Need small toilet for narrow half bath
Plan to redo a small half-bath in 100 year old house. Width is 46 inches and the design needs to permit one to walk past the toilet to access a storage alcove. Does anyone know specific models of toilets that both flush well and are not deep (do not project far from wall)? The in-wall tank units (Duravit Gerber) would be difficult to install because the foundation of the interior wall where the tank would fit is masonry.
The entire floor needs to be leveled, so adjusting the set-back is not a problem.
It might be possible to adjust the studs to allow the toilet to be set a few inches into the 6 inch wall. I have not done this, so any pictures or advice appreciated. When I’ve seen this pictured in magazines I have wondered if the floor plate is resected and whether that is proper.
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We solved a tight bath problem with a corner toilet. It provided more comfortable use and made the space seem bigger. Probably not going to help your situation.
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Try something like this:
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http://www.plumbingsupply.com/oldtoilet.html
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Front to back dimension is 28", which is standard for most round bowl toilets. But thanks for the suggestion.
If you scout junkyards for old ones, you may find one with a top-surface connection that can be set closer to the wall. Reproductions such as the one I found via Google (search terms: "high tank toilet") generally have a rear connection and match the standard 12" O.C. waste-pipe distance from the wall.
Still, that 28" dimension leaves you 18 inches of clear passage at shin level, which is sufficient for a walk-by to a linen closet.
BTW, 1.6 gpf high-tank toilets flush a helluva lot better than the standard models available today. The additional five feet of head really helps.
The only other suggestion I would have would be to use a pressure-assisted ('tankless') commercial wall-mount toilet, but most of those I've seen are oval bowls and I'm guessing they all require a pressure tank and booster pump somewhere in the plumbing system. Maybe one of the plumbers on the board could confirm or correct that....
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This doesn't really free up floor space for the toilet, does it? Toilet still sits the 12" away from the wall. The tank is just higher.
We had two baths that needed short toilets and we ended up using the American Standard Cadet round front bowl paired with a Spacesaver Tank. The tank is basically wider and shallower allowing the whole toilet to be moved 2" closer to the back wall (10" Rough In). While ours flushes reasonably well, they have since upgraded this model to a Cadet 3. I have installed several of the newer standard Cadet 3 (Elongated bowl, standard tank) and have found they flush extremely well. I don't see why the Spacesaver tank would perform any differently. Just make sure you use this specific combination (round bowl, Spacesaver tank). They market a Spacesaver combination in the big box stores that is an elongated bowl with the Spacesaver tank.
http://www.americanstandard-us.com/Assets/pdfs/as/specsheet/SpecSheet_1810.pdf
This spec sheet shows it at 26 1/4" deep, which would give you a little more space. If you were to also recess the toilet back into the back wall, you would have a pretty good amount of space.
Jamie
I redid my half bath a few months ago. It was even narrower than yours You need to check the offset and decide whether you want a "ADA" (tall) toilet or regular (I hate the tall ones myself).
I went with a Toto Ultimate. I think it is standard offset and total of 28 1/2" long (it also comes with an elongated bowl which is slightly longer). It is amazing how it swishes everything down with just 1.6 gal of water. While it is probably one of the best for getting stuff down in a single flush, it does have a problem with not having enough "downwash" along the back of the bowl to keep from collecting "skid marks". A toilet bowl brush will need to be used fairly frequently to keep the back of the bowl looking decent. I paid $219 (plus tax) for the Toto Ultimate at Granite Expo in Emeryville, Calif. It comes with its own toilet seat that is a little strange in that it has mechanism that cause it to lower very slowly when move it part way down.
There was a fairly lengthy discussion of toilets some time back, you may want to do a search on "toilets" or "Toto" if you want to read more than you get in this thread.
how much do you want to spend? for 3 grand may be the kohler hat box
Not sure where you are, if code figures into the equation, or what code you might be on but here we use a modified IRC 2003 and 21" in front of the toilet is required. If the total space is 46" and you were to do a 10" rough-in with a round toilet, that would only leave around 20" clearance... Or, I guess if you set it into the wall a few inches like you mentioned you might get 22". Regardless of what you do, hope no one using it has claustrophobia... Code or not, I always shoot for 30" in front of any bathroom fixture... I don't know... maybe you can find a $600 or $800 toilet that would be good enough... OTOH, there are times when you have to just say, this won't work...
I had a bathroom with 42 1/2 finished wall to finished wall. I used a Gerber 26in round bowl and it left 16 1/2in as a walkway to access a shower. Homeowners love it and use it daily.
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Urinal? Save the rest for the outhouse?
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I bought an Eljer model for the RV that we lived in temporarily. It was compact, and fit a 10" roughin. I can't remember the model #, but your supplier should be able to figure it out.
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