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Partition wall and finished ceiling

gcg | Posted in General Discussion on January 5, 2011 11:50am

Hi all and Happy New Year,

In a few weeks I’m going to add a partition wall to a strange space in the MB of our new house to make a walk in closet.  There is oak flooring in the space and a finished ceiling above.  I’m wonder if I need to cut out the drywall on the ceiling for the partition wall top plate or if I can just go over it?  I figured it was fine to go over the hardwood floor but I’m removing the flooring where the wall is going anyway because I need to fill in some gaps with it elsewhere.

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  1. calvin | Jan 05, 2011 12:22pm | #1

    If you have access above, you should install blocking between the joists - give you something to anchor your wall to.

    If not, you could use toggle anchors and glue (or no glue) to anchor the plate.  I usually mount the plates then build the wall-toenailing the studs.  To build it all and set it up, you need to have room to tip it into position-usually accomplished by installing a single plate either on the floor or ceiling, then build your wall and stand it up and lift on top of the floor plate or slip under the ceiling plate, plumb and fasten

    .Best of luck.

    ps  Same goes for the stud at the wall.  Either toggle or spot glue the wall stud to the sheetrocked existing wall.  If you're taping the new wall to old-a solid connection there will keep a crack from appearing later.

    1. gcg | Jan 05, 2011 12:52pm | #2

      got it

      Thanks.  The wall will be perpendicular to the ceiling joists so I shouldn't have a problem screwing into that.  Good point on the stud wall connection; I han't thought that far yet.  I'll toogle and glue it.  I think I'll go with a double top plate so I can build it first and then stand it up.

      1. calvin | Jan 05, 2011 01:54pm | #3

        g, take a look at the SnapToggle below

        http://www.toggler.com/

        This allows you to mark, drill, insert toggle bolt (which stays put) then fasten.  You won't have to putz around trying to hold the bolt out while you try to tighten it down against the wings.  Way easier.

        1. Scott | Jan 05, 2011 02:26pm | #4

          >>>toggler

          Most cool. I've

          >>>toggler

          Most cool. I've seen the other products, but not the bolts. Those look handy for all kinds of things.

          1. calvin | Jan 05, 2011 03:25pm | #5

            Scott

            I still have some 1/4 / 20's I got from Hilti (100/box) that I carry.  At the time I discovered these I think only Hilti had 'em.  They are the ticket-if for no other reason than you don't have to struggle sticking in several of the old style, getting them to grab etc.  That they stay put and you can remove, replace the pc you're mounting is the added frosting.  I see now they can be had in smaller sizes in blister pacs of just a few.  Hilti still carries them bulk.

            Did you see the plumb brandy picture I posted in that other thread (whatever it was)?

          2. Scott | Jan 05, 2011 03:49pm | #6

            >>>Did you see the plumb

            >>>Did you see the plumb brandy picture I posted in that other thread (whatever it was)?

            Missed that. Did you bolt a massive jug of brandy to a wall?

          3. calvin | Jan 05, 2011 03:55pm | #7

            lessee if I can find it again.........

            Here you go.

          4. Scott | Jan 05, 2011 03:58pm | #8

            Aw shucks....THAT kind of Plum(b).

          5. calvin | Jan 05, 2011 05:44pm | #9

            yessir~

            A local yard closed up and I asked about "stuff".

            Well, after they showed me the usual pencil, pad and nail rack, they dragged out Brandy.

            I couldn't pass it up.

            Now I think there's a less clad version, whose name escapes me now...............

            but just as accurate for sure.

            edit:  Plumb Barbara.............no picture available.

            and, anotomically correct.

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