Any thoughts on pre-mixed thinset? I’ve always used the traditional dry, mix it yourself type, but was wondering if the Pre Mix is any good. Application will be for a kitchen floor.
Also planning on using the Hardibacker for the first time. Looks like a good product.
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I've never used it ... have heard nothing but bad about it.
check out the John Bridge site for good tile info ... may have been discussed there recently. Personally I never figured out why mixing the stuff with water was so hard?
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I saw an excellent use for pre-mixed thinset just this week. I kid you not!
I was in HD looking for some grout caulk, and I saw the section of the shelf where it was located. But there was a nother guy there right in front of the tubes, which were on a slightly high second shelf ... like 5-1/2' high. Below that were many, many buckets of pre-mixed thinset. (Sidebar ... I think it might even have been thinset-grout combo.)
Anyway, as I'm waiting politely for him to clear the area, he grabs a bucket of the goo, and I thought ... wow, there's a guy actually buying a bucket of that stuff. And a big bucket, too. Nope. He set the bucket on the floor and stepped up on it to reach the tubes!
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Pre-mix is no good.
Continue to mix your own.
hardibacker's great. don't get sucked into the score and snap trap. just put an old blade in your circ saw and cut upwind. oh, and don't think you need 1/2" on floors. 1/4" on floors and 1/2" on walls. it's not structural, if you think you need less floor deflection, do it structurally.
no premix.
(i don't know if i'll get yelled at, but i don't use those hardie screws. i use my roofing gun and bang it down in 1/4 time. haven't had any callbacks. those screws are a manufacturer ploy, imo, and always project beyond the surface, messing up the flushness of adjoining tiles.)
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I'll not argue with you about using nails to fasten the hardiebacker, but I do disagree with your reason ...
and always project beyond the surface
I have never had that problem. I use my Makita impact driver, and the little nubs under the head of the screw make them self-countersinmking.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
those screws are a manufacturer ploy, imo, and always project beyond the surface, messing up the flushness of adjoining tiles.)>>>>>.
No ploy at all. those screws are expensive for a reason. They work! I've used them for many years on Wonderboard and all CBU's.You seem to be in a hurry.
ie: using a gun to install CBU.
I think thats your problem. Some things you should take your time with, no offensive intended at all. I KNOW when I use the proper screws its done to perfection. No reason to even think about callbacks for that issue.
I don't like using roofers not to say I've never done it that way. It just makes me feel uncomfortable that a nail doesn't have the same holding power as a course screw. With a screw I can ease it in or out if I need to adjust an area. Not so with a nail.
Use the screws but take your time with it and you can go in as far as you want.
Also, after the first dozen screws I can still make really good time except for taking the time to pull metal splinters out of my finger...lol. Its the thorn on a rose IMO.
anyway...thats just me.
Be well
andy
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When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
The thinset gives the holding power. Once it is dry, the screw does nothing.
good point. I never thought of that.The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
i did. then i use up all that time i saved on the tile ;-).--------"the test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. one should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless and yet be determined to make them otherwise."- f. scott fitzgerald
In all honesty...I rarely use CBU on floors. I mostly use mud and CBU's on walls. Probably has something to do with my teacher years ago. He was an old guy back then that a I did a lot of tiling with in my early twenties....he's probably dead by now. I don't seem to even remember there being CBU's...certainly no HD's...LOL.
I just slap down (level under a few small piles a mud) some 1x3's and dump a wheel barrow full of mud tween' em and float right over them on top of some wire lath.The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.