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Replacement Windows in Brick or Framing?

JustThink | Posted in Construction Techniques on May 3, 2013 10:40am

Hey Guys, I have a question regarding replacement windows with brick exterior. This will be my first endevor with windows. I will be removing existing original aluminum and replacing with replacement vinyl.

My original plan was to order based on the brick RO (48″x72″), but was advised to pull the interior trim and measure stud-to-stud (49″x72-3/4″). So ordered windows 1/4″ smaller that the frame rough opening. I realize that now I have to remove and replace the returns and stools.

Am I wrong in thinking that installing the windows against the brick and replacing all the interior trim is ok? Does this plan pose a problem? What things would you guys be concerned with when tackling this project?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Taylor

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  1. calvin | May 04, 2013 04:34pm | #1

    Taylor

    Depends on how you want to have it finish out.

    oiginal windows usually were installed after framing/sheeting but b/4brick.  If the brick returns were done to the frame edge, the ext. opening was usually smaller than the int. framed opening.

    So, some will size smaller and add trim to either the int or ext .

    when I return home tomorrow, I'll post a link here explaining one of the options.

  2. calvin | May 04, 2013 04:34pm | #2

    Taylor

    Depends on how you want to have it finish out.

    oiginal windows usually were installed after framing/sheeting but b/4brick.  If the brick returns were done to the frame edge, the ext. opening was usually smaller than the int. framed opening.

    So, some will size smaller and add trim to either the int or ext .

    when I return home tomorrow, I'll post a link here explaining one of the options.

    1. JustThink | May 04, 2013 05:54pm | #3

      So, some will size smaller and add trim to either the int or ext .

      Thanks for the reply Calvin. Thats what I originally thought. Push them in from the outside.

      Now, I'm going install them from the inside against the brick opening. Just a little unsure if I should be worried about doing it that way. I'll be looking out for your link. Thanks!

      1. calvin | May 05, 2013 08:09am | #4

        Just

        Leaving Nashville this a.m.,  I'll try to not forget when I get home.

      2. calvin | May 05, 2013 07:34pm | #5

        jt

        Here you go.

        http://www.quittintime.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7902/an/0/page/0#Post7902

        In this thread, there's a link to a patio door install in the same place-you might find something there also.

        Almost 10 yrs clouds the memory.  I believe I used mounting clips (screwed to the window/door jamb sides (about every 16")). bent to fit and screwed to the rough opening.

        If I didn't use the clips, I screwed through the jambs behind the finished stops.   Thats for the windows-the door I'm pretty sure was done using the mounting clips.

        I had clad wood windows to work with-you've got vinyl so you fastening is most likely the factory hole and plug.   Shimming and fastening these less rigid windows is mucho important.

  3. calvin | May 06, 2013 08:32pm | #6

    JT

    Concerns?

    Well, in all those I've installed, the brick cuts were pretty much made with a mason's hammer.............not cut by machine-so, they vary in depth and consistancy of cut. 

    To push the window up to them wouldn't have been a good look.

    That, and I would think you'd want to get outside the exterior building envelope, to make weather sealing easier and to put the frame of the window out beyond the inner line of brick.

  4. JustThink | May 06, 2013 09:52pm | #7

    Good Points!

    I may can still change the order. If not I will have to make due.

    I believe I can take my time and be happy with the look. I just hope it is weather tight.

    Calvin, thank you for your input.

    1. calvin | May 07, 2013 06:20am | #8

      Your welcome

      Best of luck with your project.

  5. JustThink | May 07, 2013 05:28pm | #9

    Thanks! It's too late to change the order. I'll work with what I have. I will post the results.

    Taylor

    1. calvin | May 07, 2013 06:54pm | #10

      JT

      Flashing somehow under the window and over the brick or stone sill is real important.

      at the minimum.

      Even if you have to scoot the frame up, if the sizing will allow it.

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    Perry525 | May 08, 2013 01:15pm | #11

    Centre the window in the hole, squirt expanding foam all round to fix and to make airtight fit, stick thin strips of plastic all round, pushing up to brick, seal all round. If the bricks are thick enough drill and screw through frames into bricks, two or three screws per side.

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