I MIGHT be in the market for a new miter saw. I have had a DeWalt DW705
for the past 12 years. Offered it to a builder friend who i always do crown and other stuff for. Always called it a homeowner POS. “Waste of time setting up that stupid stand you have!”
Don’t know why I asked him. The old Hitachi he has is total junk, so I thought I would ask.
“How much?”
“What?”
“How much?”
“I don’t know. I really didn’t think you would be interested.”
“Does the stand come with it?”
Who am I talking to?
So, I see a really good deal on the DeWalt 718 with the stand. Same place has a good deal on the Bosch 5412L.
I have looked at reviews, read all the threads here. Still can’t make up my mind.
Whatever I get I’m sure to have a long time.
Give me your input. Help me make up my mind so I can move on to my next dilemma.
Oh, buy the way, I like the verticle capacity of the DW. Over 6″. But am I the only one who cuts base standing up. The base. I will be standing up no matter which position the trim is in.
It isn’t a deal breaker, just wondering how others deal with it.
Thanks.
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I've got the DW slider also, but I think Bosch for my next. I like the front bevel lock for one. It's a real pain reaching around back when you have to change bevels a lot.
All reviews I've seen it rates very good. I've had great luck with other Bosch tools in the past.
look at the company...
it's opinion of you...
and what it will do for you if you ever need assistence from them...
Bosch.... hands down and no contest......
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I like to cut base standing up, too, as long as I've got good outfeed support. It's much faster to spin and lock the turret than it is to adjust the bevel. That goes for any saw.
I have the DW 718, but it doesn't work for stand-up cuts. The sliding fence tips back 1/16", making the cuts way out of square. It's fine for upside-down and backwards crown cuts, though.
The standard bevel detents are very good on the DW 718. I like them. They give you zero and 45, of course, also 22 1/2 (which is nice), and crown (which I never use).
But the alleged bevel lock for in-between angles doesn't work on mine. So there's no good way to cut base on the DW 718!
As for the Bosch, I compared the two saws side-by-side at the local pro shop. The Bosch's rear fence was definitely better, but it was out a good 1/32", making it, too, unsuitable for stand-up base cuts.
Before, I had wondered if maybe I'd had a bad kickback that bent the fence, but these two saws were brand new, never used.
The Kapex is looking better all the time. Want to buy my DeWalt?
AitchKay
Thanks for the info. But I will not be an enabler, buying the tools you need to make a living so that you can feed your green, German engineered addiction.Glenn
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Oops. Sorry. Never post after 10:00 PM. Never.Aitchkay
but it's only 20:33....
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I've got the DW 705, and the Bosch 5412. Both have their place.
The DW is the one I drag out the most just because I'm getting old, and its much lighter than the Bosch. Plus I have the DW set up on the DW stand, and the Bosch on the older Rigid miter saw stand, and I don't have to re-arrange everything in my van to fit the DW in.
I bring out the Bosch if I'm going to be on a job for a while, or if I need the extra cutting capacity. I am thinking about a different stand for the Bosch, to make it a bit more portable.
What?No takers for my saw?Gee..AitchKay
Yeah, we discussed this at lunch. I actually forgot which you had.Did you like the Bosch better or just decided to try it instead?I hate it when I can't make a decision.Glenn
I actually like my DW 705 better, but part of that is probably because I've cut a heck of a lot more with it, than the Bosch.
I do like the up front controls on the Bosch, although I'm not entirely used to them. I sometimes find myself reaching around the back to change the bevel angle, like I have to do on my DW.
I got the Bosch because I needed a saw with a bigger capacity ( 12" crosscuts), and it had gotten good reviews. It did have a bowed fence ( which seems to be a problem with them), but I got that replaced under warantee.
I've never used the Bosch but am on my second DW718.
I bought my first 718 shortly after they were introduced and after a year it developed some accuracy problems. I'm cutting hardwood stair treads daily and the saw was scalloping the cuts.
The company I work for bought me a replacement and it works flawlessly. The stand was a bonus and will hold 2 saws.
Uh oh, now I'm thinking about the Milwaukee.
Getting good reviews over at JLCOnline.
Indecisiveness sucks.
So do vacuums.
Well, if you check out the Milwaukee, or any other saw, for that matter, take along a try square, and check out that back fence to see if it's usable.I haven't done that check on the Kapex, but if it passes, it's worth the money.Let's see... should buy the saw that works, or the one that doesn't?I wonder... ?AitchKay
Dont know anything about them, and it may go against IMERC's rules of choice ( picking a company with strong customer support), but what about the Rigid 12" slider?
Saw one at H.D. a few months ago. It was big!!! Thing that stuck out was that it had a big bevel scale. One might actually be able to see the difference between 24 degrees and 24.5 degrees. Thats what I wish saw makers would change, put on a bevel scale that I can read!!!!
"One might actually be able to see the difference between 24 degrees and 24.5 degrees. Thats what I wish saw makers would change, put on a bevel scale that I can read!!!!"I'm not familiar with other saws, but I have a DW 705 (too bad, no longer made) like Shep and I really like it. Now, this saw has a vernier scale on it which makes even 0.25 degree settings possible.
I have newer 12" dual compound (not up on
model numbers). Yes indeed that scale is hard to read.
Made worse by the fact that it's in the line of the sawdust. That aside it is a very solid and accurate tool. Nothing
else to bitch about at all.
I have the same saw. Love the vernier scale. But I'm talking about the bevel scale ( blade tilt), not the miter scale.
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Oh, OK, right. Yeah, the bevel scale is hardly usable with precision. If that's something I need to do, then I cut a block or whatever on the flat with the bevel setting, then use that as a gauge to set the bevel.
Whatever your saw choice, this should be your stand. http://www.sawhelper.com/
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