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I am looking at a job where the HO ( and my son’s MIL) wants her sliding patio doors replaced. 6’6″ x 7′ 0″
They are only about 15 years old. But they leak alot of air when the wind is blowing out of the south. And the lower door leaks water when it rains hard.
It pretty obvious that the top door is the source of the leak below.
One door opens out on to a deck on the main level and the other door is right below it, coming out of the basement.
The stucco was applied 1st and then the deck was installed. There is no flashing on the rim joist. I am sure that this is a Dri-vit type of installation. Styrofoam, mesh and thincoat.
I could not find a name brand on the doors. I did find a K&K window downstairs (Kolbe & Koble???). If so they are not very common around here. We have mostly Andersen, Pella and Marvin.
I have never done a replacement into stucco and I don’t know what to expect. I have done plenty of swinging and sliding door replacements but not into stucco.
My questions are
1. Where should I make the cut in the stucco to remove the old door and reinstall? In the middle of the trim piece and just get to the flange or should we make the cut at the outside edge of the trim (stucco trim) and then repair from there?
2. How is the stucco colored? Is it painted or is it mixed in the mud?
3. How do I cut this out and not tear the housewrap?
4. Is it going to be hard to get a flashing installed under the housewrap?
5. Is the reapplication of stucco something I need to call in someone else to do? I do cement work(limited) and drywall.
If you have done this before I would appreciate your input.
PS The house has had some moisture isssues on other walls. But I was not part of the solution.
I will post pictures in the next 2 posts.
Rich
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Below are pics of the deck level door.
I copied pic #1609 below.
Rich
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Pictures of the lower level.
I copied #1610 for you below
Thanks
Rich
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Sorry, I've never worked with Dryvit.
With regular stucco I break it out a fair ways off the door opening. Getting flashing under the paper is tricky, but despite my concerns, I haven't seen any major problems from patches I did years ago. We relied on painting the entire wall for color match. Matching integral color is difficult.
Whether any of that applies to you is questionable. I guess that was the world's longest bump, really. bump.
k
KFC
Well thanks for the bump.
This thread is going nowhere.
I guess I will have to learn how to do like I learned everything else. By doing it.
Rich
Yeah, not much response. Maybe the MIL reference scared everyone off. (I know, it's not your MIL, but still). Well, let's bump it back and forth a couple more times, someone'll drop by eventually.
Is Dryvit the same thing as EIFS?
k
KFC
I don't know what Drivit is.
I assume they are both styrofoam, fiberglass mesh and a 1/8" coating of stucco.
That is the most common thing up here on the nes houses. Lots of problems because the installers didn't know what they were doing.
Many of the old stucco houses have wire lath and 1/2" of stucco. Most of them are in pretty good shape.
Rich
Yeah, here in the inner bay area, it's all regular 3-coat stucco. We don't have the weather issues to motivate most folks to use a lot of rigid foam. Shoot, half the houses don't even have insulation in the walls...
I have heard about the issues with EIFS, what I gathered was it was poor attention to detail, like not flashing the ledger you talked about, more than an intrinsic problem with the whole system.
But I have no idea about color matching, flashing details at the foam, etc. I bet you'll figure it out though, it's just more building/problem solving. The basic rules should be the same, I guess. (Water flows downhill, etc.)
good luck. and, you know, bumparoo!
k
KFC
We can get very good color matching with the computer matching at the Sherwin-Williams stores. Take in a small sample an the match will be dead on.
Thanks, going to bed now.
Rich
Yeah, I meant matching the integral color is hard. As the mix cures, the color changes, so you kind of have to guess and factor for that.
If you're just painting it, no prob. You can easily paint that whole wall close enough.
k
hasta la manana