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I’m planning on working on a new addition come this spring. This gives me the ability to justify buying two things I’ve wanted for a long time – a Sliding Compound Miter Saw and a portable Table saw.
For the SUMS, I’m trying to decide between the Hibachi 10″ and the Dealt 12″. I’ve heard a lot of good about both. I admit I like the higher fence on the Dealt, but I’m a little concerned about Dewalts reliability. I’ve heard nothing but raves about Hibachi.
For the Table saw I’m trying to decide between the Dealt 744 and the equivalent Bosh.
Anyone have any preferences, and why? I’m sure it will be useful to a lot of people besides myself. Obviously I’m willing to spend for quality.
Charles
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Wow Charles, rewrite this without the spellcheck here. I'm not sure what you're interested in. If I get it, I like the Hitachi (have the 8 1/2, have used the 10) and the Bosch 4000. Haven't used the delta or dewalt. Read down this page a little, there's been some questions and opinions lately. Best of luck on that addition and whatever you buy.
*I have a 12" Hibachi, it does steaks real well, but it ain't much for the big BBQ's, not large enough. I've never really used it to cut trim with though, seems like the wrong tool for the job. Bosh seems like a good guy to, I mean Bush.Pesonally I have a Makita (old 8-1/4") with a rousseau table stand, and outfeed. I won't trade it for anything. Stand and table make the saw. My delta is a unisaw, it stays in the shop. Not exactly a "portable unit". Good luck.
*I think Keith is right on when he says: stand and table make the saw. Take the "BEST" this or that, flop it into the truck, plop it on the ground at the site and sure as shootin you'll quickly come to feel that you could've done better. But take an average benchtop saw, build it into a clever portable table that provides 8' of outfeed support, has a built in GFI, also acts as chopsaw station and router table, then you're talking. Then get a bottle of CMT's blade and bit cleaner and a can of Dricote and you're ripping 4x8 sheets by yourself humming all the while realizing that with a good site saw, well set up, you might not need a shop saw.I've been using a DeWalt 744 at one end of an 8'x1.5' work table for three years. The saw sits on a small, second table that flushes the saw's metal table with the work table. Beginning 16" from the far end there's a recess in which sits a 8 1/2" Hitachi C8FB. I can rip about 5' without having to move the miter saw. If I have to rip longer it slides out easily and there's a blankout for the recess. The bottom of the recess has a circular cutout in it that allows a router to be set into the table. For fence and router mount, I took a cheapo Vermont American router table and cut short the legs so that its top also flushes with the work surface. The work table also has a switched receptacle on it so I can turn the router on and off without having to crawl under the table. The table is a simple ladder frame of 2x4's w/ 1/2" AC plywood top and bottom. The recess for the miter saw creates a weakness so I built a tensioned wire and bridge under-truss to resist sagging, as the table is supported by folding banquet table legs mounted at either end. I find that by adjusting the position of the table saw left and right I can always get good outfeed support from the work table and so don't need side support. My shop vac fits under the table when being used as dust collector. Anyway, I can heartily reccommend the 744. The fence is great, It stays dead true and the gauge on the saw and my tape are invariably in agreement. I have had 0 problems in 3 years of what I'd consider to be moderate commercial use. Same for the Hitachi, 0 problems and it's always dead on. But more than the specific tools, the overall setup has been a joy to use. It allows me to produce consistent results every time, all the while using shop techniques on-site without elaborate preparations. I just ordered 2 36" grip back to back clamps that should make the bench almost complete.
*Thanks for the assist. I actually thought I'd told the spell checker not to do anything. Sigh. I'm glad to provide an opportunity for some easy humor though.I've read the stuff going down the page - unfortuneately it doesn't seem clear one way or the other.The table setup you describe sounds great, but not portable enough for me. I take your point about the setup being important though.Thanks,Charles
*That was Dewalt 12" SCMS and Hitachi 10" SCMS, btw. Table saws was DeWalt 744 and Bosch equivalent.
*In my experience, the only reason you'd need a 10 or 12" sliding saw is if you're going to be running crown moulding ...alot. Otherwise, why not consider the 8 1/2" saw- lighter, more portable, less expensive.Check the capacity specs. for the 8.5" saw, you might be surprised.
*I've used the 8 and 1/2 Hitachi, and think its an excellent saw. However, I'd like the ability to double bevel, and portability is not an issue. I thus want to keep the ability to do big crowns easily, as I do intent a number of them. And the cost difference, while there, is not huge compared to the increase in usability.Thanks,Charles
*Charles,We bought several of the 744's when they came out just to have to pack around to small jobs. They do OK, but just OK. The fence is a bit cantankerous and gets out of square easily. If you can afford it, and portability is not an issue, I'd step on up to a Jet or Powermatic 10" table saw. Not the new Delta. Well, for a home shop the new Delta 10" might just be what you need. I haven't seen a so called "portable" table saw that I was really impressed with, but I haven't tried the Bosch. The generally make top notch tools.Good luck,Ed. Williams
*Charles, I have the DeWalt slide saw. I love it. I would recommend it to any one. I also know several people who would say the same thing about the Hitachi. If possible set them up side by side and see which one you like the best. As for the table saw consider the Ryobi 3000 table saw. Price is about $459.00, it has a sliding table, great fence, plenty of power, decent factory blade, is belt driven, and it is one of the quietest saws you will ever run a board through. Hope this helps. Happy Holidays, Tim
*We have been using a Rigid 10" portable table saw on the job the accessory stand that you can get for it. It works great! It has power and the fence and adjustments are easy to use and accurate. It wheels around and is light. The fence, mitre gauge, blade guard, and spare blades all store on the saw when you are done and the stand folds up to save storage space. Bill
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I'm planning on working on a new addition come this spring. This gives me the ability to justify buying two things I've wanted for a long time - a Sliding Compound Miter Saw and a portable Table saw.
For the SUMS, I'm trying to decide between the Hibachi 10" and the Dealt 12". I've heard a lot of good about both. I admit I like the higher fence on the Dealt, but I'm a little concerned about Dewalts reliability. I've heard nothing but raves about Hibachi.
For the Table saw I'm trying to decide between the Dealt 744 and the equivalent Bosh.
Anyone have any preferences, and why? I'm sure it will be useful to a lot of people besides myself. Obviously I'm willing to spend for quality.
Charles