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   wallyo | May 12, 2003 07:27pm | #1

   This is usual for doulbe hung there is a dado there you probably can not see it.  That part of the window does not get much weather so the putty stays intact and the paint hides it.  It is about 1/4" wide and about the same deep the glass slide up into it then you cram in putty and smooth it flat.

   It is harder to remove If you are reglazing you only need to replace it if it is falling out. If you are replacing the pane  I find it easier to break the glass then pull on the small pieces with your hand wearing leather or rubber gloves.  Sometimes a heat gun helps.

   
   

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   Edited 5/12/2003 12:33:40 PM ET by wally

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   tck | May 12, 2003 07:39pm | #2

   Thanks wally. Are you saying then that I don't have to putty that area? I haven't broken any glass on a lower sash, yet. I guess I'll deal with that if/when it happens.

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   wallyo | May 12, 2003 09:06pm | #4

   If there is any missing from the dado shove some in by all means. 

   What I was trying to say is that it usually stay, put your beveled glazing on the other  three sides might fall out but that top edge is usually very stubborn and in most cases does not require repair.

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   TomOBrien_fh | May 13, 2003 09:13pm | #9

   Instead of glazing putty, I'd use an acrylic latex caulk to bed the top edge of the glass in the dado that you're describing.

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   wflather | May 12, 2003 08:23pm | #3

   The 1800's home I used to own had a similar system in the 2 over 2 double hungs.  The top edge of each pane slipped into a glass-thickness dado in the top rail of the sash.  The other 3 edges were glazed traditionally.  I suppose there may have been some air infiltration, but I did not notice it, the house had enough other leaks anyway... 

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   b1gcountry | May 12, 2003 09:46pm | #5

   What have your experiences been so far with this job? I am considering the same thing, and would like to know how its going for you.

   Tom

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   tck | May 12, 2003 10:07pm | #6

   BC, I've only finished 1 set so far but have gotten another one out of the frame. I'm taking out both sashes (which requires a lot of pounding, as all top sashes are painted shut), removing the old putty, stripping all paint, reglazing, replacing glass when I break some, priming with oil base primer and top coating with latex. I'll replace weight cords when needed and I'm also stripping the frames and repainting. I have metal weatherstripping in place on all windows which is kind of hard to get out without bending it all up. That's another question in itself. It's going pretty slow, but that's because it's NHL playoff time.

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   b1gcountry | May 13, 2003 12:12am | #7

   Can you believe those playoffs so far?! At least on the Western Side. The East has gone as planned (Flyers drop out in 2nd round, NJ makes the Finals...) But those Ducks, and the Wild! So you think Anahein will go up 3-1 and then lose in seven???

   Anyway, that sounds exactly as I plan on doing to my windows, only I will be starting with the storm windows which attatch over the DHs. Did you do a special test for Lead Paint beforehand? Were there any books/articles/intoxicants that helped you figure out how to do all that, or did you just wing it? Just so you know, I have the same type windows with six panes on both sashes, and there is no glazing on mine where you mention about yours, but there is also none on the bottom of the top sash, IIRC (at least the ones in the bathrooms, as those are the only ones I regularly admire.)

   Tom

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   tck | May 13, 2003 03:27pm | #8

   BC, I didn't test for lead as I figure I have it. These windows weren't painted for at least 40 years on the outside and multiple layers on the inside. I'm just taking the necessary precautions based on everything I've seen and read over the years. In fact, there's an article on the FHB home page about lead paint. Mine are a simple 3 over 1 setup. Have fun with the 6/6.

   The playoffs are wild (no pun intended). As I Flyers fan, I can't root for NJ so I'll go with Ott. in the east and the west is up for grabs, although Jiggy's looked unbeatable.