Does anyone know where I can purchase aluminum drywall nails? I have had a lot of problems with standard nails rusting, especially near showers and tubs. We are in the south, where humidity can get high, but I’m not sure that is the real problem, since it occurs in the winter, as well.
Fans help, I’m sure, but they don’t completely cure the problem. The nails rust under the paint, then there is a bubble that needs repair. Aluminum nails, similar to the type used for roofing would be a great idea, I would think.
Oh, the same problem occurs with the metal outside corner strips. They make a plastic corner, but I haven’t tried those yet. Any experience with these??
Thanks.
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I m ight be showing my ignorance here, but if you have rusting nails and corner bead, I think you have a bigger problem than you think. The paint should have sealed them off from moisture enough so they don't rust. If the nails and the corner bead that are rusting are close to each other, I would suspect that you might have excess moisture inside the wall. If it's all the nails and all the corners in the room, then I don't know.
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Eddie has a point to consider, but we use galvanized SR screws up here to prevent the bleed through staining.
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They are not close to each other. In fact, I have had some corner beads rust in other parts of the house.
In some cases, the water from the putty causes the nail to start rusting. It starts out as a little stain that starts bleeding through, then after a period of time, will start swelling. Not all nails do this, but about 50% of nails directly over a shower, for example.
These are interior walls, with nothing inside (in some cases), and they still have the problem. So, I don't think there is a moisture problem from inside.
Surely, I can't be the only one that has had this problem. A simple solution would be to use an aluminum nail. I just can't find a supplier.
Use roofing nails.
A simple solutuion is to use galvanized...
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Bathrooms and basements and any other types of high humidity areas receive galvy screws and green rock. I only use nails for cornerbead when drywalling.....in these situations I use galvy roofing nails.
Aren`t your corner beads themselves galvanized?
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Corner beads are galvanized, but sanding the filler tends to scratch the finish off the edge.
Would roofing nails hold tight enough? Do you use galvanize deck screws??
They make galvanized sheet rock screws all day long.
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Roofers will certainly hold tight enough.....according to Piffin, drywall nails are available galvanized, but I`ve never seen them in these parts.
And yes.....they call them galvanized decking screws, but I wouldn`t use them for much more than drywall.
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In high moisture areas I use the plastic perforated corner bead. It was devleoped for moisture areas. You have to glue it on with a spray adhesive & follow the instructions carefully. It's not as hard as it sounds and you have about a minute or a little less to manipulate it into place after it is set into the glue. I use my level as a straight edge to get a good straight line. After you get the system down, it installs as fast as regular nail on. HD carries it.
All of the above suggestions for fasteners are good along with using drywall adhesive.
Getting some really good suggestions here! I never thought about aluminum siding nails. That's something to look into. I did consider adhesive. And that still sounds like a pretty good idea. I've never had nearly as much rusting from standard drywall screws as the nails. I don't like galvanized deck screws for decking, because they break so easily! But, they should work fine for sheet rock, I would think.
Just out of curiosity, why use an aluminum nail for vinyl siding? Do the galvanized nails eventually rust? Also, are these siding nails basically the same as roofing nails? Same size shaft and head?
Thanks for all the ideas! Please keep 'em coming!
You don't need the aluminum nails for vinyl siding- galv. roofers are fine
Alum. nails are supposed to be used for alum. siding so that galvanic action doesn't occur between the dissimilar metals (alum. siding and galv. steel nails) and start corrosion.
I really don't know how much of a problem it could be, and I've pulled off plenty of alum. siding put up with roofing nails that wasn't in bad shape.
I used to be able to get an aluminum siding nail; like a roofing nail, but alum.
We used them for hanging aluminum siding (Duh!)
Haven't gotten them for a long time, but you might want to see if you can find them.
I use aluminum siding nails for installing vinyl siding . Alcoa makes them. Cost approx $5 per box. You can easily find them in sizes ranging from 1-1/4 to 2 inches at your local lumberyard or at the big box stores. You can get them plain or ring shanked.
As for drywall, I only use a few nails to hold sheet temporarily in place, then I use drywall screws. Never had a problem using screws. In shower areas and moisture prone areas, I use Grabber Guard brand drywall screws...these screws are ceramic coated...never encountered problems...this screw is actually designed as a deck screw so it can withstand the elements. Also, I use construction adhesive when hanging drywall...I personally believev the adhesive helps against "pops."
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Have you considered painting the walls brown?
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