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   Guest_ | Jan 16, 2000 12:32am | #1

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   where do you live and what have you done?

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   Guest_ | Jan 16, 2000 10:42am | #2

   *One of the fastest ways to get exposed to the trades is to work for a builder as a laborer, and if carpentry appeals to you, then it's an easy next step into an appenticeship. Something I did 22 years ago, and I know still works, is to find a construction site, find the job superintendent, stick out your hand, introduce yourself, and say " I would like a job as a laborer(or carpenter apprentice) and I'll work hard for you." I know you will get a job, even if that contractor doesn't have an opening, he will know someone who will. Look clean and have a gung-ho attitude. Be positive. There is always room for ambition and determination in todays economy. Good luck, Bill Swales

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   Guest_ | Jan 16, 2000 10:43am | #3

   *Joel, have you thought of attending a construction school to get some experience?Ditto to Calvin's questions.

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   Joel_Tarango | Jan 16, 2000 08:46pm | #4

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   I live outside of DeRidder Louisiana. Like I said, I've helped family and friends do some home improvements. Being the gofer on the task. And doing what had to be done. Framing and just being a helping hand. I'm a Jack of the trade and not a master.

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   Joel_Tarango | Jan 16, 2000 08:47pm | #5

   *Thank you for your advice William.

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   Joel_Tarango | Jan 16, 2000 08:50pm | #6

   *Yes I've thought about construction school. This would involve quiting my present job and probable commuting long distances. Right now I'm the sol bread earner in the family.

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   Guest_ | Jan 16, 2000 09:05pm | #7

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   Joel,

   Mr. Swales puts out the best suggestion. Know it's what you want to do (if only for the present) and have a great attitude. I would suggest if it's the building aspect the interest you, and you are good with yuor hands, promote yourself as a apprentice carpenter. You end up being a laborer anyways, however at least with the understanding your primary interest is to learn to build.

   It's not like you see on T.V. It's a tough occupation not suited for all, probably more difficult mentally at times than physically. Not trying to scare you off. But, for me the payoff is well worth it. I love standing back and saying "I made that."

   Just one man's opinion.

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   Guest_ | Jan 17, 2000 03:04am | #8

   *Joel, as has been pointed out, William Swales gave you some excellent advice. He reminds me how often I've heard workers described in terms of their "attitude" rather than their skills or knowledge. Now, what depicts a good "attitude"? Some tips: Showing up on time A willingness to learn A willingness to accept menial tasks Working a full day after showing up on time Understanding the contradictory balance between production and quality Not endangering yourself or others Grabbing a broom or straightening up the lumber pile during lull periods after showing up on time during the course of working a full day(Try checking out a few books from the library to learn more about what the crew is currently working on... this can accelerate your learning curve, and you'll get a quicker grasp of the jargon used on the job site)Sincere best wishes, Steve

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   Guest_ | Jan 17, 2000 07:59am | #9

   *Joel,There are a lot of good things here to consider. I'd put you on my crew, but for only about $10.00 an hour. I don't know what you're earning now, but I hope it's more than that. Believe it or not, $10.00 an hour is good money to start where I come from.I find it hard to believe that you want to get down in the hole that we're in. Most of us ended up here by chance......not by choice. However, I love what I do for a living, but it took many, many years of very, very hard work at low pay to get to where I am today.I admire your desire.....If you want something bad enough.....Good luck,Ed. Williams

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   Joel_Tarango | Jan 17, 2000 09:05pm | #10

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   You summed up my whole desire in your last sentence. "I made that." Self satisfaction and accomplishment. Thank you Mark.

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   Joel_Tarango | Jan 17, 2000 09:08pm | #11

   *Thank you Steve. I will add your suggestions to those of Mr. Swales. They're very helpful.

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   Joel_Tarango | Jan 18, 2000 09:01am | #12

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   I could some help getting into construction. I'm in my late thirties and can't find anyone who will give me a break. Most builders in my area are looking for experience. And I haven't any. I've always helped family and friends on their projects. I know I would like to go into this line of work because I always enjoy the finished product. Can anyone help me. Joel

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   Guest_ | Jan 18, 2000 09:01am | #13

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   You will be in for a sore body the rest of your life.. I am 60 & I have been sore most of my life!!!! However, I like what I am doing because I see the end results & that gives me the most satisfaction. I am at a station in life where I can charge fully what a job is worth.. I don't have any men working for me. I have associates that help one another when the work requires extra help.[I am mainly a cabinet maker & finish carpenter] The other associates are another cabinet maker [72 yrs old], A 24 yr old home builder, A 40 yr old rental property owner [specializes in ceramic tile], a counter top saw shop owner and a 40 yr old general carpenter.. That is another way of getting into thr business... Just associate yourself with others and pass on to the others work you wish to share... One can build up a trust and every one prospers..[we pay each other very well] L. Siders