Is there a good multi-purpose nailer that can be used for both framing and drywall? Or do most people get 2 different types of nailers.
Thanks,
john
Is there a good multi-purpose nailer that can be used for both framing and drywall? Or do most people get 2 different types of nailers.
Thanks,
john
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are you talking about a pneumatic nailer?? Never seen one used on drywall......
If you aren't one of the one's I'm talking about,you shouldn't have any complaints....
Just saw this.http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00023SDE0/qid=1112137305/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_etk-tools/002-4062753-3034406?v=glance&s=hi&n=228013Senco also.
http://www.senco.com/con_rem/ViewTool.aspx?toolid=17Joe Carola
Edited 3/29/2005 6:10 pm ET by Framer
I think that's more for exterior drywall installation. And Steel stud work.
Exterior drywall installation?Joe Carola
Yea. Mostly commercial but also residential.Densglas, etc.and soffit board etc.
Exterior sheathing of the type seen over steel-studded walls, like on the front facade wall of a new Lowe's or Depot. Fiber-reinforced gypsum board.
That sheathing is often the substrate for an EIFS job. Parex, Sto, or the like.
Framer, we have to use 5/8" gyp sheathing on any exterior wall we build here in Chicago, even residential. Seems the city is a little paranoid about fire- still a little uptight over that problem they had back in the 1870's.We usually just use roofing guns to nail the gyp when going over wood studs.
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Thanks Joe...had never heard of such a thing......definitely had never seen one used on either residential or commercial...guess I learned something new today...If you aren't one of the one's I'm talking about,you shouldn't have any complaints....
Hammer?
??????drywall?????
I know most people use hammers but they have drywall nailers right? like this one:
http://www.ovisonline.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=650003NI have never used a nail gun so I don't know much about them yet, but can the same nailer be used for both drywall and other things like framing? Can they be adjusted or would 2 different types of nailers be required?Is this really that stupid of a question? Hanging drywall on ceilings sounds much easier with a gun to me, if its possible.John
It's not a stupid question.....there's a big difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is just not being familiar with a given situation, stupidity is doing the same wrong thing more than once. It's a question that warrants more of an answer...I have never heard of using a pneumatic nailer for drywall, but it could be used in certain parts of the country that I'm not aware of. You have to be real careful on depth settings, etc, so in light of that I'd recommend not using one. Use a good old fashioned hammer on the ceilings with dead men or drywall lifts and the nailing won't be near as bad.....get a couple buddies to help out and unless you're doing long sheets of 5/8 fire rock you should have no problems.....save the money and buy a gun for framing, etc, but don't use it on drywall....If you aren't one of the one's I'm talking about,you shouldn't have any complaints....
Ok that makes sense. I saw them being advertised and assumed they could be used for interior drywall. I figured maybe a new tool was out that I didn't know about, but if the general consensus is they won't work for that then I'll stay away from them.Thanks for the information,John
no prob...glad I could help......BTW..Nobody on here is going to criticize you for asking questions along that line...you'll never know until you ask...If you aren't one of the one's I'm talking about,you shouldn't have any complaints....
there was a thread in here reecently where a couple people commented negatively on the senco drywall nailers. As far as framers go, hitatchi is usually the preferred brand but lots of folks like the senco guns, and the paslode. Most people here will probably tell you to avoid PorterCable and dewalt
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I guess everyone is getting sidetracked onto pneumatic drywall nailers, and not really addressing your main question.
Pneumatic nailers are fairly specific to given applications, and there are three main categories based on the type of fastener each uses: framing guns, finish nailers, and staplers. Within each category there are generally different sizes -- there are for instance, different finish guns for various thickness and length of the fastener.
There are also various guns for very specific applications (e.g. nailing joist hangers).
Generally, you would not use a framing gun for applying trim where a small head finish nail would be more appropriate.
To answer your specific question, you are not going to find a single gun that you could use for both framing and drywall -- simply because the nails for each are very different.
Hope I haven't confused you even more.............
screw drywall!
Like rtc said, use screws. Most professional hangers use a cordless nailer (hammer) to tack up the sheets and a corded screwgun to fully fasten them. The rule of thumb is only to use nails where they will be covered by tape, bead, or trim. Screws everywhere else. Bill
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Hello Hook ,
Just logged on and saw your around.....How are ya?
Sorry I missed ya last night. Just got home from "helping" some friends get a rental ready for drywall. Good thing it's only a couple blocks from the house. Course, a few liquid refreshments helped when the work was done!!
LaterQuality, Craftsmanship, Detail
Where you not on last night? Was I delerious from fatigue?J/K thought I saw you on when I logged on in the visitors list.Got a break in the weather with the rain to get the streets clean--also gives me a chance to get the bike ready,It is an illness but it is my only relief from carp. -the beauty on a motorcylcle is you can go visit someone and you can't bring tools. Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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Where you not on last night? Was I delerious from fatigue?
Yeah, I was on, but probably delirious from my own fatigue. I did have to make a quick exit to let the barking dog in. I never came back. Sorry, didn't notice your beckon 'til this morning.
We just got a small shower today. I got a small addition roof dried in with just enough time to clean up before it hit. Actually some hail and strong winds.
Been seeing a lot of bikes on the road already. Bet you're just itchin, huh?!Quality, Craftsmanship, Detail
It is always a torture test in the spring about getting the bike out--I want to get out but wait for the rains to clean the streets some and let people (ie other drivers) get use to seeing bike again,Rain started early this morning got maybe an inch or more, winter crap in the gutters blocked the downspout so had to go out and pull the plug. Fun stuff before breakfast......be back later, Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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Can anyone recommend a good screw gun then? I see them from about $100 and up. Craftsman has a cordless for $199. Would cordless be strong enough? I don't do this type of work for a living, but I will be helping to build 3 houses for myself and my family. So for 3 major projects, can someone recommend a high quality drywall screw gun?John
Figure out which gun is best, buy a good used one on Ebay and then sell it when you are through. It will be a lot cheaper than renting one and you have the best tool for the job at hand.
I just dogged out a Milwaukee on 400 sheets of 5/8 fire rock and it never even hiccupped....I like it, lots of life in the old dog from what I see....I think you'd like one of them...If you aren't one of the one's I'm talking about,you shouldn't have any complaints....
I almost fired my helper (22) again for the third time.
He refused to use a trim "hammer" to do the trim.
He wanted to use his 26 oz Estwing....said thats what he was comfortable with.......I told him to get the hell off my job if he didn't listen and learn from me.
I told him that different tools are for different jobs.
Told him I'd pay him right there and then and....see ya.
He listened finally..oiy vey. These kids now a daze.
So my answer to you is to buy a singular gun for each job and do it right.
I could be wrong....its been known to happen : )
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I just noticed this discussion. Here in Japan, they use a nailer for drywall on some projects. The nails are really cheap and it is really fast. Max, Hitachi, Makita, all make the guns here. In my jobs, I don't ever use a drywall nailer though, because the nail heads pop out over time, and the holding power is much less than screws. The nailer can't really be used for anything else. All of the top custom house carpenters here use screw guns for drywall. I don't think they have these types in North America yet, but they are incredible tools...very fast, reliable, etc. Am attaching a picture. If you are investing in your first nailer for framing, I'd get an inexpensive one first, to see how the glove fits kind of thing, then upgrade later if the need arises. For drywall, screw guns (the drill type) are probably the most common and cheapest way.
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