This deck was a little out of plumb.
We tore it down and rebuilt a little larger.
25 degrees here today. Brrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Do you guys ever take off till the weather warms up? I’m having a tuff time getting the frozen boards to separate.
“Rather be a hammer than a nail”
Bob
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there ya go again...
1st rate...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Thanks Imerc..........and for the link to the guy needing help with Trex..........How do you do that?............I'm such a hit and miss lurker on this site......thanks for your help"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
what ever it takes to keep ya here once ya decide to show up...
some of get to wonderin' if yer still breathin' at times...
yur still the man when it comes ta decks..
right click thread title...
copy and paste where ya wanna put it...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
As usual, beautiful
thanks for sharing
Nice!
What did they do about a retaining wall underneath?
Or does more of the deck cover that?
There will be pavers at ground level for the patio. The decking will be Trex and the fascia will be 5/4 X 8 TK cedar drilled for step lights with a 1/4" eased beveled edge to eliminate scuffing.
I'll send more picture when things thaw out a bit around here........."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Nice work as always! But 25 is not Cold. 7f here right now yesterdays high was 8F!
WAY COOL..or cold is it? LOLWhat a difference..I bet they are really pleased, I would be.Great work.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I'll just do it>
It's a damp cold...............it chills you to the bone............Nails freeze to your fingers...........ya can't let go of the skill saw...........ya can't bend over because you have too many articles of clothing on to keep your body warm.........the air hose is so stiff you think it is going to break.............speaking of break............your coffee gets cold in 60 seconds..............I better go home and make sure the pipes aren't froze "Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Do you get many callbacks on decks constructed in cold weather?jt8
LOL..........They call me back all the time............"Hey Bob you workin today?"
Sorry, too cold.............:-)"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
heyy hang in there...
flex eel will fix the stiff air line problem...
drink the coffee a bit faster...
now get back ta work....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Lookin good. Show us a done pic when you get there. Matt
Next weekfor pictures......I took this week off.........well sort of ........my honey do list was pretty long.............."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
he's spoiled....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
It's not the cold that gets to you, it's the temperature changes: it was 66ºF today, it's going down to 14ºF over-night, and the high tomorrow will be 21ºF. With the wind-chill that'll feel like close to zero; with the memory of today's warmth, it'll seem more like minus 20..
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
It's not the cold that gets to you, it's the temperature changes: it was 66ºF today, it's going down to 14ºF over-night, and the high tomorrow will be 21ºF. With the wind-chill that'll feel like close to zero; with the memory of today's warmth, it'll seem more like minus 20.
Phill, that's about what we've got going on down here. Two days ago it was in the 60's. Tonight it is supposed to get down to the single digits with -10to-20 wind chill.
jt8
That new deck is REALLY nice. I wish I had that sort of talent.
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That's a nice looking redo, frost and all.
Guess that pic was taken at about noon?
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I was having a Geritol moment... opened the first one and though, "geeze, that doesn't look like Pro-dek's work." AAAAAAhhhh, that was the "before" picture. It all made sense when I opened the second one.
I was kinda surprised the HO didn't want the two decks merged into one.
Attached is a smaller version of the 'before'.
Even partway done, that new deck looks outstanding. Be sure to give us a couple pics of it when its done.
Edited 1/5/2005 4:44 pm ET by JohnT8
Hey Bob,
So you got a CD burner? Care to throw a bunch of your pics on a disc and send them our way for our breaktime slideshow we are putting together? Your work is always great to look at and the pics are always top notch as well, would love to have a few (or more) in the show. if you have not see it check out the thread "calling all breaktimers". Thanks Mark
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Even if you have to send IT guys out to get them, any Fine Homebuilding slide show is incomplete without Pro-Dek and Stan Foster shots....that's not a mistake, it's rustic
You're too kind Bungalow. Thanks for the compliments.........I envy Stan, all snug as a bug in his nice warm shop................."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
somebody needs yur help..
http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=52264.1
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Mark I would be happy to burn a cd of these for you but I don't think they are pixels you want. I normally shoot 480x640 web ready shots like the ones posted here. will they work? If so I'll burn and ship to you............"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Nice work as usual.
It was 25° here in Port Orchard too and man my big toe isn't thawed yet :-) Think we'll get snow this weekend?
SNOW is inevitable...............I think I'll go help Stan build stairs in his nice warm shop.........:-)
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Bob: Your the best.....good to see some of your work again...Stan
Thanks Stan.................U need any help? I'd like to hang out in your nice warm shop today..................;-)"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Thanks Stan.................U need any help? I'd like to hang out in your nice warm shop today
Pro-Dek, I guess you could always take a page out of Stan's book. Go to the jobsite, put in your posts, take your measurements...... and then go back to the shop and fabricate the deck. Then haul it (assembled) to the jobsite and attach it to the posts.
Although some of the decks you've posted wouldn't fit on a regular sized trailer..maybe make them into two pre-fabricated sections.
jt8
LOL- There ya go.......Prefab sectionalized decks.........just bolt them together.
I better get back to the drawing board.....new market opportunity.........:-)"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
LOL- There ya go.......Prefab sectionalized decks.........just bolt them together.
I better get back to the drawing board.....new market opportunity.........:-)
Hmm.. 5th wheel trailer could hold a pretty good piece of deck. Then just fork the pieces into place and lagbolt them together. :)
You could have a crew back at the shop that prefabs the decks and then a second crew putting them in place. I suppose crew #2 could be the ones putting the posts in too.
Just think of the "wow" factor for the HO's. They leave in the morning and the crew is just digging some holes. HO gets home that evening and there's a deck in place!
Just think how fast crew#1 could assemble decks in the climate contolled shop. And you could have heavier tools in the shop... really speed things up.
:)
And by the by, where's our new pics? You don't expect us to go a whole week with 2 pics, do you?
jt8
Edited 1/7/2005 2:33 pm ET by JohnT8
just glad it finally got above zero here in northern cheeseland.
i dream of the days when its 25 degrees!
I think that's what HD does for their decks.
Jon Blakemore
I think that's what HD does for their decks.
HD efficiency with Pro-Dek craftsmanship. What more could you ask for?jt8
It's probably the other way around with HD (not to insult Pro-dek's efficiency). I remember calculating their ft² prices are from $30 to $40. At least they should be making good money on them.
Jon Blakemore
Here is some finished shots of the decks.............
This shows all three decks from a distance
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Bob: As always...pleasing to the eye....nice job once again.
Stan
seriously now...
why would ya wanna go build stairs fer anyways???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
This shows how we run the decking a different direction on different elevations so your eye can easily see the transitions..........
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Ahh ha. Another idea to steal. Thanks. That is some beutiful work,Who Dares Wins.
Thanks Gunner,
What have you been building lately?"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Not much just the usual. Saw through a bank wall, plant an ATM, patch a little drywall.
We are getting ready to do a major remodel on the house and yard though. And we're probably gonna do a ground level deck. So your post came along at a good time.Who Dares Wins.
I have GOT to get down there to that new "cabin" by the falls, with my camera.Kinda been afraid to do so, because I might look like I was up to no good. (Probably a good situation for someone with a professional ad for decks, clearly apparent on the side of their truck. LOL)They put on TWO decks. ;)Attachment method... Just nail a 2x4 up against the outside of the wall. Right over the siding.Build method... Put another 2x4 on posts for the outside ledger, and then TOENAIL 2x4 "joists" in between them. (No hangers. No nails driven into the ends of the 2x4's even. Just toenails. And not many of those. Just enough to split the 2x4 out...)Hey, the guy now wants these decks to run down the other side of the building as well.No problem, just keep nailing on 2x4's. Naw, no reason to make anything match. No reason why that there "beam" should have to be one continuous piece either....Aaaaaaaargghhhhh !!!The thing is going to fall if three people so much as look at it at the same time.
The person you offend today, may have been your best friend tomorrow
Sounds scarey to me Luka.............Don't they have to get a deck inspected out where you live?............or is this one of those "can't see it from my house" contractors working under the table?
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Yes, they do have to be inspected.I think.They do, at least have to pass code.The legal and permitted ones.But.....This "structure" is actually a "storage shed".200sq ft. Officially.But more like 350, because it also has an illegal "upstairs".Being a "shed", it doesn't have to be permitted. I suppose that is how they get past the code.I talked to the guys building it. In the talking, I told them about you guys coming out and building me two sheds. (Man, the ones you guys built are like fortresses compared to that piece of crap...)They gave me a brochure. And then eagerly wanted me to give them an advertising plug at BT...Yeah.... Right.
The person you offend today, may have been your best friend tomorrow
Upper and lower decks Finished...........
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Beautiful work.
I wonder why they did'nt take this opportunity to build a much larger second floor deck over a larger first floor deck.
I would have wanted at least room enough to put a couple of chairs and a small table on each of these.
why they did'nt take this opportunity to build a much larger second floor deck over a larger first floor deck.
Money mainly.............The original plan attached the two decks. it was more than they could spend. This deck was $27,000.
The upper deck is 6'X10' which still gives them a little more room than they had before."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Very nice, as always. jt8
Hey Bob, I don't remember seeing any pics from you lately. You on vacation or something?
jt8
It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb
John,
I've been laid up with two broken ribs after falling off of a third story deck. The last few decks have just been resurfacing with Trex. Hardy worth posting ........
I'm out of commision for about 12 weeks
Thanks for missing me
"I'll be bauck!""Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
I've been laid up with two broken ribs after falling off of a third story deck. The last few decks have just been resurfacing with Trex. Hardy worth posting ........
I'm out of commision for about 12 weeks
That's right, I remember reading that thread.
http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=56655.1
I would suggest you could sit in a lawn chair and 'supervise', but I doubt you'd be able to stay in the chair, so you're better off staying home or doing the paperwork at the office. ;)
You'll be back at it before you know it. Better a cracked rib than a damaged back. Be looking forward to your pics starting up again mid-summer or so :)
jt8
It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb
Edited 5/11/2005 12:54 pm ET by JohnT8
Every time I set an extension ladder, I lay two bundles of shingles at the feet. I have about 10 bundles at the house that I bought cheap and duct taped the hell out of the packaging because my old partner had one kick out on him. I know it's another tool to keep on hand bud that 150 lbs. makes a difference. I've been fortunate, the only time I had one go, I rode it down until about 5' and jumped off. I know the pain of broken ribs, I broke two three days before my wedding, made for a comfy honeymoon. Bob, I hope you bounce back soon, I'm missing your posts.
Dustin
It's funny but I was going to post a "where's Pro-Deck" question as well. I really miss your work. I hope you come back stronger and better than ever.
Cheers!
You'd think he could send the Pro-Dek jr.'s out to do some work and take some pics. :)
jt8
It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb
You'd think he could send the Pro-Dek jr.'s out to do some work and take some pics. :)
Actually John, I've given 12 deck jobs to another deck company because one of my sons has a great union carp job that pays him $35 per hour + benny's.....
The other son is licensed and has plenty to do to keep himself busy....
The other deck company keeps promising me a referral check but I've yet to see one of those.........
It's a shame people can't do what they say they'll do.
Take care..........."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
25 degrees??!? ...Just when you thought it was safe to pack up the flip flops!
It was easly -25 here today in MN.
Nice loking deck BTW.
It's amazing what a new paint job will do...
Separate?
As in separate from one another in the pile?
Our problem is getting them to go back togerther again! the nails and screws don't want in or stay in as wel when the PT lumber is so hard with ice that it is like screwing a block of ice. Lat one happened Christmas weeek whil i was gone, the weather was aroumnd ten degrees . They did overkill on the hangers and toenails and for the decking, they just screwed every third one to get it down in place. We'll go back and finish off screwing it when things warm enough to thaw the wood fibres.
BTW, how deep is frost level there?
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We only have an 8" frost level here Piffin. I think it is about 24" in Eastern Washington."Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Nice work there. Good design balance
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Nice deck Bob.
But having framed at temps 50 degrees colder than what you're complaining about, I'm not inclined toward sympathy (I'll admit that's a lot easier to say now that I'm behind a desk <G>). Weather, like life, is all about perspective.
Andy
Andy Engel
Senior editor, Fine Woodworking magazine
Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more lasting value. --Robert M. Pirsig
Not lookin for sympathy Andy..............just wondering how you keep the water hot so you can get a frozen Hitachi nail gun free from your hand?????????
:-) "Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
Well, now I was kidding about the sympathy thing. Twenty five can kill you, so that's cold. Twenty five is plenty cold, especially when you're used to 40. Heck, 40 is cold when you're used to 70. OK, hot water, we go to the diner for. The rest of it is layer after layer, and a teaspsoon of antifreeze in the compressor. IronClad SubZero gloves are money well spent.Andy Engel
Senior editor, Fine Woodworking magazine
Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more lasting value. --Robert M. Pirsig
but what ever happened to yur squeaky floors at yur house???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
LOL- I sold the house and gave the squeaky floors to the new home owner.......no charge.............:-)
I saved the hyperlinks and will still get to try them out on the squeaky floors in my new house.................
I'll let you know how it works...........
Memory like an elephant..................have you............
Yoda"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob
at one time we agreed that a success story or word back on a question would be nice...
even asked you how the floor thing came out back then...
but I have CRS to the max.. That's my story and I'm sticking to it...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!