HELP!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone out there give me some advice and or direction on the possibilities of painting ceramic tiles. I really don’t want the expense of removing and re surfacing the walls.
hammertime
HELP!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone out there give me some advice and or direction on the possibilities of painting ceramic tiles. I really don’t want the expense of removing and re surfacing the walls.
hammertime
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Like is it possible? Sure. I've seen it done, and I've seen the results a couple of years down the road. Don't think I'd recommend it. The stuff I have seen is electrostatic painting which supposedly will stick to the ceramic. I don't know. maybe it was the product, maybe it's the guys doing the work. It didn't hold up very well. If all you're doing is a backsplash over the kitchen counter, then maybe that's a worthwhile option. But a shower? Fughedaboudit.
"The child is grown / The dream is gone / And I have become / Comfortably numb " lyrics by Roger Waters
thanks RW its in a house that i just bought for resale so maybe that wouldn't be a good idea ....you know our reputation is all we have and i don't need a bad one
There are several very thin tile type products you can glue over the existing tiles.
Have seen them advertised in tile websites. Some are metallic accents and such.
May be something you can use.
Do a Google search for ceramic tile companies. Will post later who they were if I remember.
thanks ruby that may be the best way to go. If you remember i would appreciate you dropping me a line, in the mean time i will check out tile sites.
thanks
Don't remember where it was, but here is a place that sells tile backsplashes applique accents that may work for what you need and other places you may e-mail and ask if they have anything that would work.
One has metal tiles and may have those add-on metal ones that glue on or know who does. Will let you know if I can think of the one that was advertising the glue-on for old tiles:
http://www.beldecal.com/ceramic_decals.cfm
http://www.oldhouseweb.com/stories/Detailed/950.shtml
http://www.artworksbyjulia.com/index.htm
Edited 11/27/2003 11:37:07 AM ET by Ruby
http://doityourself.com/paint/paintceramictile.htm
http://alsnetbiz.com/homeimprovement/painttile.html
http://www.grahampaint.com/tile.htm
hey casey thanks for the sites
paint over tile looks pretty ugly....Why not glue a different surface to it...so many possibilities there.
Be a wall..I mean well
andy
My life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
HEY ANDY,
GIVE ME A FEW SUGGESTIONS IF YOU WOULD. i WANT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TO PRICEY I AM FIXING FOR RESALE. I JUST BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY TO TURN AROUND RATHER QUICKLY. ANYTHING WOULD HELP
JIMI BHAMMERTIME
If you want a quick fix thats inexpensive and don't want to do a ton of work then get wainscott paneling.....about $30 a sheet at the box stores and IMHO I think it looks the best for what "you're" looking for.
BE a wall
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Cant do it, except maybe roof tar, but would stink and look like hell, black- ughhhh
retile it. or new shower unit. you wont be happy after a few years or less. wait a few years ,save and plan.
Victor
HEY DOGBOY, time is something i don't have ,i just purchased this house for quick resale. but i want to make sure and sell a quality product seeing how this is what i plan to do now for my job. don't need that cheapo reputation you know what i mean
jimibHAMMERTIME
Hey Jimi
Sorry , I didnt realize you were going to sell your house . what i always tell my customers in similar problems is get your house appraised deduct a reasonable ammount and put it on the market and see what happens,because the first thing most people will do is tear it out and remodel it. I told a customer last year the exact same thing about there bath room and it sold within 3 wks. besides if the house is in relative good shape and has a decent enough location it will sell. and some of the other letters talk about epox paint go for it what have you got to lose,a little money.
good luck Dogboy
Go though, but I would approach a little different way.
Houses that are on the market and pulled off or on a long time or price reductions get a bad reputation that there is "something" wrong with them.
Now the market will vary drastically from area to area. But just as much, or even more so, in different neighborhoods and prices ranges.
I would discuss this will a couple of real estate agents that really work that area and in that price range.
I believe that he said that this was a starter home. That means that they will be upto their eyeballs in debt just purchasing it and won't be able to do much more than buy curtains for the first couple of years.
anything priced right sells within three months or so.....after that you better quickly lower the price or pull it off the market.
Actually lower the price after a month but I know how stubborn sellers get so....its their call.....but quit askin' my wife to do open houses every other weekend...lol
BE well
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Actually you can paint them with two part epoxy paint. I used to paint the insides of water coolers , and holding tanks . But , Im like Andy , its not very pretty.
Tim Mooney
jimi, It can be done, will last and does look presentable. A job a number of years ago did what Tim suggests, epoxy paint. I had occasion to visit there 10 years later, still looks good. Matte white finish, beats the heck out of that puke pink that was there before. You know it's paint, so the look of real tile is not there, but it certainly was way cheaper than gutting the entire bathroom to change the color. It has lasted, tho I'm sure not abused. The tub was not done, nor was the floor. Tile around the walls of the whole room. Prepwork is important and ventilation a must.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Would it help at all to sandblast the tile with a fine, very hard abrasive, like 120 grit silicon carbide? Just enough to give it some tooth for the paint to adhere to.
thanks alot calvin, this is for resale and i don't particuliary like that 1958 green, i will look into epoxy paint.
thanks again
jimibHAMMERTIME
Painting over ceramic tile is one of the most rediculous remodelling concepts I've ever heard.
Why make such a poor remodelling choice?
Do it right.
Good Luck. rg
hey ricky, thanks for your opinion, but thats not what i asked for. you know opinions are like a--holes every one has one and they all stink.......so if what i was asking seems below you it would be best not to reply at all. unless to say that the best alternative would be to tear out and resurface, i have probably seen more fine carpentry in my 23 years than you will ever see, and a carpenter is what i profess to be and a damn good one. so i thought that maybe i would get some responce from people in the appropriate field. again ricky thanks for your time and opinion but if you could be so kind i would perfer not to hear your opinion. to all of you out there that have been so helpful and some said the same thing you did ricky but with much more swagger.
thanks jimib HAMMERTIME
JimiB,
No need to get your undies in a bunch. No need to incur the word a- h o l e.
I have completed several hundred bath and kitchen tile jobs the right way, and can tell you, from experience, that painted ceramic tile looks like c r a p. I have demoed it though, much to the pleasure of a homeowner that inherited it from an otherwise inspired previous owner.
Have you considered the moisture in a bathroom, and the peeling that will eventually happen to your ceramic tiles? It will happen, and if you are not planning to retile the whole room in a year or two, that will be the only fix, so why not do it right the first time?
I would never attack anyone on this forum. I AM offering an experienced opinion to your question, which I believe you were seeking by asking the question here.
Perhaps if you are not willing to accept divergent opinions you shouldn't ask a question that would draw so many potentially opposing viewpoints.
Good Luck. rg
ALSO, you have stated within this thread that you don't need a cheap reputation, but you just want a cheap fix to turn the property around quickly. ?????????
Your tag line also says, "Quality doesn't cost, it pays". So which is it?
rg
you know ricky tearing it out may be the only way to do this job correctly. i don't know thats why i posted here. i guess it was more the way you presented your opinion then the opinion itself. no my panties are not in a bunch. and you know there is always more than one way to do things.
this house is not in the upscale homes section but is meant to be a starter home for some one. and no it is not my intention to deceive or give some one a less than adequate product but to keep this house affordable for whom it is intended i have to be frugal. just trying to find ways to spare the cost for the buyer.
thanks jimib
HAMMERTIME
ricky you tell me which is better quality a one peice fiberglass shower or a ceramic shower. the only problem with the tile is the 1958 avacodo color, the tile seems to be in great shape. so that is why i ask this question. if the tile was at all suspect i would tear it out in a second.
jimib HAMMERTIME
I believe that there are times when you have to decide to fix it the "right" way or just leave it.
If the new homeowner wants a new bath bad enough, they can negotiate a discount in the purchase price, and then they can deal with it.
If I needed to dig into more than half the wall area to just fix it up, I would do all the walls on an old wetset job. Besides, matching the new tile up will take as much time and effort as demoing and new.
There are manufacturers of old style repro ceramic tile. You can send them a sample of the old, and many dollars later, the custom glazed beauties can be patched into the old.
rg
Why don't you put it on the market as is and see if the buyers have trouble with the tiles at all? Walking a few buyers thru will tell you in a hurry what people like or not in the whole house and the tiles may be the least of your worries.
You may come across some buyers that may even like it, who knows...
If you're going to turn around and sell the place, then whose taste do you need to appease in your choice to get rid of something someone else might like. If it were me, I'm opt to paint walls and trim a complimentary color/colors, clean the place up well, and call it good. Why kill yourself over an aesthetic question that can be approached more than one way?
you may have hit the nail on the head ...decorate around this color problem. but there is a lot of tile in these bathrooms, but it will probably be best to leave as is.
thanks,
HAMMERTIME