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More Dormers wrapped

Sphere | Posted in Photo Gallery on October 21, 2007 09:42am

Dale and I wrapped up the last of 6 dormers Fri.  I took a few differnt type pics, the HO wanted to see some of the mechanics involved.

Enjoy.

Oh, I am re-hanging the 100 YR old casement windows in here, that were removed when they fell apart, and DH ‘s were installed.

Currently I have patched the sash balance holes they had made ( spring reels) and preparing to mortice for new hinges, and rout a groove for REAL weather stripping. Rain days I am rebuilding the damaged circle head sash. I have also patched in missing crown moulding as needed, and primed.

 

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OK…this is soldering a valley at the top.

 

 

 

 

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    Sphere | Oct 21, 2007 09:45pm | #1

    Here is Dale crimping the "gutter" as we call the "J" channel, ( my last post was getting hard to embed, something with a curser malfunction)

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      Sphere | Oct 21, 2007 09:50pm | #2

      Same problem, oh well, y'all get the idea. Some slate breaking is gonna happen, we just replace what are busted after all is done. These are the step flashing overwrapped with I&W OVER the old steps, that are under the old felt..it is NOT gonna leak..LOL.

      Before ya call OSHA about the ladder rung, it is just wrapped in copper, there is a stick inside the broken rung.(G)  After all, all the weight is on the roof ( thats what we tell ourselves at least) I am 175 and Dale about 225, and we both have been on the same chicken ladder enough to know what we can get by with.

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        Sphere | Oct 22, 2007 12:54am | #3

        I'm back..Ok, the tabs are scraps that Grant lops up on the big shear, they allow the lock seams to be held, but still loose enough for expansView Imageion and contraction.

        When nailing on "wish wood" ( we wish the wood was there, and not soft punk) it usually means flattened fingers and bent nails, so we try to replace the rotted or unsupported sheathing.

        I wish someone would coil copper nails for a gun some times...

         Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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          Sphere | Oct 22, 2007 01:03am | #4

          Here you can see where the pan dies into the gutter, they start being cut at 45 degrees bein as it is a 12/12 roof, then as you get up the curve, it gets scribed, by punching it down, and eyeballing an arc with a knife. Then snipped to shape, and a bit of a crimp to make the curve flow better.

          The gutter or J is also soldered at the top, the nail flange is sealed around the bend till it gets about past the point it could leak.

          The pan is slid in and the drip edge face is cut off if any extra is hanging in space..and then folded around the drip and crimped off.

          The final stripe at the top has two female locks and when it is flattened out we solder the back edge outside of the J as well, and the lap on the J.

          All that folding and soldering will out last the abrasion factor that happens on slate roofs ( we hope) just single layer of 16oz could feasably wear through in 70 yrs or so, but our method should add another 30 or so we hope.

           

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          1. Jim_Allen | Oct 22, 2007 01:10am | #5

            Nice thread Sphere. Your work reminds me of how easy rough framing is.

            If I did those wraps, they'd leak like a sieve in tomorrow's dew.fka (formerly known as) blue

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            Sphere | Oct 22, 2007 01:29am | #6

            Well,I'd like to frame as swift as you..LOL

            We got it dialed in pretty well, have done about 60 now(?), they are fun, and I think we have done about 4 different methods of wrapping, I like the diamond scales from 2 yrs ago best.

            Our adaptation of a J channell makes for a much cleaner roof join, we like it a lot..plus its a hell of a lot faster, and acts like a rain gutter..so far so good, no call backs.

            Thanks for looking.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            "If you want something you've never had, do something you've never done"

          3. DougU | Oct 22, 2007 04:23am | #7

            Duane

            The pictures and work look good!

            If I had to be up on a roof I'd like to be doing what your doing.

            You mentioned in a previous post that you break some slate, how often does that happen?

            I bought a house that has some of that wonderful asbestos stuff (roofing) from the 30's or 40's, I'm planning to add some dormers but I'm concerned about breakage. I know its not the same as slate but I figure its close enough to it to know if breakage is imminent and how to best avoid it.

            Doug

             

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            Sphere | Oct 22, 2007 05:03am | #8

            These were pretty glommed up with  tar, that is the issue we faced.

            To get new steps in we had to lift the slate a bit and slide the steps from below, thru the tar.  Bein as I was stripping some paint the painters missed, I had a heat gun up there...well, I tried that on the tar and it was slick.

            So, the first dormer, maybe 3 slate, I recall a cut one with a curve, we broke three times..LOL There after fewer and fewer. Our slate jacks are sprading the weight of the work boards over a few slate, not just one or two, that helps too.

            Asbestos is not quite as fragile being as it has no natural grain like these slate, and if yer not fighting tar, maybe you'll be lucky.

            We also can cut with diamond wheels the slate that are too close or too tarred, I'd NOT suggest you do that.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            "If you want something you've never had, do something you've never done"

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