I’m going to replace the old Peal & Stick linoleum floor with new Peal & Stick.
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Any advice for removing the old floor, prepping the sub floor or installation techniques you’d like to share?
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Are there any flooring brands I should stay away from?
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Thanks!
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Trev
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Stay away from peel & stick. Once you get the old stuff up, go ahead and use regular vinyl floor adhesive. It's actually quite easy, and gives better results than p&s.
I'm sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.
We call it peelnstickncurlup!
I doubt you will have much trouble getting the old off except in high traffic areas. We use adhesive to stick peelnstick down with, though, so mayb3e you are tearing up some that I put down once upon a time. Then you are in trouble!
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peeling it up ... I use a still putty knife and a hammer to tap it along.
a propane torch is handy to soften them up.
sometimes a coat of floor fill ... Dependable brand ... is enough to level.
Sometimes a layer of 1/4 ply is the easiest.
I've laid miles of Armstrong tiles ... the pricier, the better. Compare them in store ... get the "thickest" they make. Tiles with a contracting "edge border" help hide the seams .... they disappear compared to a single colored tile.
Again .. sometimes a little heat from the propane torch helps make them more pliable and sticky. A clean/new surface helps the most. Me ... I won't lay over anything other than nice new ply.
Lay them tight/tight/tight to each other. The sign of a good day is black and blue finger tips.
Most of mine were laid in rental units ... kitchens/baths/entry's .... most over 10 years ago ... and most are still there and look good. Full sheet good flooring in theory is better. But 12x12 stick downs are a good product if the installation is done well.
The owner of all those rental units found one pattern he liked ... so that's what go installed. I'd rather have a higher end 12x12 than a low end full sheet.
Jeff
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this is the idea of the edge border
Great. Thanks for all the info.
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Depending on the condition of the sub floor I may put some ¼” Luan down, just so I can start with a nice flat base.
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Do you recommend using an adhesive for putting the tiles down? It seems to be the opinion of most people that the tiles don’t stick well, or are prone to curl up with out additional adhesive.
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Trev
Id agree with Buck.
Ive laid tons as well. The adhesive is better on the more expensive tiles, but I did a few floors with $.65 tile for people without a lot of money... and I think maybe one or two tiles moved... after investigating it was a chair leg that pushed on a tile that was shorter than the floor space because it was buried under the heating baseboard. I think the heat may have also softened the glue.
I wouldnt support the idea of having to do call backs, but adhesive on one tile is a time saver compared to adhesive on the whole place.
Its a design question as well. Ive liked some of the stick patterns better than sheet.
Id recommend the brush on adhesive prep. It looks like milk and Ive always used it. Maybe thats why Ive had good results. It comes in gallons in the vinyl area at the store.
Also, goo gone or something works good for the adhesive spots that you will find.(finger marks), just use sparingly not to get it in the cracks.
-zen
I've sealed floors withthat same bonding agent for ceramic tiles to increase bonding and to block transmission of moisture into the plywood. It does leave it tacky for afew days, so I can see where it would overcome problems with peel n stick. I didn't know they made a vesion for thesse.Jeff - I have laid those tiles in that picture!
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like the other guys said ...
the floor prep latex is better than troweling adhesive and setting pre-glued tiles.
Jeff
Depends on the quality of the home and neighborhood, but I might be tempted to lay new underlayment directly on top of the old stuff. Then you can put the new flooring on top of that.
In many cases, placing new underlayment is much easier than removing the old flooring.
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