Me and the pup took a ride today and I came across this house under construction. The picture didn’t come out as good as I wanted. If you guys are interested in learning the secrets of this exotic scaffolding, let me know and I can go back. If not enjoy the laugh.
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DOH!View Image forgot the attachment.
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What's exotic about it? I'm sure it's stitched together with the standard two or three piffin screws in each leg!
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Maybe I'm just fussy about breaking my neck LOLWho Dares Wins.
Slip up there and take a picture at night; it might be Leprechauns working on that crib.
There was someone parked in the driveway, so I didn't want to get to go walking around taking pictures. Who Dares Wins.
Just mention that you work for the state comp board
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Good idea. LOLWho Dares Wins.
you should have stopped and asked if his comp was all paid up
I don't think builders that allow that kind of stuff carry comp.Who Dares Wins.
valid point..
then get out with a chain saw, start cutting it down...
when he starts screaming tell him you are part of a speacial govt agency commisioned with the task of protecting idiots from themselves...
There was someone parked in the driveway, so I didn't want to get to go walking around taking pictures.
Dont they know that your an ordained minister! Flash your certificate for gods sake.
I was scared there might be bodies to bury, and give last rights to. It could have got icky.
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Edited 11/7/2004 9:38 pm ET by Gunner
Been to that little part of the third world, down below the Rio Grande? Looks like what you see all over, down there.
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That gives me an idea for a catapult to load the shingles in the next thread over.
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He should have tried this:
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Anyone ever seen the bamboo scaffolding commonly used in the Far East? I worked on a project in Taiwan about ten years ago and saw it everywhere. They lash the bamboo together with ropes. I saw it five or more stories tall, swaying back and forth in the breeze.
The workers often were barefooted or wear flip-flop sandals. Sometimes, I saw them wearing a curious work shoe that looked kind of like a slipper - it had a soft rubber sole and a separate big toe, to make it easier to hook their feet around the scaffold as they climbed up and down.
When they were done with it, instead of dismantling it they sometimes just set it on fire.
I'll try to dig up the pictures we have of this. In Hong Kong, the bamboo scaffolding is everywhere. Every enormous high rise? Even 20-30 stories? Bamboo. When it rains (and it rains quite a bit there), that is some slippery bamboo.
Crazy.
Mainland China we didn't see this as much, oddly enough, but we stayed in the rural areas and the small cities we went to didn't have very tall buildings or much new construction.
Couldn 't find our pictures though I found our short film we took. But that is hard to post.
Here are other pictures I found through the 'net feom OHS Journal, China.
http://www.hhs.csus.edu/HomePages/KHS/NaveM/OHSJournal/China/China_page2.htm
I doctored two photos so they would be a bit clearer.
bad part about the house scafford is, alot of people really do it that way.
I've seen photos of some similar to the ones just posted. Bamboo is actually a better material than spruce for built-on-site scaffolding--it is less subject to catastrophic failure. When a piece of bamboo breaks, it splits longitudinally in several places but the two halves do not easily separate due to the incredibly high strength of the individual fibres. I have seen a piece of bamboo split so badly it basically resembled an unlaid rope--not a single section around the circumference bigger than an eighth of an inch across--but I still could not break or tear it into two pieces no matter how hard I tried. (This was a 1" diameter bamboo pole used to mark hazards on the ski hill.) So I whipped out my super-sharp, Japanese-tooth-pattern, Lee Valley folding buck saw...and still couldn't cut it in half: the fibres just caught between the teeth and moved back and forth along with the blade, effectively preventing any cutting from happening. I finally folded it in half and took it down that way.
As far as the lashings go: you can bet the guys that build those things use very specific lashings for each type of joint, each lashing having proved itself over hundreds (maybe thousands) of years of track record. And remember, Thor Heyerdahl managed to sail the Pacific more than once in vessels lashed together without a single nail in 'em anywhere. Lashings don't perforate the stock they hold together; this helps preserve 100% of the structural strength of each member at the joint, unlike nailing or bolting.
When things collapse in the Far East, it is usually the buildings themselves, not the scaffoldings....
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I was in HK last June and I saw bamboo scaffolding everywhere. They sometimes cantilevered out high up on a building so they could do some work in a small area.
They used to use split bamboo as lashing and nowadays it's all plastic.
When things collapse in the Far East, it is usually the buildings themselves, not the scaffoldings....
That I don't know, may be they can just inhabit scaffoldings instead of buildings. :)
In HK, standards are pretty high compared to the rest of the orient (except Japan, of course). The old British influence. But there was that story a few years back about the 7-storey hotel that collapsed in Thailand IIRC; seems the building started out as a two-storey home and they'd just added another storey onto it everytime they got enough money to buy some more 2x....
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There was a bamboo scaffold that collapsed in, I think, HK (or maybe Singapore) about a year ago, killing a bunch of people.
I understand bamboo actually has a lot going for it, but it still looks kinda shaky the first time you see it. Scaffolding aside, some of the safety practices (or lack thereof) I saw over there would give an OSHA inspector a heart attack...even so, on a project that lasted more than a year only one guy got hurt (he fell off a 6' ladder onto a pile of concrete rubble, but he was back on the job after a couple days.)
I don't think I want to get into another argument about OSHA and where it does and doesn't apply, LOL....Dinosaur
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I have heard of bamboo scaf on sky rise construction in Hong Kong surviving typhoons.
The big problem in HK during typhoons is the danger from mudslides down the Mountain. Hong Kong is actually one of the only places along that whole coast that is relatively well-protected from high wind. Its harbour was coveted for that very quality by the Europeans when they first 'discovered' it.
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> I have heard of bamboo scaf on sky rise construction in Hong Kong surviving typhoons.
That makes sense. The bamboo has very little surface area and a round cross section, so it should offer very little resistance to the wind.
-- J.S.
I heard the Hong Kong folks are going to start importing straw bales instead!
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It is my belief that every respondent thusfar has misinterpreted this photograph. It is clearly the beginning of a poorly built privacy fence in a zero lot line community.
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ROAR! Best one yet.Who Dares Wins.
That was standard fare when I was framing full time 20 years ago. We'd rig up anything and everything to do the cornice. I still see it around town.
You won't get me out on a 2x6 two stories up ever again. I can't believe I'm still alive.
Ed.
I've seen string bikinis with more support than that!
Could you post pics of some
Oh brother.... you gotta go back and get a better picture of that! Now THAT looks like a good time.
I cruised by this morning and got some better ones. Number 3 was taken at a house down the street. It's across the garage entrance. I don't think it would hold a cat let alone a worker. They have to use a prop pole on it.Who Dares Wins.
Now there's somebody who knows how to have fun. They just forgot to put the pool underneath. You sure #3 isn't a limbo bar?PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
View Imageand people thought this looked stupid...you can click it to enlarge.
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Now you have something for them to compare to. LOLWho Dares Wins.
Hey, that thing looks familiar.The only thing missing is the attached trash chute for quick get-aways when OSHA arrives.I DIDN'T DO IT...THE BUCK DOES NOT STOP HERE.
What's the big deal?
Antiquated scaffolding, Antiquated method of using felt instead of house wrap.
They are just old fashioned.
Probably don't allow speed squares either.Who Dares Wins.
don't think it would hold a cat let alone a worker
So, maybe you have to turn them into the SPCA, not osha . . . <g>Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
And I thought the 'scaffold in the truck'pic was good. Just remember,somebody actually "thought this out". How'd you like to work with this guy? Seen safer stuff on Saturday morning cartoons.I DIDN'T DO IT...THE BUCK DOES NOT STOP HERE.
Remember the pic of that straw bale scafflod that was posted here some time back? I think we should have an in-depth discussion of which staging style has the most merits...
"Remember the pic of that straw bale scafflod that was posted here some time back?"
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Need a couple more bales to get all that fishscale done.
jt8
He's growing it right now..it's almost ready for harvest.
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Additionally, don't take any political advice from me. I'm just a parrot for the Republican talking points. I get all my news from Rush Limbaugh and Fox and Friends (they are funny...try them out)!
I hadn't seen that one before.... that's just fantastic.