pc to the edge of that block, hook the tape on the block and pull to the measurement.
Sorry for the snowfall.A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Thanks, nice workcenter set up. Nice cabinets also, you do those? Will they get a soffit?
Edited 12/3/2005 4:06 pm by RJT
Thanks for the complement. Install only. Homowners purchased those unfinished from the depot @ 135 ea. Stained 'em up and now I install. Capped with crown, they didn't want a soffit. An attempt at silk purse/sows ear.
Here's my helper holding the block to the reveal while I'm at the other end of the 13'pc making it pretty. Guy is incredible, never complains no matter the job. Gotta love that.A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.
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Quittin' Time
< Here's my helper holding the block to the reveal while I'm at the other end of the 13'pc making it pretty. Guy is incredible, never complains no matter the job. Gotta love that.>
Dependable, doesn't gossip, strong grip, what's not to like?The heck, you say?
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Quittin' Time
I don't have a picture handy and am not currently standing in front of my saw. :)
But let me see if I can explain it more clearly. Just put your piece of trim up against the fence of your saw like you were about to cut it. Have the short point of your miter facing the fence. Slide it down the fence until the short point is in line with the end of the fence. Now just pull your measurement with your tape hooked on the fence instead of the short point of the miter (which is lined up with the end of the fence).
Get it?
I get it now, thanks.
Just put your piece of trim up against the fence of your saw like you were about to cut it. Have the short point of your miter facing the fence.
KILLER IDEA!! why didn't IIII think of that!
Edited 1/21/2006 3:28 pm ET by zorrosdens
I just eyeball it perfect everytime, the rest I leave for the painters lol
i rarely use a tape at all except for rough cuts, i usually hold the piece in place and mark it
when using a tape to measure, i very rarely mark the piece, i just use the tape to line up to the blade
for multiple cuts of the same length, i use the adjustable stop on the saw
That is a very fool proof system....I wish all bosses didn't mind an extra trip though. It makes for very fine and easy jobs that always look right on.