FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter X Instagram Tiktok YouTube Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe
Log In
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Restoration
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
Log In

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

old and in the way

bjr | Posted in General Discussion on May 21, 2003 05:00am

i recently had rotator cuff surgery for a work related incident. i’m a 48 YO journeyman carpenter specializing in commercial TI. question is, where do busted up, old broken carpenters go other than management and still use the skills i’ve learned over the years. i love being a carpenter and hate the thought of having to change. any thoughts?

Reply
  • X
  • facebook
  • linkedin
  • pinterest
  • email
  • add to favorites Log in or Sign up to save your favorite articles

Replies

  1. User avater
    G80104 | May 21, 2003 05:49am | #1

    Bj,

          I know a bunch of 50+ ex carpenters. They run Handyman Services turn down work & make $60K -$80K a year. Some do Home inspectioins. Still tons of work out there, most young guys just dont know how to find it! People who just bought the house down the street paid an older handyman  $ 150. 00 to change out some lockset on the new used house they bought. Frist 2 guys  did the no show! Maybe 2hrs labor they supplied the locksets.

    1. xMikeSmith | May 21, 2003 06:07am | #2

      bj.. i'm 58... my buddy is 59.. and another one is 60... we're all still pluggin...

      once you  recover from your rotator cuff, think about remodeling.. put your skills and knowledge to work instead of your backMike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

      1. darrel | May 21, 2003 06:26am | #3

        Cash in that disability insurance and get a hammock.

    2. bjr | May 21, 2003 07:33am | #5

      great idea, thanks. how do they advertize or do they?

      1. JohnSprung | May 21, 2003 09:00pm | #9

        My BIL does that.  He started out by word of mouth, stayed with word of mouth, and gets loads more work than he can handle.

        -- J.S.

    3. bjr | May 21, 2003 07:49am | #6

      what part of the country do you reside in ?

      1. User avater
        G80104 | May 21, 2003 03:40pm | #7

             Bj,  

                        A-lot of the guys place ads in the small papers. One guy who comes to mind runs an ad like " My wife calls me  Mr. Fix-It, You can Call me too, Ph.# 303-123-4567"   We live outside the Denver area. The Handymen  due light work such as Storm doors  fix decks, small concrete repairs etc. I know of one company that does work in one of the areas largest gated community, This guy bills out @ $70. per hr. He has 4-5 employees all of his service trucks seem to be late model trucks. (not bad fo a guy that installs Christmas Light for Rich lazy homeowners)

  2. Piffin | May 21, 2003 06:48am | #4

    Where do old carpenters go?

    To Breaktime.

    To drafting and design work.

    To Sunny Florida

    To the drug store

    to Pilates classes

    It sounds like your rotator cuf is pretty serious, Have you made your funeral plans yet?

    ;)

    .

    Excellence is its own reward!



    Edited 5/20/2003 11:50:15 PM ET by piffin

  3. dustmonkee | May 21, 2003 07:51pm | #8

    Habitat for Humanity - they'd love a guy like you.  But be patient, working with volunteers is unlike what you're used to.  Sorry about the cuff.

    regards

    1. bjr | May 22, 2003 05:24am | #13

      hey, great idea. i used to be a social worker years ago and combining the two is a great idea. thanks

      1. dustmonkee | May 22, 2003 03:30pm | #16

        You're exactly right - I'm a social worker and have been a crew leader with HFH for 10 years.  It's a good mix.  Now, with that bad cuff, you'd never be able to write all those progress notes as a social worker!

        Good luck with the pitching arm

        regards

  4. User avater
    JeffBuck | May 22, 2003 12:53am | #10

    get yourself a young kid to boss around....teach him something every now and then....charge enough to pay both of ya well...he'll probably stick around.

    I think the whole reason my Dad had children was because he got tired of lifting the heavy stuff.....I'm positive him never wanted to do drywall again factored in too....

    But at your advanced age....you're probably best hiring a kid instead of making your own and waiting till he's ready......

    Jeff

    Buck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

     Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite                  

    1. xMikeSmith | May 22, 2003 01:01am | #11

      speaking of which, when does Corey get his tool belt ?Mike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

  5. alias | May 22, 2003 04:12am | #12

    hey b.j. 48 to young to retire chin up do some re-hab, i went threw my second back operation last year. and i'm back to work and trying to work smart. and so- far it's working out. one more thing what are the symptoms of a torn rotor cuff and all the pains i would really appreciate it. the shoulder flares up lately and i'm wondering....... thanks and a sincere good luck....bear

    1. bjr | May 22, 2003 05:53am | #14

      #1. go to the google search engine

      #2. type in "has anybody heard of a labral tear?"

      #3.hit the search and wait for this web forum for people that are in various stages of shoulder pain. from "i've got this pain in my shoulder" to 12 weeks post operative. this site has been really a resource and inspiration for me in my recovery. i just wish i would have found it a month before my surgery.  my doctor says that the risk factor for shoulder injuries of this type are being a male in america over forty. but from this web site you'll see it's not just men that get this. if you have shoulder pain, and have been in the trades for a significant portion of your life, there is a good chance there has been some damage of some sort. i would get a good orthopedic surgeon. they will want to start you off on a conservative approach first, i.e. antiinflamitories, physical therapy come back in a month sort of a thing, maybe some x-rays too. if your pain is considerable and disruptive to your fishing or other enjoyment of life and you have the insurance and or resources to get an MRI do it right off the bat. and make sure to have them use the dye. this will tell you definetly if there is any damage and if surgery is indicated. i went the conservative route and ultimatley did more damage because i thought i was healed after the pain was masked by the antiinflamitories.  now i'm 12 weeks post op and am looking down the barrel of 8-10 months of painful recovery. let me repeat that........painful. i wish i would have had more onfo earlier on. good luck and don't put it off for so long, it will only get worse.

      1. Rarebreed | May 22, 2003 01:19pm | #15

        bj,

         Situation was a little different, but it might still help you.

         Work got a little slow a few years ago for us. I had to stay busy, so the wife runs an ad in the local paper. Titled it Rent A Carpenter. Listed some of what we did. Consultations, Install Locksets, Hang doors, etc...

         I was charging $50.00/hr for me and a helper. Stayed covered up until some of the bigger projects I had in the works came through.

         Noticed about six months later someone else was advertising same basic services, similar title. He has two or three trucks running around town now, and always seems busy.TCW Specialists in Custom Remodeling.

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

Fight House Fires Through Design

Smart construction decisions and material choices can significantly improve occupant safety and survival in the event of a fire in the home.

Featured Video

SawStop's Portable Tablesaw is Bigger and Better Than Before

The 10-in. Jobsite Saw PRO has a wider table, a new dust-control port, and a more versatile fence, along with the same reliable safety mechanism included in all SawStop tablesaws.

Related Stories

  • Stop Ice Dams When Reroofing
  • Outdoor Lighting
  • Eichlers Get an Upgrade
  • Picture-Perfect Pergola

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 332 - July 2025
    • Custom Built-ins With Job-Site Tools
    • Fight House Fires Through Design
    • Making the Move to Multifamily
  • Issue 331 - June 2025
    • A More Resilient Roof
    • Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander
    • Ducted vs. Ductless Heat Pumps
  • Issue 330 - April/May 2025
    • Deck Details for Durability
    • FAQs on HPWHs
    • 10 Tips for a Long-Lasting Paint Job
  • Issue 329 - Feb/Mar 2025
    • Smart Foundation for a Small Addition
    • A Kominka Comes West
    • Making Small Kitchens Work
  • Issue 328 - Dec/Jan 2024
    • How a Pro Replaces Columns
    • Passive House 3.0
    • Tool Test: Compact Line Lasers

Fine Home Building

Newsletter Sign-up

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox.

  • Green Building Advisor

    Building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox.

  • Old House Journal

    Repair, renovation, and restoration tips, plus special offers, in your inbox.

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters

Follow

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell or share my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2025 Active Interest Media. All rights reserved.

Fine Homebuilding receives a commission for items purchased through links on this site, including Amazon Associates and other affiliate advertising programs.

  • Home Group
  • Antique Trader
  • Arts & Crafts Homes
  • Bank Note Reporter
  • Cabin Life
  • Cuisine at Home
  • Fine Gardening
  • Fine Woodworking
  • Green Building Advisor
  • Garden Gate
  • Horticulture
  • Keep Craft Alive
  • Log Home Living
  • Military Trader/Vehicles
  • Numismatic News
  • Numismaster
  • Old Cars Weekly
  • Old House Journal
  • Period Homes
  • Popular Woodworking
  • Script
  • ShopNotes
  • Sports Collectors Digest
  • Threads
  • Timber Home Living
  • Traditional Building
  • Woodsmith
  • World Coin News
  • Writer's Digest
Active Interest Media logo
X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Online Learning

  • Courses
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • FHB House
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • X
  • YouTube
  • instagram
  • facebook
  • pinterest
  • Tiktok

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

Enjoy unlimited access to Fine Homebuilding. Join Now

Already a member? Log in

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in

Privacy Policy Update

We use cookies, pixels, script and other tracking technologies to analyze and improve our service, to improve and personalize content, and for advertising to you. We also share information about your use of our site with third-party social media, advertising and analytics partners. You can view our Privacy Policy here and our Terms of Use here.

Cookies

Analytics

These cookies help us track site metrics to improve our sites and provide a better user experience.

Advertising/Social Media

These cookies are used to serve advertisements aligned with your interests.

Essential

These cookies are required to provide basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website.

Delete My Data

Delete all cookies and associated data