Need to finish this shd for under $15 total. Roll roofing would be $40.
Wall and roof Sheathing is marine grade baltic birch, thinking of simply caulking and painting the roof. (caulk is free samples from JLC live, paint garage sale freebies).
Needs to only last 20 years or so.
Anybody tried just painting roof sheating? Or any other ideas for roofing? May use some vinyl flooring pieces for roofing also.
Here is the shed, took 3 days over Christmas Vacation.
More details: 3 day Christmas vacation project, Total cost per sq ft under 6 cents. Had 2 ea 18 ft 8×8 PT rejects, plus lots of other wood, time for ‘nuther shed – buried one end of 8x8s 6 ft deep for rigidity, new High bay shed, dirt floor, free surplus windows, roofing consists of leftover vinyl flooring scraps. . Total tool usage: backhoe, front loader, N88, level, sidewinder, hammer, tape measure (only when needed for ‘aesthetics’), axe, compressor All wood ‘free’. Build to last maximum of 30 years, should be dead by then (or at least slowed down) . Total costs so far under 5 cents per sq ft, probably 90% of cost. Have a 10 ft rollup door to go on the front. Gas, $1.50; diesel, $4.50; 16d, 20 sticks, $4.15; 8d, $4.80; 3 days spent so far in site prep, getting materials from various stacks, and construction. Estimate another day to finish structure, 1/2 day to hand garage door. May not even bother to paint it. Past effort salvaging materials not counted, that is ‘recreation’ <G>. BTW, the logs for the ‘rafters’ were trees I planted about 25-30 years ago. PS forgot the 40 cents or so for electricity in the cost! |
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Collect a lot of tin cans, cut them open and flatten them, and use them for shingles.
If I had access to a quantity of #10 cans, I probably would do that. Lay'em like clay tiles, one curve up and the next down.
Smaller cans and the cost of the nails to attach them would drive me over my $15 goal!! Could'a saved $5 bucks on the framing by using loose nails and hand driving, too lazy these days for that. Sure ain't gonna drive a thousand plus 3/4" roofing nails by hand, part of the challenge is the fun, sore thumb and heel of hand aint fun.
Well, I was assuming you'd use recycled nails.The traditional can to use for this would be 5-gallon kerosene cans or the like, but of course that's all been supplanted with plastic.(Hmmm -- maybe shingle it with AOL CDs? Plastic pop bottles split open somehow?)
Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm but the harm does not interest them. --T.S. Eliot
Yor comment about plastic bottles caught my attention. I know there is a way to
heat pklastic milk jugs and shpe them into a myriad of useful items. I had one melt
on the heater and it got me thinking. We should be able to utilize this common
waste.
larry
Good idear except that type of plastic is designed to disinegrate even when out of sunlight in a few years.
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How long do you think the rest of this building is going to last??
Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm but the harm does not interest them. --T.S. Eliot
With the materials Junkhound is using?
A long time.
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The 30 inch dia cottonwood "sill plate" for the back wall (set on old busted up blacktop slabs) would likely be the first to go, unless it is the railroad tie side sill plates sitting on the ground.
As said, if they dont tax me outa here, 2 weeks after DW and I are both dead and no grandkids move in, ther'd likely be a plat for 30 or more houses here, no chance any of the sheds would survive a big Link-belt track hoe.
If it is not raining tomorrow (poured today all day) , I'll take some pix of carp. ant activity in the woodpile I raided for the shed wood: where the cover leaked - ants ate clean thru pine and fir stacked against the birch ply, only nibbled at the marine baltic birch edge a little bit, -- stack has been there untouched for 17 years. The birch is one or the other of BS 6566 british standard or a German DIN product, great stuff. Another thread could BS about the IRC not allowing me to use it for houses, no PS2 conforming stamp!! International Residential Code my A$$!!
no chance any of the sheds would survive a big Link-belt track hoe.
Your mistake, you should have bureid 18" culvert pipe 16' in the ground filled with #8 rebar and concrete as corner post. They may be able to get the out eventually, but the builder would become a legend.
There used to be sheds around rural Mass. when I was young, roofed & sided with flattened out tin cans - not sure what came in them, but they were the rectangular gallon tins that paint thinner used to come in, before they went to plastic.
Also shacks that people lived in sided with tar paper nailed on with homemade tins cut from those cans.
There is a large assisted living complex here that has two large fake chimneys on the main building.
The chimney's were built before the roof was shingled.
The shingles are properly flashed/step flashed to the chimney structure.
The roof on each 5'x5' chimney was constructed as follows.
One two by four running across the opening to catch the edge of the four foot wide piece of OSB. A one foot wide piece of OSB to finish up.
Then a 2x4 laid on the flat right down the middle. Then two pieces, each 2.5'x 5' were laid so there was a slight slope from the middle to the ends.
It took five or six years before the rot got bad enough for the aluminum wraps to start blowing off (nails into rotted lumber do not hold) and the water infiltration to make it into someones apartment.
So figure that unpainted OSB was good for a couple of years, maybe even three!
What that means for painted marine grade baltic birch I don't know.
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paint will hold you till a more secure roofing material will show itself.
be a cold weather time asphalt roofing hunter.
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Cover it with plastic, with dirt on top, your choice of vegetation to stabilize it.
Good idea.
Yep, I do have a pile of old polyethyene, may try the dirt route, good camoflage for the aerial tax survielance threat also. Or put dirt on top of old vinyl flooring to keep the UV off. My bucket goes high enough to dump a few yards of dirt up there, and its strong enough for about 35 psf. (less 15psf for snow worst case = about 2" of dirt = less than 2 loader scoops spread out)
Yeah, a long tradition behind sod roofs. They can be constructed to be remarkably durable and rot-free (though I wouldn't expect that in a $15 building).
Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm but the harm does not interest them. --T.S. Eliot
Yep, definetely deceided to go with sod. Over combo of vinyl flooring scraps and a few 22 ga galv sheets available.
Should have it on in a few weeks, will post pix.
In the green building, VaTom said he'd done a sod roof.
Anybody have any idea if 2" of dirt is enough? Dont realy care if the grass/weeds die or dry up in the summer, unheated so no need for insulation.
DW suggested throwing about 30 yards of Fir twigs on top too (left over from Dec storm), nobody ever know there was a shed there from the air. May even nail some branches up over the plywood siding joints for battens.
BTW, re" the $15, if I would have had to buy the baltic birch, the 5 ft by 10 ft panels run close to $100 each and I used 16 of them! 737 rudders are shipped from Ireland on pallets made of these sheets, got them free.
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If you have a junk yard, why not roof it with license plates?
LPs are Aluminum - too valuable as scrap for roofing.
Was thinking of using car doors or windshields though <G>
PS: probably use some washer and dryer cabinets under the sod also, good area per unit when flattened. Car hoods after flattening with a dozer also may be an option.
Edited 1/2/2007 6:18 pm ET by junkhound
LPs are Aluminum - too valuable as scrap for roofing.
It is a roof over your own improvement we are talking about, but maybe you count the license plates as income and therefore more valuable than $15.00.
I was thinking that you should have posted sooner and we could have taken up a collection for a first class roof......not that dryer lids, car hoods and sod would not be first class.
Maybe you could post some pics of rpgress, including the dozer flattening of select material.
Have you consulted a backwoods engineer, I know some hillbillies from my home state of Tennessee who could offer some design tips. Car hood septic tank lids are in vogue now, but they were doing it before it was cool, and specing a roof is a lot easier that the modern marvel moonshine stils they build. Call: BR 549 and ask for Junior.
watch on the side of the highways around billboards... most are one piece computer printed graphics on vinyl... most are more than 20ft x 60ft and should last for years... they toss most of em at sign change time... some get blown off... look arounf they are killer tarps
total cost... $0 should be in your budget
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ahh, there is a valuable tidbit of data!
be an economical shed floor vaporbarrier
Once used an old above ground swimming pool liner for a base of crushed cement floor in a dome shed;o)
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