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Need help with framing cost

| Posted in General Discussion on January 14, 1999 08:42am

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I am a general contractor in the Pittsburgh, PA area for the past 22 years. The majority of my work is old work renovations, additions, and remodeling. I have an opportunity to frame a rather elaborate 3500 sq. ft. two story house with a three car attached garage. The framing work would involve many intricate hip roof angles, dormers,and the construction of a turret. I feel that I am up for the challange, and have done previous work for these clients. I’m no stranger to the homebuilding industry, since my grandfather, father, and uncle were all homebuilders by profession. Being rusty and ignorant to new home pricing, can anyone advise me what the average rate (price per sq. ft.) for labor should amount to?

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  1. Don_ | Jan 12, 1999 05:20am | #1

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    James,

    As a residential contractor and sometimes framer I can understand your Quandry. A house of this nature I feel cannot be priced or estimated on a sqft basis.
    I would approach the estimate by figuring exactly how long it would take my crew to do the job, my overhead, and profit margin. I would take extra care in estimating the complex features and figure my time generously. When you have figured all of this add at least 10% for a cushion.
    You can lose your rear on this type of job if you arent very careful. You are better off to bid high and not get it than bid low and get it. Good luck!

    1. Hambone_ | Jan 12, 1999 07:57am | #2

      *Since you have a good relationship with the potential client why not look into a "time and materials" arrangement? Figure what you would be able to pay yourself if you had bid the job and had it go well and then break that down into an hourly rate for yourself. Add your crew wages (and all of the tax burden)and give the client a weekly or bi-weekly labor cost. Let them hustle the materials or do it yourself, on the clock of course.

  2. Guest_ | Jan 12, 1999 08:10pm | #3

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    I would recommend talking to some folks in your area. Prices can vary so much in different parts of the country. If you are a member of you Home Builders Association Id start there....Good Luck and have fun.

    Dave

    1. Guest_ | Jan 13, 1999 08:28am | #4

      *James,I have similar background and experience, though not quite as many years worth. I am in central PA so my perspective may be of value to you. A few months ago I was approached with similar job but maybe twice the size. Knowing the clients, and based on the complexity of the job I came in at between six and seven dollars a square foot. Framing for tract town homes around here goes from $1.50/s.f. and up. Tract single family homes average $2.50 and when you get into customs it is anyones guess. Liking my work, but when it comes down to it I do it for the money, so better high than low,Tom

  3. Espanto | Jan 14, 1999 08:42am | #5

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    Tommy B.
    Just out of curiosity, what exactly is included in your framing per square foot pricing? I'm a G.C. trainee and I'd appreciate the benefit of your experience. Any/all details would be appreciated!

    Thanks!

  4. James_Popeck | Jan 14, 1999 08:42am | #6

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    I am a general contractor in the Pittsburgh, PA area for the past 22 years. The majority of my work is old work renovations, additions, and remodeling. I have an opportunity to frame a rather elaborate 3500 sq. ft. two story house with a three car attached garage. The framing work would involve many intricate hip roof angles, dormers,and the construction of a turret. I feel that I am up for the challange, and have done previous work for these clients. I'm no stranger to the homebuilding industry, since my grandfather, father, and uncle were all homebuilders by profession. Being rusty and ignorant to new home pricing, can anyone advise me what the average rate (price per sq. ft.) for labor should amount to?

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