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Pocket door hardware for a slim door

zsmitty7 | Posted in General Discussion on December 4, 2011 09:54am

I’m trying to reuse an old 4 panel pine door as a pocket door in my bathroom remodel but I’m having trouble finding a locking door handle set for my 1 1/8″ thick door. Everything I’ve found needs a minimum thickness of 1 3/8″.  Any suggestions to where I can find something that works?

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  1. calvin | Dec 05, 2011 06:19am | #1

    z

    have you contacted JohnsonHardware? 

    Ives/Schlage or Baldwin?

  2. DanH | Dec 05, 2011 07:20am | #2

    And look at latch sets for sliding patio screen doors.

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    xxPaulCPxx | Dec 05, 2011 02:54pm | #3

    Use a coffin lock, and mount a handle on the inside only.  The opposite side can be just a hex headed bolt top, in case you need to open the door in an emergency.

    1. calvin | Dec 05, 2011 06:45pm | #4

      Coffin Lock?

      not sure what that is, but remember (and DanH too) that with a pocket door, any locking mechanism needs to be flush with the face of the door, work as a pull and look good.

      1. DanH | Dec 05, 2011 07:32pm | #5

        It's gotta look good too??

        Note that the lock and pull need not be one and the same.

        The "coffin lock" is a blind panel connector used mostly in theatrical sets.  Basically this is what you need, except that most coffin locks work with a separate hex key -- kind of inconvenient, and probably a little intimidating.  However, there may be some that operate with a folding thumb nut, or you could perhaps improvise your own folding key with a hex shaft.

        1. calvin | Dec 05, 2011 07:59pm | #6

          Dan

          Looks like it's meant to be surface mounted, curved face would make it a marginal mortise.  Then there's the key.....

          Why re-invent a thing-look harder till someone says nope-there's no such thing as a lockset for an inch and and eighth pocket door.

          Then, get creative.

          Still don't know if he exhausted his search with Johnson, a good supplier of pocket hardware.  If I'd think of it and sat down on the phone, I'd call Johnson myself and ask.

          And sure, there's edge pulls for pockets, usually part of the lockset-something has to get it out of the flush jambs or stops, but a cup or something else is needed to final close it.

          1. DanH | Dec 05, 2011 08:11pm | #7

            They're intended to be installed blind, either mortised or installed behind thin plywood.

          2. calvin | Dec 05, 2011 08:30pm | #8

            The evidently the picture is of the surfaced mounted variety....

            As the face edge is rolled and the screw holes recessed.

            But again, why invent something-order something that might not work, or jury rig something when all avenues of applicable hardware have maybe not been exhausted?

            why?

          3. DanH | Dec 05, 2011 09:18pm | #9

            If you look closely at the pictrure you'll see that the unit has half-round edges, to fit nicely into a drilled mortise.

            (And I can't figure out how you'd call those screw holes "recessed".)

          4. calvin | Dec 05, 2011 10:49pm | #10

            I see.......

            the half round edges, on the face of it-top and bottom, how's that get to the bottom of the case?

            I also see two holes, one on the face of the case, the other down inside.

            So, I guess I cannot see what you see.

          5. DanH | Dec 05, 2011 11:28pm | #11

            If you look at the right edge of the left-hand piece you can see the curve goes all the way around to the back -- a 180-degree curve -- perfect for a drilled mortise.  The holes go all the way through.

  4. k1c | Dec 10, 2011 01:17pm | #12

    pocket door

    2 ideas:

    1. 24" opening is acceptable for a bathroom.  If your door is wider, some of it can be left sticking out, making the hex door knob possible.

    2.  Build out the door.  Attaching 1/8"  veneer  to both sides of the hardware area would make it 1 3/8" door.  Veneer can be cut to make the area more decorative.  Felt pads on the jamb also serves as a track.

  5. JimB | Dec 10, 2011 02:52pm | #13

    Check this out

    I had to read the description and watch the video.  It's not the typical pocket door latch.

    http://www.thehardwarehut.com/catalog-product-specs.php?p_ref=8893

    1. calvin | Dec 10, 2011 03:02pm | #14

      Nicely done

      eventho smitty doesn't seem to be able to find his way back.............

      Here's a slightly corrected link which goes to the product overview where the operation is explained.

      http://www.thehardwarehut.com/catalog-product.php?p_ref=8893

      Thanks for the link !

  6. JimB | Dec 10, 2011 05:33pm | #15

    Thanks.

    One of the great things about this forum is that even when the OP doesn't stick around, it often leads to learning something you didn't know you wanted to know.

    I'll probably return to the Hardware Hut for something in the future.

    1. calvin | Dec 10, 2011 05:52pm | #16

      Amen

      The downside to all the information you can glean from these places is that after all these years of trying to learn..............

      and I think I'm right on this.

      There's only so much room in a human brain.  Now that's eerily similar to a hard drive that has no more room.  You have to delete something to absorb something else.

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