FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter X Instagram Tiktok YouTube Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe
Log In
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Restoration
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
Log In

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

Newbie testing the waters…

| Posted in General Discussion on April 5, 2002 02:07am

Hello fellow nailbenders.  I’m just seeing how this place works.  Here’s some pertinent, or at least irrelevant, information on me:

I’m not a professional tradesman.  I’ve built a couple of decks and assisted my brother-in-law in some remodeling projects.  My tool collection is LAME: a DeWalt 18V cordless driver/drill, Hitachi sliding compound miter saw, Bosch barrel grip jigsaw.  They’re all nice tools, but of course I want more.  I worked in lumberyards for 10 years, so I have some perspective “from the other side of the counter”.  I’d rather buy wood at a local lumberyard than the “big box”.

I’m here to learn, and will chime in on threads I feel I can contribute to.

Bob

 

 

 

Reply
  • X
  • facebook
  • linkedin
  • pinterest
  • email
  • add to favorites Log in or Sign up to save your favorite articles

Replies

  1. FastEddie1 | Apr 05, 2002 03:23am | #1

    Where are you?

  2. 4Lorn1 | Apr 05, 2002 06:41am | #2

    Welcome. Glad to see new people.

    Perhaps you can enlighten us, from the sales perspective, about specials, value, illogical tool name preferences and how to get the most from the local lumber or hardware store. Anything you can add, from whatever perspective you choose to take, will be most welcomed by myself and, I assume, most other forum denizens.

    Have fun.

  3. User avater
    DaveMason2 | Apr 05, 2002 09:05am | #3

    Come on in and take yer shoes off, set awhile.

    Welcome to Breaktime

    Dave

  4. IanDGilham | Apr 05, 2002 11:25am | #4

    Welcome -- and I don't think the Hitachi is lame -- it was a toss-up for me whether I bought that or my Ryobi, I'd had really good reports on both.

    1. Piffin | Apr 05, 2002 12:27pm | #5

      Lame would be Craftsman, B&D, Ryobi, or Chicago tools.

      You've got the right stuff. The DW is bordrline but we'll let you in with it.

      ;>)

      Welcome aboard.

      Excellence is its own reward!

      1. FastEddie1 | Apr 05, 2002 11:46pm | #7

        Skil falls into the lame category (except for the model 77).

  5. User avater
    BossHog | Apr 05, 2002 06:26pm | #6

    You know, I was thinking the other day that we haven't ever had anyone who worked at a lumberyard drop in on us here - Unless I've just missed something, which is entirely possible.

    Always glad to have another geek around........

  6. finebuilder | Apr 06, 2002 12:13am | #8

    Coffee, Welcome, I too am pretty new here.  All the folks seem pretty cool! Very helpful, sometimes mischievous ( wouldn't have it any other way, right?) always informative! Concerning the tool quality and experience; most of us started out with nothing and still have most of it left.  It takes time and desire.  The rest will come along eventually.  Again, Welcome!  Come on in the waters fine.

                                                      Miami Sammi

    1. kartman0 | Apr 07, 2002 04:20pm | #9

      I am about as newbie as newbie can be. In the last 72 hours I spent a dang near $1K in tools and haven't plugged them in for the first time, yet! Picked up the following:

      DeWalt DW708 Sliding Compound Miter

      DeWalt DW369 Circular Saw

      Ryobi RJ160VK Reciprocating Saw

      Bostitch N80SB Framing Nailer

      RoboToolz RQ01001 Laser Level.

      I bought these to finish my basement, which includes creating a room out of two via removing a wall. All poured concrete walls are being framed in, too. That 708 scares me, but I know I'm more man than it (its a tool, remember, not a man).  :)

      1. Cole | Apr 07, 2002 06:17pm | #10

        Kartman,

        Did you get your saw to unlock?  I have the 708 and can't think of any reason why it wouldn't unlock.  It is a sweet tool, but heavy.  I suggest the portable stand to go with it.  Mine is on site in Wyoming or I would go see if I could figure out how to unlock it.  Good luck.

        ColeCole Dean

        Dean Contracting

        1. kartman0 | Apr 08, 2002 04:38pm | #17

          Yes, Mad Dog on another thread got me up and working. It would seem the black trigger/handle assembly paints a different picture for anyone not use to the 708s right out of the box. When I squeezed the handle the 'trigger' stayed in place and the handle travelled downward. Mad Dog instructed me to snap the 'trigger' (in the upwards direction). I had a little resistance but it did move upwards and this solved my little mystery. WooHoo, let the teeth start spinning (and my fingers and limbs stay clear of them!)!!

          1. rez | Apr 08, 2002 05:42pm | #18

            Kart- A while back I decided to get reciprocating saw. It was a toss-up between pc's Tigersaw and the Milwaukee. The tool dealer wanted to know what my main uses would be and I replied I wanted something strong that would stand the test of time and be multi functional. He recommended the Milwaukee seeing the Tigersaw with it's added orbital action which is helpful for cutting wood also has something like 6 additional moving parts inside compared to the Milwaukee. This means an increased opportunity for something to go wrong. Seemed sensible to me and I've been a happy camper ever since. It's really a durable machine and the wrenchless blade change feature is a real time saver.

      2. finebuilder | Apr 08, 2002 03:35am | #11

        Kartman,

               As they say: "all dressed up and no place to go"! Well this won't apply to you for long!  Word of advice...Respect the Blades!!!! There are a whole lot of didgetless ( sp?) folks who just simply forgot where thier fingers were in relation to that ever hungry spinning blade.  Like working w/electricity...Don't have to fear it, but you had better respect it!  You prob know this but like Helen told me,"never hurts to think safety" (loose quote).  Before long you'll be building w/ the best of them.I really like the Robo laser level.  Makes for a nice finished product!  Keep me posted on the project, ok?

                                            

                                                                Miami

        1. kartman0 | Apr 08, 2002 04:14am | #12

          Believe me when I say I have more than a healthy amount of respect and fear for sharp objects spinning around in close proximity to any part of me. This attitude had allowed me to keep all ten digits on my hands along with the ten digits on my feet!

          1. finebuilder | Apr 08, 2002 08:19am | #14

            Gotta agree w/ Joe on taking the Ryobi saw back.   Milwky supersawzall is great!  Recently I bought a Porter Cable Tigersaw that I like very much also ( have both).One thing that I (personally) like about both is the "keyless" twist-locking Blade changer. No allen wrench to loose and strip, etc. The ryobi just doesn't have the balance or power ( again this is just my opinion).

                                                                        Miami

          2. Splintie | Apr 08, 2002 08:41am | #15

            Hi, sammi,

            I had the Milwaukee sawzall and gave it to a roofer starting out in business who stripped and reshingled my two-storey Victorian with five dormers for $1000 while i was wearing a leg brace. He did a fine job and i justified getting the Tiger Saw, since it cut so much faster. Unfortunately, this was just before they went to tool-free blade change.

            I'd also lose the torpedo laser and get the remote control Robolaser.

            Kartmann, don't you wish you'd asked us first?  ;^)

          3. Piffin | Apr 09, 2002 02:07am | #22

            The Ryobi doesn't have the life expectancy either, but hey, the guy is just doing a few weekend projects, maybe it'll last ten years if he babies it.

            But then again, if he bought it at one of those boxes with a satisfaction gaurantee, he can use it and loose it.

            Excellence is its own reward!

          4. cityhix | Apr 09, 2002 02:11am | #24

            Re: Milwaukee quick change.

            Has anybody looked into switching out the old style (allen wrench) for the nifty quick change system?  Cityhix

      3. joeh | Apr 08, 2002 06:54am | #13

        Take that RYobi sawzall back where you got it & get a Milwaukee. Joe H

        1. kartman0 | Apr 08, 2002 03:56pm | #16

          Joe,

          Thanks for the advice. I bought the Ryobi for a single in-home task, which will require me to cut down a couple of headers and take down one load-bearing wall. If I were going to use this for any other purpose (professionally or otherwise) I'd definately had gone with the real Sawzill. Being that this was going to be a one-time use, I thought this was a decent option to literally renting one for a day. I have every intention of giving/selling it after the basement is done.

  7. djmarro | Apr 08, 2002 07:48pm | #19

    Another newbie. I have 20 years experience in the Carpentry/Maintenance business  and the same in the Structural Steel business. So far have I have enjoyed all discussions. Will contribute when I can. I'm located in Southern Maine. the steel business is getting slow, so am considering going out on my own in the Carpentry/Maintenance business.

                                                            Dana

    1. User avater
      bobl | Apr 08, 2002 08:05pm | #20

      have you seen (reckOfest)

      http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/list.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&ctx=256&cacheTag=x58-28bobl          Volo Non Voleo      Joe's cheat sheet

    2. CoffeeGeek | Apr 09, 2002 12:05am | #21

      Hey Kartman, ya 'jacked my thread :-)

      I'm outta the lumber business now, the lumberyard I worked at shut down 4 years ago after being in operation since the 1930's.  It wasn't a matter of the "big boxes" putting them out of business; the yard was purchased by a company whose main business was exporting to Japan.  When the Asian market hit the skids, they scaled back (WAY BACK), and closed the lumberyard.  Really sad.

      I didn't say my TOOLS were lame, the lameness is how few I have.  The few I have work quite well, though.  I started building a workbench over the weekend (laminated 2X4's glued and screwed) and my Hitachi got a new 60 tooth Freud blade, and the DeWalt got a workout driving nearly 100 screws.  Hint: don't use "Fastap" brand screws on soft wood.  They are "self-countersinking" and will go clear through the wood if you're not paying attention.  Not that it happened to me or anything.

      Thanks to all for the warm welcome.  I'm from Seattle.  I don't drink Charbucks coffee; in fact, I roast my own beans.  Don't look so amazed.  It's simple and the best coffee you'll ever drink.

      Bob

      1. Sancho | Apr 09, 2002 02:10am | #23

        Welcome aboard C.Geek. Ill slip a buck out from under my favorite table next to the ladies room and buy ya a drink...Hey jewel set one up for the CoffeeGeek....<G> Darkworksite4: When the job is to small for everyone else, Its just about right for me"

      2. Piffin | Apr 09, 2002 02:15am | #25

        " in fact, I roast my own beans. Don't look so amazed."

        Here in Maine, we bake our own beans on saturday night.

        For a good drink, we "visit the cellar"

        Excellence is its own reward!

  8. Wet_Head | Apr 09, 2002 05:36am | #26

    Welcome... hope you enjoy yourself here... watch out for a few who care nothing except to be nasty, arrogant, and start fights.  Actually there is only one like that... other than that this is a fine bunch of folks here.

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

Custom Built-ins With Job-Site Tools

From building boxes and fitting face frames to installing doors and drawers, these techniques could be used for lots of cabinet projects.

Featured Video

How to Install Cable Rail Around Wood-Post Corners

Use these tips to keep cables tight and straight for a professional-looking deck-railing job.

Related Stories

  • Guest Suite With a Garden House
  • Podcast Episode 688: Obstructed Ridge Vent, Buying Fixer-Uppers, and Flashing Ledgers
  • FHB Podcast Segment: Finding the Right Fixer-Upper
  • Keeping It Cottage-Sized

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 332 - July 2025
    • Custom Built-ins With Job-Site Tools
    • Fight House Fires Through Design
    • Making the Move to Multifamily
  • Issue 331 - June 2025
    • A More Resilient Roof
    • Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander
    • Ducted vs. Ductless Heat Pumps
  • Issue 330 - April/May 2025
    • Deck Details for Durability
    • FAQs on HPWHs
    • 10 Tips for a Long-Lasting Paint Job
  • Issue 329 - Feb/Mar 2025
    • Smart Foundation for a Small Addition
    • A Kominka Comes West
    • Making Small Kitchens Work
  • Issue 328 - Dec/Jan 2024
    • How a Pro Replaces Columns
    • Passive House 3.0
    • Tool Test: Compact Line Lasers

Fine Home Building

Newsletter Sign-up

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox.

  • Green Building Advisor

    Building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox.

  • Old House Journal

    Repair, renovation, and restoration tips, plus special offers, in your inbox.

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters

Follow

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell or share my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2025 Active Interest Media. All rights reserved.

Fine Homebuilding receives a commission for items purchased through links on this site, including Amazon Associates and other affiliate advertising programs.

  • Home Group
  • Antique Trader
  • Arts & Crafts Homes
  • Bank Note Reporter
  • Cabin Life
  • Cuisine at Home
  • Fine Gardening
  • Fine Woodworking
  • Green Building Advisor
  • Garden Gate
  • Horticulture
  • Keep Craft Alive
  • Log Home Living
  • Military Trader/Vehicles
  • Numismatic News
  • Numismaster
  • Old Cars Weekly
  • Old House Journal
  • Period Homes
  • Popular Woodworking
  • Script
  • ShopNotes
  • Sports Collectors Digest
  • Threads
  • Timber Home Living
  • Traditional Building
  • Woodsmith
  • World Coin News
  • Writer's Digest
Active Interest Media logo
X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Online Learning

  • Courses
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • FHB House
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • X
  • YouTube
  • instagram
  • facebook
  • pinterest
  • Tiktok

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

Enjoy unlimited access to Fine Homebuilding. Join Now

Already a member? Log in

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in

Privacy Policy Update

We use cookies, pixels, script and other tracking technologies to analyze and improve our service, to improve and personalize content, and for advertising to you. We also share information about your use of our site with third-party social media, advertising and analytics partners. You can view our Privacy Policy here and our Terms of Use here.

Cookies

Analytics

These cookies help us track site metrics to improve our sites and provide a better user experience.

Advertising/Social Media

These cookies are used to serve advertisements aligned with your interests.

Essential

These cookies are required to provide basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website.

Delete My Data

Delete all cookies and associated data